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StarkRavingMad
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Spec: Wafer cards

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purchase trips and restock your wafer supplies at the store.

Why do you need to restock wafer cards? According to another post, they are thinner than normal cards and somewhat see-through. Do they need to be cut or altered in some way?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 4:32 pm

catherwood
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my spec is that you are supposed to hand them out to strangers. Part of the trip is that you go take a walk. Perhaps the fact that you are wearing a bizarre card on a lanyard in public invokes strangers to ask what organization you work for with such an ID badge. Then you take a spare wafer and pass along the experience.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 4:54 pm

dmax
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 6:05 pm

luxandpoe
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Word of Redkore

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"Sorry to bother you, but have you heard the word of redkore?..."

*Looks down and sees that the person saying this to me on the street is wearing a pair of black Nikes as well as a lanyard around their neck* Shocked

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 6:08 pm

dmax
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 6:11 pm

luxandpoe
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Carpe Lanyard

"Wouldn't you like some pudding? No? Some Kool-Aid then?"

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 6:15 pm

MrDoug
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um...

So what's the harm? As long as they don't start passing out Kolaide and Pudding to go with them

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 6:15 pm

luxandpoe
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Harm and foul

No harm at all. I can't speak for anyone else but I was just goofing in this thread. Personally I think some people over at the RK forum took it all too seriously. Rolling Eyes

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 6:53 pm

LittleFish
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wafer cards

Could the wafer cards as has been pointed out be intended to be passed out?
SPEC: Is Red Kore using these early promotions to get people involved before the game really gets underway?
In a few E-mails with Marc it was fairly obvious hes had the ARG community in mind since the beginning of this whole thing.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 6:56 pm

StarkRavingMad
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Re: wafer cards

LittleFish wrote:

Could the wafer cards as has been pointed out be intended to be passed out?

It seems a possibility. See this thread:
http://www.redkore.com/tel_forums/viewtopic.php?t=39

A lot of half answers there, but some of it would add it to the wafers being "passable." Note that the wafers are one of only a few cards with the website address on them. Also, marcc said that some people would want many refills, others might not want any. Finally, he dodged my question about whether you need other people for the "trip," which indicates to me that you probably do.

My current spec is that there is some sort of shape-type puzzle game here, but the real "trip" is discussing it with others and going along for the ride on all the speculation (this is in line with what others have been speculating and what marcc may have confirmed and then edited when jimini posted it).

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 7:43 pm

Nyght_Shyft
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Re: wafer cards

LittleFish wrote:

that's a curious thought, littlefish.

marc did say this...

marc wrote:

believe me, we're very eager to keep this going.

it's just the beginning, and it gets a lot more interesting.

So, i guess things are going to pick up after the first trip? but the way i see it is.. why would you even participate if the cards had you pass them out to other people? i know i wouldn't have any fun in doing that.

Here's a collection of some marc quotes with analysis that might clarify everyone's questions (or just confuse you further, depending...).

So, what is it?

marc wrote:

is what we say it is, namely, a multidimensional transport system.

Doesn't tell us much, but still says a lot in its implications. It's hard to classify something as a multidimensional transport system, but I guess you COULD argue that the internet is some kind of multidimension, and the game might have you "travel" through it.
We DO know that "stage 4," the transport stage, is "engaged" and when done so you access a non-physical dimension.

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when you reach stage 4 of the trip, transport is engaged and you access the associated non-physical dimension.

Which again could point to the internet. The game might very well have you "access" a web page.
The only problem with that theory, however, is when asked "is teleporting gonna use my computer?"

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not directly.
but you'll probably log in to the forums to ask questions, etc.
and the trip guides and other site content may be helpful as you explore your trip.

further� "Do we need a computer in order to experience the trips?"

Quote:

each trip is a self-contained adventure.
all you need: you, the trip package.

So it sounds to me like a computer is NOT a necessity, which throws out the whole website-internet-surf theory.
So, what about the wafer question? why do they sell extra wafers? This seems odd, because ALL they sell are wafers, they don't sell the data or ignition cards. So.. why buy more?

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i'm afraid it's one of those "first-hand experience required" things.

Some people have proposed the "hand out to others" theory, that is, that you will hand the cards to others as part of the experience (it does have the website listed at the bottom). Maybe this is some method of scamming others? I'm not sure, but all I know is that *I* have no intention of ever handing cards out to other people, so I highly doubt that's an integral part of the trip. Plus, that would involve others. We've already determined that you don't need the help of anyone else, so I don't think we can assume that you have to hand them out to other people. He makes a point of saying that the trip is self-contained.

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each trip is an independent, self-contained adventure. however, there are overlaps, for those interested in such thing.

I talked to marc on the phone the other day and he told me that you don't need to visit the website or enlist the help or guidance of anyone else; all you need are the cards. "Is it possible to take the trip using the cards alone?"

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all you need: you, the cards

further� "Is this a journey that you have to take on your own? By the sounds of the info section, it seems like lots of people can participate on the same 'trip.' Would this make travel easier?"

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you can travel by yourself or in a group.
this is explained here and also in this news release.
whether you travel alone or in a group, you first need to reach stage 4 of the trip you're studying, and that's very much a personal adventure.
not to say that others can't help out, but you'll need to do much of the exploring yourself.
group travel isn't harder or easier, just different.

Odd.
So, why even bother buying the product anyhow? Well� "Get your photocopiers ready, everyone!"

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or you could save some time by printing the scans available on other websites.
you might find, however, that the trip doesn't work very well in duplicated formats.

Not sure of the implications of this last one. I wonder why photocopied cards wouldn't work?
Hmm..
So, as for there being anything hidden� "Are the clues hidden somewhere on the site?

Quote:

nothing is hidden unless you want it to be.

cryptic. But I think it implies that there is indeed something secret.
Further� "How important is the interpretation of the info section to unlocking one of these 'trips'?"

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hmm...it's important. basically, just read it a few times, then go for a walk or something. the entire site becomes clearer as you come to understand the system better.

I suspect that there is some kind of game involved. The whole process seems like a game to me, and marc does continually refer to the whole process as an adventure (look back at some of the quotes). Plus�

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there are 18 trips in total, and we'll be releasing them at whatever pace seems appropriate. r1.trip should keep you going for a while...

Marc seems to expect everyone to be tripped up and confused, and they only intend to release new trips as the demand for them rises after the first one.
Some people have questioned whether or not this is some kind of cult or spiritual thing. I certainly hope it isn't, but according to marc..

Quote:

this isn't a cult, etc.

So we're good in that department.
So just what the hell are we dealing with, then?

Quote:

if there are questions i'm not answering, it's because there's no point answering them. i can blabber on all day about how this works, but it doesn't really mean much until you try a trip for yourself. to really understand TELEPORT, you must experience it. discussion is one thing, but it means practically nothing until you experience a trip for yourself.

I don't know about you guys, but I can't wait to start mine.

-nyght

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 8:42 pm
Last edited by Nyght_Shyft on Wed May 07, 2003 2:01 pm; edited 1 time in total

dmax
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ULTIMATE SOLVE

I figured out the end: we all die.

However, somewhere in the middle, something interesting happens. I think that's the part where we are now.

Just like we don't know the end of the CTW story, we shouldn't know the end of the RK "story." Folks seem to want the end FIRST.

Go on the amazing journey, and learn all you should know....

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Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 8:52 pm

LittleFish
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impressions

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Folks seem to want the end FIRST.

*laughing* it kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it?
as for:

Quote:

Not sure of the implications of this last one. I wonder why photocopied cards wouldn’t work?
Hmm..
So, as for there being anything hidden… “Are the clues hidden somewhere on the site?

I already posted a few thoughts about the purpose of the different cards including using the cards with the page
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1150&start=30
Anyone's input on my thoughts would be great. Especially now that some of the uproar has calmed down.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 10:34 pm

catherwood
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Re: wafer cards

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or you could save some time by printing the scans available on other websites. you might find, however, that the trip doesn't work very well in duplicated formats.

My first thought was a flashback to sugar cubes ::shudder::

Ok, so maybe a BAD photocopy wouldn't work, because of the ink or color or texture or quality of paper -- or the simple fact that the card is two-sided. Wouldn't a really GOOD copy work as well? Just what is IN those wafer cards anyway??

Now, could someone refresh my memory of what has been said about the need for the other cards? If we hand a wafer to someone, can they trip too? Or would they need the lanyard and sleeve and ignition card too?

Am i confusing the 1 ignition card + 2 data cards with these 3 wafer cards?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 10:42 pm

Nyght_Shyft
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Re: wafer cards

catherwood wrote:

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or you could save some time by printing the scans available on other websites. you might find, however, that the trip doesn't work very well in duplicated formats.

When you purchase the product, you get the lanyard, the card holder, and the cards. There is 1 ignition and 2 data cards, plus 3 rectangle series wafers. I assume that the first 3 cards (the "trip" cards) are what are called the base sequence, and the wafers are the pattens. You can order extra wafers, but you cannot order extra ignition or data cards.. so obviously there is something important about the wafers.

Someone else posted that some of the cards are transparent.. i'm not sure which of the cards are, but I am going to assume the wafers because of their importance. I think LittleFish might have something when he asks if something might be displayed when you hold it up to the screen.. the guide on the website (with the pictures you click through) are shaped just like the cards. I'll find out tomorrow (i should be sent them in the mail).

Anyhow, lets forget that and talk a little theory. Check out my newest post, I wantd to start a new topic for it.

-Nyght

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 11:00 pm

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