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[atdt1991]

[Halo 2] Evade Evade Evade's staff

[fugitivesoldier]

To be honest, it really is nothing more then a word next to your name.

There is no magically delicious aspect of it.

I personally have no problem with keeping things as is. This group belongs to you, not us.

Our group was big, and had some quality members such as ENS Dragonrider and others. Sadly, many of these old friends have been MIA since January 9th, 2005 or earlier.

Dragonrider herself only played on 11/11/04 and that was it.

Everyone in that clan who was a registered Crew Member was Staff, and that was fine.

But people need to realize that this isn't the same clan.

Am I a little sad that the Beekeeper name was abandoned? Yes, but hell I missed SPDR ninjas back in the day.

It happens. One day, we will go back to that name and clean it up a bit, at least that's what I have heard.

I think many Beekeepers came over to E3 due to enlarged Friends Lists and figured it was the most efficient group to be in (in terms of active players). That's what my decision was based on.

So if you want my advice, ATDT, leave it as is.

This wasn't a merger, as far as I know. Stick by your rules.

[ThaJinx]

Dayamn. Thanks ATDT, though I think we both know how not all that important it is Thanks just the same.

ALSO ALSO WIK: Great ref, mate

[Guest]

Wait...
Why again, in that IM, did you assume I was in this "campaign"


I don't see much of anything wrong with the current staff. Other than some of them are crazy, but then again... I am certainly not the one to talk (j/k)

The staff appointed now are exceptionally bright and repsected/able members of the community.

I've heard people complain about members that no one recognized, but as far as i've been on... every night, I havent seen a single one on, let alone harrassing us.

I have heard about complaining with regards to "the beekeepers" merging into "E3". And I have heard complaining about modding. I've even heard complaining about not filming videos (my god how about that one for a change) But I havent heard any really good reason as to why we need more staff. Seems like an odd push.

* my 42 cents *

[Incitatus]

[atdt1991]

'cause you're an agitator, Incitatus. I mean, look at your name. You like to INCITE. You Inciter, you.

Actually, you're often on, and, and ... I have no idea. I didn't assume it, I simply asked if you were, and then pointed you to my thoughts on the matter (here). Admittedly, I didn't do the same to anyone else, but, y'know... I'm an inciter too, in my own little way. heh.

That's for the invite tonight, folks, but it's really, really, really uncomfortable playing objective games without a headset. I spent the evening playing Team Slayer and Rumble Training with my homey. We were shocked (shocked!) to find ourselves at LV 16 at the end of the night.

We kind of figured we'd never pass 10.

[Tiny]

No jokes, I've explained my reasons 100 times, without a single reply about it. I even sent AtDt a messege this evening explaining the reasons. The one answer I actually got about anything specific was from Krystyn the other night, and it was that the clan was supposed to be very social and laidback, which at the time, I couldn't understand what that had to do with getting rid of the extra people we bring in for a bit. The fact that we needed more Staff members was agreed upon by the general clan awhile ago, one night when Krystyn and a few others had already gone off to bed and then it never happened.
The Reason I want Me, Lois, SuperJerms and DeathDeli as Staff
Usually before I go to work every day, I sit down at my xbox about 3 eastern and play Halo for an hour. Usually there's a couple people on and it's a completely different crowd from who's on at night. What we usually do is play a game or two of team training, and since we rarely have exactly 4 or 8 of us, we play clan, which usually gurantee's us an even match, and no crazies that we don't know being matched along with us, like that Grinder guy today.
So we like to play clan over anything else, understandable yes? Well, usually we have an odd man out, one of Tsuki's friends, or Mine, or Mutant, or whatever, who is playing with us. We usually let that person join the clan so we don't get goofy matches. All I want more Staff for is so I don't have to go find Krystyn or AtDt to get them back out of the clan. I mean how unreasonable is that?
I've explained this to a million people, and I have yet to get a response back as to why me trying to save some time and inconvienence is so wrong. This evening you misunderstood and thought I was talking about booting people from the party, which is not the case, we have people that we let in the clan for a game or two, and need to boot them from the whole clan.
And for the record, you haven't been "inundated", I sent you one messege and then tried to hold an ongoing conversation with you about it midgames tonight. I've sent Krystyn a few offline messeges when i didn't see her online awhile ago, and I have actually only managed to have one two second conversation about this subject with her.
Right now, the only Staff members that play on the same amount of time as the rest of us is Krystyn and Jinx, and niether of them play in the afternoon or middle of the night when I and other's play, when we actually need to eject the temporary clan members.
I work crazy hours, and add that to the time zone differences, I usually see the two of them for a few games a night maybe three or four on the nights I don't work, and usually none on the nights I do, less I get off early, like tonight. This isn't some, let's take over the world thing, I didn't ask you to do some big huge task, I'm just trying to save some inconvienience. It's cleaned up now, no one extra is in there, simply because I've been worried about doing it, because I don't know how long these people will stay in the clan, and what might happen in that time.
A point about the odd hours I keep, it's 3:30, and I plan on going over to the box after I finish typing this, and playing for another hour or so.
There, I think I've explained the reason enough, if not, I'll be happy to elaborate more to any questions, but it's pretty transparent from my Pov, and not some demand for omniscient power.
Tj-

[atdt1991]

Alright, look. I like you well enough, but you've -never- been polite in this request, only pissed off. Lois was the first to PM me with "HEY! WE NEED MORE STAFF! WE ONLY HAVE ONE!" which is both not true and an unproductive way of communicating.

Obviously, this forum is the best place for talking about these questions, because we have -many- members, not just whatever group you were speaking with in one party.

You're doing a pretty wacky thing to the clan by having people join and then booting them afterward. We have a couple of people in the clan who were never interested in ILB, like suki, and that's okay, she's good people. If you have good people for friends, I personally have no problem with them being here, they'll just have to get that we have a huge assortment of private jokes.

I may be adding more staff over the next few weeks, but seeing as how every other beekeeping clan has collapsed, I'm not keen on setting up a situation where we've got infighting about who belongs and who doesn't.

Have people join as Peons (who can't add members), and then PM any one of us staff (Jinxie or Krystyn are obvious choices, though I'm on nearly every day, now that school is out) and we'll boot them - no one else in our clan is a Peon, so it will be obvious that they were intended to be temporary only.

I do hope that's acceptable, because so far, all I've seen for responses is "we have -enough- staff." And I agree.

[krystyn]

So is it true that one cannot remove oneself from a clan? That seems dumb to me.

ETA: Dante, you've had far more than a 2 second conversation with me about this. But, you know, as many words as there are in the English language, there's only so many ways I can phrase my complete and utter apathy towards organizing this clan in any way. I made that abundantly clear to you, and you continued to rationalize to me why you and select others should be made staff.

I respect your reasoning in and of itself, but in combination with this clan, it's like oil and water. Our goals are not mixing, mostly because I and atdt and a lot of the older members of E3 don't even have goals.

That's not to say that I don't enjoy playing with all of you whenever I'm on. I do have a great time hanging out with everyone in the swamp or the shopping mall. I just ... don't ... care ... about .... clan ........... stuff ........

/me slumps over into a narcoleptic heap.

[loismustdie68]

I just want to say that I have no care to become staff.

I think the clan is perfect the way it is. There is no extra benefits to becoming staff, that I can see (or I would want). I dont know how I got dragged into this desire of staffhood. Unless it was evil Anti-Lois. And since ATDT claims I sent him a message, it must have been him. So you can just ignore anything that he says/does.

But I'm fine with the current staff as it is and I dont see the need for more staff. and I don't like the fact that some people are inviting members just to be in clan matches. (isn't that what happened to the SPDR Ninjas). in my opinion it would be best just to not invite people into the clan on a temporary basis. But if people see the need to absolutely do so, I think the idea of making peons is the best.

[Phaedra]

[fugitivesoldier]

[Fenwicked]

/me head asplode

[fugitivesoldier]

i'll get the mop

[vector]

It comes down to this, the idea of Evade Evade Evade, as I see it, is to evade careing about rank and just play the dang game with beekeepers. I would suggest that if you want a clan that has enough people to plan in a full team of 8 clan match, that you find a clan that has that many people there. I am afraid you will find that those clans are HORRIFFIC to play with. The reason why Evade is fun is because of the people. And we all know that. I would like to prevent people from being added from the clan that have no idea what a payphone is.

The process of finding a friend and bringing that person into the group so that you can play a game is called Matchmaking. I have seen no difference in the kind of people that you play in big team vs clan. the only thing that you get out of clan match is playing a clan ranked 10 levels above us and not threatening the most precious and coveted thing of the most imporant of importances that is the personal big team match rank.

(if you want me to go off on my hatred for those rankeing numbers...well I wont as I am anoyed with the world enough right now)