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What book?

The Power and the Glory - Graham Greene
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Frankenstein - Mary Shelley
31%
 31%  [ 7 ]
The Handmaid's Tale - Margaret Atwood
18%
 18%  [ 4 ]
The Stranger - Albert Camus
18%
 18%  [ 4 ]
Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky
27%
 27%  [ 6 ]

Total Votes : 22

 
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urthstripe
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What book should Urth read?

Rock the vote! What book should I read for AP English?
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I voted Mary Shelley's Frankenstein because that's what I read for my English IV AP class. How do I remember that considering my senior AP class was over 10 years ago? Well, because the paper just happened to be out on my desk because I found it awhile back while going through old papers Razz

The novel can be intrepreted countless ways, following through on multiple themes. My interpretation pursued the idea that Victor Frankenstein was a schizophrenic (not a person with a multiple personality as many people think the term means) and it is probably the best academic paper I've ever written.

there's my .02 Pony?!
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I voted The Handmaid's Tale - out of all the books on your list, it's the one I've read several times for pleasure, not academics. I also read Frankenstein a few times just because I wanted to.

P.S. Cliff's Noted on The Stranger - listen to The Cure's "Killing an Arab". Wink

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I voted The Stranger, just because it had 1 vote and the rest had 2.. so I wanted to make them all have equal votes to confuse you more Smile

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addlepated wrote:
I voted The Handmaid's Tale - out of all the books on your list, it's the one I've read several times for pleasure, not academics. I also read Frankenstein a few times just because I wanted to.


Creeeepy.

I voted for THE HANDMAID'S TALE as well, but FRANKENSTEIN was my second choice.
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Why would you NOT read Frankenstein?
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RobMagus wrote:
Why would you NOT read Frankenstein?


Seconded. Although I'd ask the same, just as strongly, about THE HANDMAID'S TALE.
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crime and punishment gets my vote - its actually a really good read - (dont confuse it with war and peace, and dont be put off by the russian names)

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chippy wrote:
crime and punishment gets my vote - its actually a really good read - (dont confuse it with war and peace, and dont be put off by the russian names)

Really? Am I correct in assuming that you consider War and Peace a worse read (by comparison)?

I find it curious that Westerners almost never fail to prefer Dostoevskiy to Tolstoy (I mean, Leo).

To me Dostoevskiy is dark, almost decidedly un-Russian, and bordering on incomprehensible. I find it impossible to get through his 11-page pseudo-psychological passages - it's like wading through a swamp of words, words, words. The spirally sentences are long to the point that I often have to (well, had to, since I'm determined not to read to him again) reread them from the beginning to catch the semblance of a point - only to forget it again as I approach the period. And as hard as I try, I cannot find his twisted forays into the gutters of human nature brilliant - I find them overbearing, superfluous, and - I'm sorry - boring. Does it really take that many pages to describe a walk up a few blocks??

On the other hand, I find Tolstoy's words beautiful and relevant. From Natasha's adolescent anxieties to Pierre's mental monologues to Bolkonskiy's torments - every word is necessary because it not only conveys a feeling, but builds that world. I love how he pins the glitter of the ballrooms against the torture of thought and moral battle that was an almost exclusive privilege of the aristocracy in 19th century Russia. I love his ability to juxtapose all of that^ against the clichéd "simple life on the land", and I love that he manages to uncliché it.

To me, the whole War and Peace is like a constant, painful search for meaning; it's a never ending "why, why?!", and what does he conclude, after hundreds of pages? Mu. We are Russian. We have our land.

You would have to read a whole lot of Russian classics to get a feel for how Russia was then, an understanding of why our history went the way the it went for the next 100 years as complete as you can get from War and Peace. Tyutchev said "You cannot understand Russia with your brain", and if you read War and Peace, you will probably at least begin to see why.

Now that I've managed to get completely off-topic, may I also recommend Pushkin as the writer most revered by Russians, and most incongruously overlooked by Westerners?
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yanka wrote:
Now that I've managed to get completely off-topic, may I also recommend Pushkin as the writer most revered by Russians, and most incongruously overlooked by Westerners?


Can't I just read Kafka instead? Razz
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This may be the wrong time to vote, but I did vote for Crime and Punishment. Dostoevskiy may be dark and at times longwinded, but Crime and Punishment is surely worth a read if only because of Raskolnikov. One of my favorite characters of all time.

That said, don't neglect your need to read Frankenstein and The Stranger. Just read Crime and Punishment first.

Edit: Just to add my own two cents to yanka's point (spurred on by a mention of Kafka) Pushkin, at least to me, is a hilarious writer only because of his irony, but loved as he may be by the Russian people, we don't love him as much because we know that he just isn't as good as Dostoevskiy or Tolstoy. And Kafka rocks too. *cough* Edit again: So does Nabokov for that matter.
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ahh, i meant that people often use "war and peace" (in several movies, jokes, sitcoms etc) to mean a lengthy book to read (and often taken on holiday, and never read!) and so I've come across that people associate that when i talk about Crime and Punishment too - hence my warning, it wasnt a comparison of the writing.

Im sure its a good book, however, i've not read any Tolstoy, but i do love Dostoevsky. I'm reading Brothers Karamazov 2 at the moment.

No idea why westerners prefer D to T, probably mainly because the writers dont come from their country, and so have a different approach to them?
But again, im dumb when it comes to books, and i find that the more you talk about a book, or the more you recommend a good book to a friend, the less it makes an impact? Thank god for simple polls on forums Smile

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Marrec wrote:
... we don't love him as much because we know that he just isn't as good as Dostoevskiy or Tolstoy.

Omg, don't say that to MEEEEEE! Shocked Take it back, take it baaaaaaaack!!!!

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So does Nabokov for that matter.

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Yarg! I've said to much and warped yanka's fragile little mind. Erm, what I meant to say is that we THINK they are better than Pushkin. Yeh. That doesn't make it true. Even if it is true.

yanka wrote:
Ah. Figures...


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I voted for the Graham Greene for several reasons:

(1) NO ONE in high school AP English has ever heard of, never mind actually READ, Greene...they usually don't spring him on you till college. In fact unless you watched THE QUIET AMERICAN with Brendan Fraser when it came out a few years ago I doubt you've heard of Greene at all. So just THINK of the opportunities you will have to bluster your way through several essays and papers that few if any of your fellow stoodents could "call" you on.

(2) Anti-colonialist, yo. No writer on this list is QUITE as relevant as Greene is, to today's political situation.

(3) "Fun With Dick And Jane" was not an option listed on the poll.

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