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Did someone say civil disobedience?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:49 pm
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bill
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addlepated wrote:
Ugh. Well in that case. I think everyone should use anonymous whois information no matter what kind of site they register, just as a sort of civil disobedience.


The only glitch in that is with .us domains. It's now illegal to use services to obscure your registration data. You must use your real contact information.
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imbri wrote:
Did someone say civil disobedience?


Oh, I always love me some good civil disobedience. Twisted Evil

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addlepated
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I smell subversives!

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i_monk
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Five little letters solve this issue, in my mind: T. I. N. A. G.

Everything outside the curtain, including the WHOIS registration, is in-game until you find cause to smack players on the nose in an in-game manner.

Confused newbies? That's for the players and community at large to sort out for themselves. You can make an approachable ARG without putting a THIS IS NOT REAL! CLICK HERE TO LEARN ABOUT ARGS! link at the top of each page.

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MageSteff
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i_monk wrote:
Five little letters solve this issue, in my mind: T. I. N. A. G.

Everything outside the curtain, including the WHOIS registration, is in-game until you find cause to smack players on the nose in an in-game manner.

Confused newbies? That's for the players and community at large to sort out for themselves. You can make an approachable ARG without putting a THIS IS NOT REAL! CLICK HERE TO LEARN ABOUT ARGS! link at the top of each page.


Which takes us back to the discussion at hand, separating the "real" from the "UNreal" and how some players like their Unreal masked to make it look real (which means the little disclaimer at the top of each page would totally sour them against your game) and to some extent rips a hole in the curtain you could drive a Mac Truck through.
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Ignore my last rambling... I totally misread
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:32 am
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addlepated
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Something to ponder:

http://foetry.com/newbb/viewtopic.php?p=906&

"Despite paying Domains by Proxy an additional fee to register foetry.com anonymously, they responded to a letter from a personal injury lawyer, and canceled my registration without notifying me of a complaint. Let that sink in: a personal injury lawyer's letter is all it took for DBP to cancel my anonymity."

Kinda scary.

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/me calls ozy.
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Ozy_y2k
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Interestingly, no one is REQUIRED to notify you of this sort of thing beforehand, unless it's in their TOS that they will agree to do so, in order to allow you the opportunity to object. Sometimes a simple, innocuous subpoena is all it takes to make some smaller ISPs start sweating bullets, because they can't afford the litigation fees.

So......LET THE LAWSUITS BEGIN!!! WOO HOO!!!! FREE FOR ALL!!!!!

Ahem. Okay, I'm calm. F'real.

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Ozy_y2k wrote:
Interestingly, no one is REQUIRED to notify you of this sort of thing beforehand, unless it's in their TOS that they will agree to do so, in order to allow you the opportunity to object. Sometimes a simple, innocuous subpoena is all it takes to make some smaller ISPs start sweating bullets, because they can't afford the litigation fees.

So......LET THE LAWSUITS BEGIN!!! WOO HOO!!!! FREE FOR ALL!!!!!

Ahem. Okay, I'm calm. F'real.


Some poor potential PM will read this. Later, he will be at the beach. He will see a fin in the water and faint. His girlfriend/wife will help him up and tell him he has to stop thinking he sees lawyers everywhere...
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FLmutant
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Now there's an idea for an ARG ... an ARG focused entirely on the Collective Litigator instead of the Collective Detective (where the puzzles tell you who you have to sue or subpeona next to advance the storyline.)

Wait. That's too much like real life. Toss that idea on the "so so" pile for me, would you?

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krystyn
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Interesting set of links and discussion over at Metafilter re: Domains by Proxy and GoDaddy.

Definitely an FYI, for those of you feeling secure using their services.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:00 am
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Ozy_y2k
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With all due respect to the Foetry guy, he's kind of an idiot. Twisted Evil

"Illusory contract", my ass. This smacks of the sort of person who's read a paragraph or two online of basic contract law and now suddenly he thinks he's a junior lawyer. GoDaddy's contract is no more illusory, due to its ability to provide indemnfication/insulation for the ISP as a result of pending or threatened lawsuits, than half a million other commercial note agreements out there which allow the contracts or debts to be immediately cancelable or callable as a result of pending OR THREATENED litigation, bankruptcy, arbitration or an assignment for the benefit of creditors. I regularly include this boilerplate language in my contracts and TOS's all the time, as do hundreds of thousands of other lawyers, and it's almost never deemed unenforceable except for good cause.

Fool.

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konamouse
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Ozy_y2k wrote:

So......LET THE LAWSUITS BEGIN!!! WOO HOO!!!! FREE FOR ALL!!!!!


Trying to drum up a little more business?

/me wonders what Ozzy's co-workers might think of his avatar (those ears really make the mou.... er, the man)

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* konamouse wonders what Ozzy's co-workers might think of his avatar (those ears really make the mou.... er, the man)


Hey, I'll take a lawyer in mouse ears over most others any day. Trust me. A sense of humor shows intelligence.
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