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[SPEC][META] Cube handling and storage = possible locale
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oliverkeers13
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Dammit. Not only did i reveal that i was a PM, I also revealed the location. You got it exactly Tanner. Wow, this game lasted all of a month. Time to move it and re-script the game.
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hahaha -- sorry oliverkeers13 -- i couldnt resist it
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You people clearly aren't thinking 3 dimensionally! Where is the only place in the universe where all of us are potentially an equal distance from the Cube? The center of the Earth! That's how the PMs have made it fair - anyone with millions of pounds/dollars worth of drilling equipment can start digging from anywhere on the surface. Sorted. You all can thank me once the expedition is complete Smile
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The idea that the cube is split up does make a lot of sense. I get the feeling that there will be a piece (or several) on each continent to retrieve.

Question then is, how will the money be split up? If it's $200K, there's plenty to go around, or do the PM's have a plan as to how only one person retrieving one part will get it all?

Whatever the case, I have little doubt there are going to be too many twists in this ARG to count. Personally, I'd be content with a piece of the cube and no reward.
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Well, this particular point has really plagued me, personally, and I think all my questions may arrive at one solution. It hit me like a hernia today. The question as to how the Cube got transported here if things can't be transported, and how can it buried, and how will people find it if they can't travel?

This is an internet search, right? What if "the Cube", or its essense, has been computerized. Talk about easy transportation. Sente and the gang can send and receive emails, so what if "the Cube" exists in our cyberspace. That, unfortunately, opens up the suspect dossier, but may explain a lot.

Buried? Buried in a computer network, in a bunch of directories, or on some server, "buried."

Quite a level playing field then, there, huh?

-Jimmy

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Mosestrotsky
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I hope you will allow me a complete off topic mention but thought be appropriate here as the word Cube is mentioned.

Happy Birthday Rubik's Cube - 25 yrs old

Now anyone to write an article?

Thankyou - you can all go back to proper related cube spec

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Mosestrotsky
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Actually i think its in Mind Candy's office - they expect us to storm the place and search it. Smile

Interestingly the ol' Brotherhood say

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* '''For does not the Cube show us the way in building, and was not Gyvann himself a builder and shall we not then build? Let us, therefore, build. And they built a great fortress, yet by the power of the Cube it was toppled to the ground, and they built a mighty tower, yet by the power of the Cube it was utterly removed, thus they built a lowly shack and it was good.'''
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* '''And he said: reject, my children, those who call you to destroy, for only in the cube lies the power of destruction. And they asked: does not every man die in his season? And he said: only with the Cube's will.'''



So if it can destroy - can it also build? Perhaps it built a place around itself - a secure location

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I think that it is an interesting Idea, Shamus, but for a number of points made about the Cube from Perplex City.
1. It was on display, if it was data, someone could copy it.
2. It was 3 dimensional (a cube, duh)
3. It reacts with water etc.
4. It has markings on its side.

Apart from number 3, these could all be part of a flash generated 3d cube (see Virtucube). OMGWTFBBQ the CUBE is VIRTUCUBE!!!!!11111!!! We Have to slove it!!111!!!
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However, to this theory's defense, we do know the cube crossed over, and the only other thing known to cross over thus far is communication/information. Additionally, the cube while being physical, metal, reactive, ect. it was massively unknow what capabilities it has. And perhaps that was an additional reason for, I believe it was "C", the computer specialist, to be on the theft team.

I'm still curious what Klebold plates or whatever was found at 5 cups are used for.

I think the 'scripture' that was quoted was interestingly pointing to the cube as a weapon again. Or at least capable of destruction. which agains points to motive....

*Blink blink blink*.....Umm....What if Perplex City, itself, in the grand scheme, is proven not to be a physical, but rather to be an AI conglameration, somewhere buried deep here on earth. It's a place in a cerebral/perceptual way, but that would explain a non-physical cross over, only info. Additionally, it could explain why they are more suited to puzzles as they'd really be varying forms of AI. And, what if, perhaps, the Cube, was the server/master program that all of Perplex City is within? This would also explain why they use our world's locations as reference points (discussed in another thread about Red Hot Bakery's menu of items) Finding the Cube, may well be finding Perplex City itself, and this event is a stage for which the AI can present itself and assure our satisfactory intellegence and presence of mind to not go "Thinking machine! Nuke it before it turns us into power-plants!!1!!one!11"

This idea needs ironing, but it hit me like a ton of bricks...maybe a new thread should be made to play with the cyber-Perplex City idea...

Till again...
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tanner wrote:

oh no its in the paris catacombs
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nope, I was searching down there just last week, and definitely no glowy out-of-this-world inorganic cubes lying around... Smile

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ShamusDLeahy wrote:
Well, this particular point has really plagued me, personally, and I think all my questions may arrive at one solution. It hit me like a hernia today. The question as to how the Cube got transported here if things can't be transported, and how can it buried, and how will people find it if they can't travel?

This is an internet search, right? What if "the Cube", or its essense, has been computerized. Talk about easy transportation. Sente and the gang can send and receive emails, so what if "the Cube" exists in our cyberspace. That, unfortunately, opens up the suspect dossier, but may explain a lot.

Buried? Buried in a computer network, in a bunch of directories, or on some server, "buried."

Quite a level playing field then, there, huh?

-Jimmy


Here's a thought (inspired partly by Elsheran's AI spec) - the 'cube' they revere might be a digital representation of a cube-shaped computer in our world, something akin to the Apple G4 Cube or the Falcon Northwest FragBox (a shuttle gaming PC, designed for ease of transport - it's small, light enough to be carried easily by hand, and it's got a carry-handle on the top), and this cubic computer has been broken up and had its components scattered around the world.

Now, some of you might be wondering how the inhabitants of Perplex City are communicating with us if their computer was taken apart. The answer?

Back-ups! We're basically talking to archival copies of these AI programs - one that have been kept on standby, but updated with events that happened in Perplex City until the time the Cube was stolen and disassembled.

Another theory - and this one inspired by your data, Jimmy - is that the Cube could have been a holographic data storage array (something akin tot he Tacitus from Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun, but cubic instead of spherical). Naturally, the information contained in the data array would be useful to a lot of people - and the Reconstructionists might actually be descended from the original keepers of the Cube until it was lost to the original keepers in whatever happened to the previous civilization.

Now, considering the fact that one of the Scripture quotes on the Brotherhood of the Six website has to do with people dying "through the will of the Cube", my suspicion is that part of the data on the Cube - if it is a data array - is weapons data: how to build, , deploy, and operate advanced weapons technology (say, laser cannons, disintegrator beams, sonic disruptors, plasma lances, and the like).

Naturally, if the Reconstructionists are supposed to keep the Cube safe and make sure nobody accesses the data, they'd be pretty damn miffed (to put it mildly) if the Academy discovered that weapons data and started building them again. After all, if they're descended from the survivors of a major disaster (such as a globe-spanning war), it would be in their best interests to keep that weapons data out of the hands of any who might attempt to put it to use.

And, if this weapons data has been copied, the original destroyed, and the copy sent to Earth somehow, the signal Sente and his Academy crew are picking up might be an automated distress signal from a sentry program in the data: "Help, I'm not where I'm supposed to be, get me out of here!"

Just occurred to me - this would also explain why the Cube's reagent is water. Water shorts out electrical circuitry, doesn't it? Wink
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May i ask - as I have obviously missed it - where does it say the Cube is a reagent with water?

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From the wiki:

Quote:
Properties of the Cube
According to the Firebox Catalog:
It is metallic in appearance
It is of indeterminate mass
It will react with water, liquid mercury, and acetone.

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it was way earlier to when we knew that firebox was involved -- cant, offhand, rememeber exactly when but was much discissed at the time
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sledgecallier wrote:
From the wiki:

Quote:
Properties of the Cube
According to the Firebox Catalog:
It is metallic in appearance
It is of indeterminate mass
It will react with water, liquid mercury, and acetone.

<humor>
So keep it away from the following:

Large bodies of water (lakes, rivers, reservoirs, etc)
Electromechanical thermostats (many of them contain a glass capsule with mercury in - it acts like a switch), mercury thermometers, dentists (they use mercury in amalgam fillings), and the TARDIS (mercury fluid links)
Manicurists, pedicurists, and anyone else who uses nail polish remover
</humor>
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