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[NEW OOG SITE?] Perplexed in L.A.
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appleTRON
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Welcome, Jimmy!

I, too am here in Los Angeles ... are you really looking for an assistant? How much are you paying? Wink
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I know Jimmy has joined us here @ Unfiction, but I just thought I'd point those of you who aren't reading his story to this new and interesting post:

Enjoy it.

I was extremely entertained.
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I find this more disturbing than entertaining.
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SpaceBass wrote:
I find this more disturbing than entertaining.


Since many of us have been a little suspicious of Sente, I think Jimmy's buyer presents a very interesting alternative to returning the cube to Mind Candy. Depending on what the cube does, we may want to keep it on Earth.

Of course, depending on what it does, we may not want it to fall into unscrupulous hands on Earth either.

I think this is a pretty cool twist, having 2 interested parties (so far). It would be pretty cool if this is all in-game. Imagine the PM's hiring a detective to search for the cube Smile Either way though, I think it adds a new layer to this game. Is anything going to be OOG by the time we're done?

Edit: Removed OOG tags.
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This may be a cool twist but if it is in-game, then he shouldn't be registered and posting on the forums. Whether or not it's official.

Also, there's no need to tag your post OOG; this entire forum is out of game.
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SpaceBass wrote:
This may be a cool twist but if it is in-game, then he shouldn't be registered and posting on the forums. Whether or not it's official.


I'm not saying Jimmy is in-game, he's just another "player". I'm saying his BUYER may be. As far as I know, his buyer hasn't posted here yet. Would that still be against the rules? Skirting them possibly, but it seems like that's still valid (especially if, as I assume, Jimmy has no knowledge either way about his buyer's motivations).

EDIT: And another thing, Jimmy mentions he hasn't actually been paid anything yet, which means he's not an EMPLOYEE of the PM's either.

SpaceBass wrote:
Also, there's no need to tag your post OOG; this entire forum is out of game.


Heh, I didn't notice which section I was in (I read most posts through thunderbird so I rarely notice the actual forum I'm in). I shall pay more attention in when I post in the future Smile
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This may be a cool twist but if it is in-game, then he shouldn't be registered and posting on the forums. Whether or not it's official.


I agree with you. It's not fair to the players to creep into their forum and I think anyone in-game at MC would know that. This seems to me like someone with another story.

Some of us can solve puzzles and some of us can spin a great yarn. It's a game for all of us, right?
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appleTRON wrote:
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This may be a cool twist but if it is in-game, then he shouldn't be registered and posting on the forums. Whether or not it's official.


I agree with you. It's not fair to the players to creep into their forum and I think anyone in-game at MC would know that. This seems to me like someone with another story.

Some of us can solve puzzles and some of us can spin a great yarn. It's a game for all of us, right?


My question is, what if he's supposed to be MC's sort of "hint guide", giving us occasional subtle clues if we're going about things the wrong way (e.g., "You know, guys, Interpretation X of Data Set Y is valid, but what if we looked at it from Angle Z? I think that might be a worthwhile direction to take, but I don't have the time/resources/health to check out Z, so would someone else do it for me")?

My theory is, if that's the case, he'd have to look like 'just another guy' (albeit one who's a retired PI).

Of course, if WolverineFan's spec is right (i.e., it's the alternate buyer who's in-game and not Jimmy), it's a moot point Wink
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Macavity wrote:
My question is, what if he's supposed to be MC's sort of "hint guide", giving us occasional subtle clues if we're going about things the wrong way (e.g., "You know, guys, Interpretation X of Data Set Y is valid, but what if we looked at it from Angle Z? I think that might be a worthwhile direction to take, but I don't have the time/resources/health to check out Z, so would someone else do it for me")?

My theory is, if that's the case, he'd have to look like 'just another guy' (albeit one who's a retired PI).

Of course, if WolverineFan's spec is right (i.e., it's the alternate buyer who's in-game and not Jimmy), it's a moot point Wink


It would be a clear violation of the rules to have an in-game character post on unfiction. Even to steer us in the right direction.

That's why I think if anyone is in-game it would have to be the buyer NOT Jimmy. Mind Candy has been very good about following the rules so far. I doubt they'd break them now Smile

Now, if Jimmy had remained a blogger we could speculate as to his existence/role, but since he posted here he has to be a real person.
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Hmm, the rabbit hole goes deeper than ever Smile Whatever is going on here, someone is being really clever, wheather its Jimmy, this 'Buyer' or just MC.

As for this issue with posting on the boards... I agree with what has been said before in that it must prove that JIMMY is OOG, but there's all the potential for the Buyer to be IG. If so, MC are really pushing the 'rules' - I asume they wouldn't break them, so maybe Jimmys contact is a branch of MC made to give the game new dimensions(?)

The Buyer could be OOG too however, but why someone would what to pay double the reward for a something that's all part of a 'game' is beyond me.

Apologies if some/all of this has been said before - this is how I stand on the matter, and if you agree, great!
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Well, I fear 2 things. One, I fear of upsetting Mind Candy. Two, I fear of getting any of y'all upset (or continue to anger those already bothered by it). I also feel this spec is taking away from the game spec at hand. So, I'm breaking character to put this to bed for good.

My name's Chris, and I'm the handler of Shamus D Leahy. I am 100% OOG, and never intended on letting people think I had any in-game connection. Let me explain.

I've been a fan of interactive stories since the days when BBS's were all the rage. This is my first ARG, and on top of the puzzle solving, there's a huge interactive story here, which is what drew me into this. While most of you "play" as yourself, I saw this as a chance to create a character and have HIM "play." I get to write this lil' tale, and I can still play the game just like everyone else - I just happen to have a story to tell along with it. Plus, with each plot point the PM's beam down, along with discoveries found amongst these forums, I would get a constant flow of things for my character to react, adapt, and reveal himself to. Very exciting for me, and it was a lot of fun until people began to get confused by it. My subtle hints haven't worked, so here I am.

Again, I never meant to ARG-Jak, or divert attention or anything like that. My original "goal" or "dream" was an in-game char would contact Jimmy, much like what happened recently to someone else with Kurt, and that Jimmy would end up being a minor-minor character in the great story of Perplex City. But, that was a lofty goal to say the least. My REAL hope was that I would either get noticed by a letter to the Sentinel, or some other way of self-promotion, and that you fellow gamers would see it as a nice diversion - a cool sub-adventure that a fellow gamer created, like the Animatrix or a fan-fic or something like that.

I would've said all this sooner, but the ARG World is a unique one. There's this thing I call the "Illusion Line" (I'm sure you have a term for it). On one side, there's this desire to keep up the possibility that this all COULD BE real. But, on the other side rests the land of trout - uncool misleads, dupes, or ARG-jackers. I fear, without my power to stop it, I fell into the duped side of that line, which is why I'm writing this.

If anyone ever felt mislead or duped by me - or disturbed - I am truly sorry. My desire to keep in character over-rode the sense that I should set the folks on here straight. I love being a part of the Unfiction community, and don't want to jeopardize my continued involvement.

I've put a little disclaimer on the blog, too, to clarify for folks not on Unfiction. It's enough to be clear, but also enough to keep up my pretend world, I think. I hope you all can forgive me, and let me retain a home on here. Any continued interaction will be devoid of any self-promotion - I can add to the spec and be another worker bee, and do my thing on my own.

If you have any other questions, you know where to find me.

Humbly,

Chris

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Now that is class, sir. Well done.
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Thanks, Chris. I much appreciate that explanation. There's not anything necessarily wrong with what you're trying to do in general, except as it may mislead other players (but if that were unintentional, it could easily be forgiven - and it truly is up to the PMs to choose to accept or disprove your tactic). However, as far as this board is concerned, we prefer to hear from the real you rather than the character. Obviously we have no say over what you do outside of the forums, but this place is meant to be solely out-of-game.

I actually think you're doing a great job with your blog and I hope the PMs do acknowledge it in-game in some way or another. I myself managed to appropriate a minor character touched upon in a previous game, and getting my writings mentioned in-game by the PMs was quite exhilarating.

As an aside, I believe the "Illusion Line" that you refer to is probably what we commonly call the "Curtain." Smile
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Agreed. Thanks for the clarification, Chris. And if you're ever looking for someone in the L.A. area to do some puzzle-solving or cube-hunting with, just drop a line!

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damn -- i think i prefered it as a mystery Very Happy Very Happy

good stuff chris
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