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BennyH · Boot Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 24 Location: Perth

I am deeply suspicious of No. 5. For two reasons:

1) Tolkien created two languages for his elves (or he created elves for his two languages, to be pedantic): Quenya and Sindarin. 'Amin mela lle' is a bastard form of Sindarin, the one based on Welsh, although the rest of the language on the site from whence it came looks like crap.

2) Tolkien famously never created the verb 'to love' in either language.

On second thoughts, ' I think it is right, although it would mean something like 'you are my friend'.

So, yeah. Sindarin, not Elvish. Maybe that will help.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:42 pm

BennyH · Boot Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 24 Location: Perth

Trying everything here, the full list (corrected):

FRENCH
ITALIAN
GERMAN
WELSH
SINDARIN
DANISH
JAPANESE
RUSSIAN
GHANAIAN (AKAN, TWI)
SWAHILI

And the names of those languages, in those languages:

FRANCAIS (cidilla under the C)
ITALIANO
DEUTSCH
CYMRAEG
SINDARIN/EDHELLEN (EDHELLEN is Sindarin in Sindarin, SINDARIN itself is a Quenya word)
DANSK
NIHONGO
RUSSKIY (Silly alphabets notwithstanding, so there are several ways of transliterating this, including RUSSKIJ)
AKAN/TWI
KISWAHILI

Any thoughts?

**Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:58 pm

cassandra · Entrenched Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 831

Not to be too pedantic myself, but technically there were many 'elvish' language families. Sindarin and Quenya were the most developed and most present in the corpus.

"Amin mela lle" is from the (website) Grey Company's 'Grelvish,' which most definitely is Quenya-derived. Some Sindarin is inserted to make up holes in vocabulary, but the basic grammar and syntax (if it can claim to have such) is from Quenya. I can go through the individual words here, but I don't think that will help us.

I suspect that perhaps the author of this card simply didn't know the actual history/linguistic background of "Elvish."

**Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:12 pm

cassandra · Entrenched Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 831

To be most accurate, upon reflection, the language should definitely be listed as Grelvish.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:35 pm

ariadne_ac · Boot Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 29

This site talks about Grelvish....and even has an english to elvish dictionary

http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/elvish/intro.html

Edit: on further investigation I don't think it will help much other than to explain what Grelvish is....

**Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:51 pm

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Ya tebyA lyublyU as YA TYEMBYA LYUBLYU ...what's the M for?

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Da Tee In TeeS of doom · Boot Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 30 Location: Denmark

Dane

**Posted:** Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:20 pm

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Da Tee In TeeS of doom · Boot Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 30 Location: Denmark

That last language

**Posted:** Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:54 pm

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**Posted:** Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:56 pm

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cassandra · Entrenched Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 831

either is acceptable, actually. I successfully used Ashanti on mine. I think.

though I still take issue with 'elvish.' hrmph.

**Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:11 am

Seej · Unfettered Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 614

Nooooo! This is now the third card where the site won't accept my answers even when I triple-check the spellings, not just here but via Google too. This is rubbish!

**Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:50 pm

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**Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:01 pm