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[Puzzle] Silver #238 Riemann
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downloader7
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well so if it is either T, J, 4 or 1 could even be > then can we agree on 5,395 f. possibly a number linked to riemann or even a coding used in some mathmatical terms.

Ill try a combination later on excpet im locked out untill about 9. Bit of a bummer but serves me right just putting in random terms, linked to Riemann, o well. Sure sum 1 will solve 1 day

Ill see if my further pure mathmatics teacher knows anything about the hypothesis, but i can tell you now my physics teachers dont really know much on it!!

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t9,35 s f googled brings up mathmatical theories at san francisco university.

But i agree if the solve is hidden like that, then its cheap. If it was a lead in the story, well thats a whole different matter.

Oh and chris, technically, i proved there was a $1000 prize. It asked me to prove the information on the card and i did. The answer is wrong, not me.

Smile But ill see you at the meet. lol.

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More Combinations avaliabe than what i thought then.

Love what you said about the proof!! Pure class
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Hmmm just wondering now if perhaps we are supposed to look at Riemanns other works like the curving of N-space etc, perhaps the number is related to one of these?
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That could be quite a lot of work. But the card is about a hypothesis of prime numbers. The only question that i myself actually know of is, is "show your proof" and to be honest more of a statement than a question. Maybe it could be asking of a process on how the number was found from the back of the card?

Im probably just talking a pile of rubbish now but im pretty new so dont hit me too hard as i fall
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Re-read the card a thousand times and thought I might try a simpler tack

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Along the lines of verifying internet transactions and subsequent proof of purchase


Simple I know but did'nt want to waste a days input opportunity. At least I know what its not (that and million other random words from the dictionary I have lined up Rolling Eyes )

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
1. Receipt
2. Pin
3. Verify


all failed. Shocked

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downloader7 wrote:
That could be quite a lot of work. But the card is about a hypothesis of prime numbers. The only question that i myself actually know of is, is "show your proof" and to be honest more of a statement than a question. Maybe it could be asking of a process on how the number was found from the back of the card?


True but we haven't actually found the question, we THINK its to do with what is stated on the card, but I think we can all agree that trying to solve an unsolvable theory worth a million pounds for a game with a prize of 100 grand is probably not the question and very unfair on MC's part if so.

Also I think the "show your proof" on the solve page is just further mis-direction, just so we can't work out what the card wants from looking at it.

To be honest I'm not sure if what I highlighted yesterday from Don's find is anything or not! I still can't really tell if what I'm seeing is there or just some odd coincidence from the fading of the background and the scanning!
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Following along with the thought that there might be something hidden in the dark part at the top of the card, after fiddling about with the image put on page 8 by Cherokee Parks I ended up zooming in on the same piece as donstobbart on page 18.

Now i think we're all agreed that something is there but i'm not seeing the t5,395f or various combinations of. I am however seeing quite clearly the letters/word - 333cube. If you look back to page 18 the first 3 starts just left of centre at the top and the final E (all in caps) is in the top right.

Now I had no idea what this was, so it wasn't even a case of seeing what i wanted to see, but after googling it brings me to the Rubik's cube (still difficult in my opinion but compared to proving Riemann's hypothesis...... well you do the math).

When solving the card the question asks "What is your proof?". And thats where i get stuck!! I thought i'd point this out to see if anybody else can see that phrase, and if so take the next step. Please don't trout me - I already got a double trouting for my first post and im not sure in my fragile state I can handle any more Embarassed

I tried Rubiks cube, Rubik's cube and 333 cube to no avail

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locqust wrote:
downloader7 wrote:
That could be quite a lot of work. But the card is about a hypothesis of prime numbers. The only question that i myself actually know of is, is "show your proof" and to be honest more of a statement than a question. Maybe it could be asking of a process on how the number was found from the back of the card?


True but we haven't actually found the question, we THINK its to do with what is stated on the card, but I think we can all agree that trying to solve an unsolvable theory worth a million pounds for a game with a prize of 100 grand is probably not the question and very unfair on MC's part if so.

Also I think the "show your proof" on the solve page is just further mis-direction, just so we can't work out what the card wants from looking at it.

To be honest I'm not sure if what I highlighted yesterday from Don's find is anything or not! I still can't really tell if what I'm seeing is there or just some odd coincidence from the fading of the background and the scanning!


If there is something there it could be linked to absolutly anything in the game as we all know. But if not Then again we have another bogus therory.

People see different things from the picture that was pulled, as we are begining to find out which also in turn gives us an endless possibility.

I have no other experiance with silver cards as this is the only 1 i own, and i have bin cracking down on the other cards and is has left me with Riemann.
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kie_yeo wrote:

Now i think we're all agreed that something is there but i'm not seeing the t5,395f or various combinations of. I am however seeing quite clearly the letters/word - 333cube. If you look back to page 18 the first 3 starts just left of centre at the top and the final E (all in caps) is in the top right.


I think this is venturing firmly into the area of things that might have made it there accidentally. Perhaps the original from which the card was produced was underneath paper when someone wrote the text in biro?

It seems like no where near enough info to progress the solve Sad

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I wasn't sure if I was seeing things or if there was something there really, thats why I asked if someone else could look. Jane thinks she sees Sin, (as in the sin function) and I wasn't sure. Maybe I am just clutching at straws 'cos I want to put this card away forever!!!!

To go off another way, found this to do with Fermats theory http://ne-plus-ultra.net/pubs/kisby_fermatarticle_rev.pdf maybe showing the proof is something like this, or for a bit of Reimann humour http://www.geocities.com/j_r_partington/riemann.html


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Done a bit of googling and found an email address of a person whom at the moment is the closest in solving this little mathmatical problem, i will post again once i have a reply

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kie_yeo wrote:
Following along with the thought that there might be something hidden in the dark part at the top of the card, after fiddling about with the image put on page 8 by Cherokee Parks I ended up zooming in on the same piece as donstobbart on page 18.

Now i think we're all agreed that something is there but i'm not seeing the t5,395f or various combinations of. I am however seeing quite clearly the letters/word - 333cube. If you look back to page 18 the first 3 starts just left of centre at the top and the final E (all in caps) is in the top right.

Now I had no idea what this was, so it wasn't even a case of seeing what i wanted to see, but after googling it brings me to the Rubik's cube (still difficult in my opinion but compared to proving Riemann's hypothesis...... well you do the math).


Any chance you can post an image with the 333cube highlighted? I'm being nosy now but I just want to see it!

333 was the project name for this game originally wasn't it? Or that 333 signed packs were sent out or somat when it started..I forget, so long ago.
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After Just deciding to flick through all the posts on riemann i came across a post by ryanandrew. He emailed the perplex city guys and said all the info to solve the card is on the card. Which also means we do not have to search for anything that may link to any numbers or letters seen in the grey shade
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that reply usually means we dont need any other cards to solve this card. doesnt mean we wont need to use outside sources to help solve it! lol
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