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[Puzzle] #179 Purple - By Another Name
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BrianEnigmaModerator
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I can no longer say what permutations and combinations I have tried because there have been so many of them. There are 144 different possible combinations of answer, given the following list, but these are the various answers I have collected for the six locations:
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1. Olympus Mons
2. Ares Vallis, Ares Valley, Sojourner, Sojourner Rover, Pathfinder, Mars Pathfinder, Sagan Memorial Station, Carl Sagan Memorial Station
3. Chryse Planitia, Chryse Plain, Viking 1
4. Pavonis Mons, Pavonis Mons Volcano, Pavonis Volcano
5. Korolev Crater, Korolev
6. Schiaparelli Crater, Schiaparelli

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:23 pm
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looosy
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Right, I've tried a different angle:

1. Shield Volcano/volcano
2. Flood Plain
3. Low Plain
4. Caldera
5. Engineer/crater/Korolev crater
6. Astronomer/crater/Schiaparelli crater

I wouldn't trust a word Kvasir says, bet we're all barking up the wrong tree!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:48 pm
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gid
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I would add to BriEnigma's list:

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1. Olympus Rupes, Mount Olympus
3. Plains of Gold, Thomas A. Mutch Memorial Station
4. Mount Pavonis, Tharsis Montes


...and variations thereof. The answers solitair gave to 4, 5 and 6 seem to be the ones with the least possible range (only one really prominent answer each), and since there are allegedly only two that were "spot on", at least one of those is wrong, but possibly "partially correct".

At which point, I concede defeat for another 24 hours, and head off to bed with an expectant look in Kvasir's direction.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:52 pm
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uneasyjd
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BriEnigma wrote:
I can no longer say what permutations and combinations I have tried because there have been so many of them.


No joke.

Just to recap, according to the USGS Astrogeology Research Program we're bang on with
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Pavonis Mons (Tharsis Montes is given as 1.2 N 112.5 W), Korolev Crater and Schiaparelli Crater. Olympus Mons and Olympus Rupes are given the same coordinates.


Argh.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:11 am
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Seej
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Whoah guys and gals; Chalco and Kvasir can tell us as much or as little as they like. That's their perogative. Yes, we do tend to share solves around here and the forum is certainly a valuable resource for people who can't get solves on their own, but if someone chooses not to share that doesn't mean we should break out the torches and pitchforks Smile

Granted this post may act as flamebait for some of you but I'm simply trying to stop us turning nasty - this is a game after all.

Besides, there's two things which you should consider:

1. This way someone else gets some credit for the solve as well and we all have something to do while we're waiting for more cards to solve.

2. If we're really incapable of solving this (though I can't see why collectively it should take us long now) then Chalco and Kvasir are far more likely to tell us the answer if we're playing nice.

Don't have the card with me at work but I'd be willing to bet, ooooh, a tenner or so, that the answers (based on what we now know) are:
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The two answers that are spot on are Olympus Mons and Pavonis Mons.

The two answers that are partially correct are the crater names and we simply need to refer to them as Schiaparelli and Korolev, since that's what both the maps I've seen call them.

The other two are the ones that have always seemed somehow 'off' to me but we know the basics so it's just a case of working through BriEnigma's list and posting here so that our efforts are coordinated.

Now let's not get "Does not play well with others" on the unfiction school report, ok? Wink

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Seej wrote:


Don't have the card with me at work but I'd be willing to bet, ooooh, a tenner or so, that the answers (based on what we now know) are:
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The two answers that are spot on are Olympus Mons and Pavonis Mons.

The two answers that are partially correct are the crater names and we simply need to refer to them as Schiaparelli and Korolev, since that's what both the maps I've seen call them.

The other two are the ones that have always seemed somehow 'off' to me but we know the basics so it's just a case of working through BriEnigma's list and posting here so that our efforts are coordinated.


I have come to pretty much the same conclusion as Seej and once I'm unlocked (shortlyish) I'll be trying the following:-

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Olympus Mons
Pathfinder
Viking I
Pavonis Mons
Korolev
Schiaparelli


Then:-

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Olympus Mons
Mars Pathfinder
Viking I
Pavonis Mons
Korolev
Schiaparelli


Finally:-

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Olympus Mons
Ares Vallis
Chryse planitia
Pavonis Mons
Korolev
Schiaparelli


And hope that I don't just get another 3 fails to add to my ever growing collection.

(edit to change sojourner to mars pathfinder as that combo has been tried.)

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Kvasir
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Seej wrote:
if someone chooses not to share that doesn't mean we should break out the torches and pitchforks Smile


Thanks Seej. And don't anyone kill Chalco, I'm the one whose been holding him back. He's been begging me to tell all morning, but I've been stuck in meetings and unable to get online let alone respond to his texts about villagers and pitchforks...

The reason I withheld this isn't because I wanted to be mean, I thought you would prefer to get the solve yourselves. I've been trying very hard not to come on here until I know the answers. I'm interested in the puzzles not the points. Silver cards and especially that Riemann one are another matter and I need all the help I can get!!

Seej wrote:

Don't have the card with me at work but I'd be willing to bet, ooooh, a tenner or so, that the answers (based on what we now know) are.


I hope you made that bet Seej, you were spot on on all three counts. I thought that the clue I gave earlier would be pretty helpful.

Seeing as everyone has effectively solved this (except for Looosey!), and are just waiting until they get the correct set of answers from BriEnigma's list, I've set out a full solve below.

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1. Olympus Mons
2. Pathfinder
3. Viking I
4. Pavonis Mons
5. Korolev
6. Schiaparelli

Just like to point out, I'm doing this from work and from memory, so I may be wrong about 3. It might be just "Viking" but I think I'm right.

To get the solve I just googled the coords in the form "19.6N 256E", and one of the first hits was a list of mars nomenclature. I got confirmation when Korolev turned up, and a google of that name came up with "chief designer" written all over it.

PS: Well done solitair, you get it first try with your proposals


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solitair
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Damn, now I just have to wait for it to unlock so I can put it in!

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solitair wrote:
Damn, now I just have to wait for it to unlock so I can put it in!

Ditto!

Thanks Kvasir!

*uneasyjd puts away the thumbscrews and produces a bouquet of flowers

I was actually thinking about this before I saw the solve and it fits the wording of the questions so well I'm kicking myself for not seeing it any of the umpteen times I've stared at the card...
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1 and 4 very much imply a full place name - Olympus Mons and Pavonis Mons, while 5 and 6 imply a surname - Korolev and Schiaparelli.

Aaarrrggghhh.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:27 am
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solitair
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OK, confirmation that the following is accepted:-

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Olympus Mons
Pathfinder
Viking I
Pavonis Mons
Korolev
Schiaparelli


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Oooh, I was so close with my last guess (see previous page), that was what I was going to try next. Although with a 1 rather than a I.

Thanks for revealing the answer, and I agree that you didn't have to.
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doublecross wrote:
Although with a 1 rather than a I.

I have no idea how many guesses I wasted using a "1" because the thought never occurred to me to use an "I" instead, but it was a lot. I have to wait until this afternoon before my card is unlocked before I can confirm the answer for myself.
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Dam i was so close then on mine, been putting in sojurner for the 2nd rather than the correct answer, again never thought of "I" instead of "1", to be fair though i think thats being a bit picky on mindcandy's part since both the numeral and number mean the same thing!

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Ah, it actually accepts 1 as well as I. So there.
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Raspberry fair enough must of just been the sojurner bit!

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