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[beglee]

I was thinking, and someone may have mentioned it before, that it may be a pattern gradient/fault lines etc from Mars or some other cellestial body, so i was looking around and found a nice site with 2D maps of Mars, the Moon and Venus.

http://webgis.wr.usgs.gov/pigwad.htm

To have a look at the maps, pick one of the planets or moon, and click on the respective advanced map for the internet browser you are using. The maps load up in an applet and you can superimopse different data such as gradient, geological patterns, and some others that i have no idea what they are. I didnt really find a whole lot to match the Elucidate pattern, except for a slight similarity with the dark pattern of the Moon (see pic below). But, i dont think they are similar enough to provide a solve, and doesnt explain the lines on the card. The moon pic may also have been slightly distorted in shape due to being mapped to 2D and i think i resized/rotated it too. But it does have a similar C shape to it at the bottom, and rises up from the top right of that C-shape. See what you guys make of it.

As a side note, many of the moon landings have been within this dark area, you can also see where these were using the maps i found, and maybe (major spec) the lines could have been routes of exploration from those landings using that moon car they brought up there before, but i kinda doubt it.

Anyway, maybe one of you can see a better matching pattern on one of the maps or this might inspire another idea from someone else. Or these maps might come in handy for another part of the story or another card that hasnt been released yet.

[sotonrich]

hi, i'm very new to PXC in fact i only started playing this week and i've been lucky enough to find 2 silver cards already. anyways..........

i did a search for adrian hon and it gave me a number of web sites including adrians blog: http://www.mssv.net/

reading this you can see he has a lot to do with the study of mars and all things martian, adrian is the "owner?" of http://www.newmars.com/

which leads me to think that perhaps its a pitcure of a martian scan of something to do with martian landscape......this wouldn't b the first time we've seen a mars related question (Transit).

so thats my thoughts.......for now

[sotonrich]

ok just a thought.............does anyone know anything about "dark dunes" on mars.

take a look at this pic of them http://images.spaceref.com/news/2004/2004.02.11.E1201876.gif

[Langley Moor]

I've just been off along the Mars geology tangent myself.... there's some quite promising stuff about valleys and so on - have looked into flood valleys, but not sure if that's the right direction. Have also looked at relief maps of the Olympus mountain ranges, and they look similar to the reliefs on the card, bu not close enough.

Just for completeness, the floowing are incorrect answers:

flood channels
tharsis (the region in which the flood channels exist)
NSV (northwestern slope valley)

Here's the article I took those from:
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/mars-water-science-01k.html

I hadn't noticed the Adrian Hon link before, hats off to the people that spotted that one.... I've a feeling that the link to Mars is too strong to pass over easily!

[chichiri]

Just thought I'd note that adrian hon also did the art for master of secrets, which could suggest sand dunes, probably not though.

no da

[locqust]

perhaps an optical shadow effect caused when the moon is in different phases of the month? I know sometimes its possible to loose whole craters from solar light if the sun and moon are in the right alignment.

[monkeytroll]

If it is of any use I can confirm the cards are printed on foil. I peeled mine apart to see if shining light through the card helped in any way. Obviously just after starting I realised what a bloody stupid idea it was, but just had to carry on - just in case. And it did help - 'coz now I've got a blank white card and a crumpled bit of silver foil. Oh, wait a minute, that's not helped at all has it? Guess this card has destroyed my mind (and my mind has destroyed this card)

[sotonrich]

oh crule fate! a pack of cards i got today had another "elucidate" card in it!!! i have 2 now..............both taunting me?

can i broach the idea that we might actually be think a bit too much about this?.................i mean Mind Candy cant expect us all to have access to positronic scanners or whatever!

maybe it just needs a little back to basics thinking we all assume that a silver card must be hard but maybe it just means that there's less pointers....the answer it's self may be simple

[chichiri]

Since it's plaguing you so much then how about giving me one, then you only have the one to worry about.

There's no need to thank me, I'm here to help, when I'm not screwing things up that is.

no da

[ryknow]

Am I the only one who sees a clue in Kurt's post from Monday? (slap me now, if you like)
http://www.thepathofleasttime.com/archives/2005/11/that_pesky_book.html
this part in particular:

[PuzzledPineapple]

[locqust]

That does make alot of sense, though I guess the title could be the question or instruction like on other cards ie read between the lines or by another name. But either way how can we shed light on or clarify something this obscure?

[sotonrich]

[Hunting4Treasure]

Does anyone have access to an infrared light?

Speaking of filters, has anything turned up in Photoshop?

[sotonrich]

i used the night mode feature of my sony camcorder that i believe use a from of IR and when held directly over the card in a dark room only the lines are visable.....i wish i could show u but not sure how?

ALSO: take a look at this picture http://www.converj.com/blogger/converjed/images/mer-landingsites.jpg

if the card is held with the top facing right u can almost match the mountains the card