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[aliendial]

Working throughout the night near the end of the game, Elan Lee (I don't remember if he had help) constructed this thing in two colors of clay. We think sleep deprivation made this seem like not such a hard puzzle to fling at the cloudmakers. He then made a 2D map of his creation (see previous page in this thread) and posted it as the Beautiful Land puzzle.

Despite many cloudmakers with all kinds of 3D modeling programs and many more with actual clay, they could not reproduce Elan's work from that map until told the answer.

If you shaped all the clay per the map (shape and height and using 2 colors as indicated), and looked at the resulting landscape from sea level from one direction, you (allegedly) could see the word "Founder", which unlocked - lemme think - an encrypted message from Cloudmaker (the boat) tying up some of the plot. [So yeah the required "view" was not from above as the PXC card states but from the side, but I still think it has to be Founder.]

See
http://cloudmakers.org/guide/index4.shtml#10.1founder

Another concern - it depends what you call a "solve" - another character was used to post a much simpler clue to the word founder so the puzzle was sort of solved, if backwards. So it's not like it was never solved.

It is true, however (as noted above), that the one puzzle never solved in the Beast involved the Ghaepetto girls, whose names were on several game website WHOIS information pages. Actually they had been noticed, and the reference to Gepetto (the maker of Pinnochio) commented upon and people tried to make something out of the girls' first names etc etc, but apparently no one ever found whatever the puppetmasters intended with these clues. At least that's my recollection. I thought Sean or Elan said in a post game chat that it was just a little puzzle anyway and not to bother. If that's what this card is after, what would the "view from above" be on THAT puzzle?

Oh and PS I tried a few variations using "maintained guides" to no avail. And if it isn't Coroner Sweborg I'll eat my hat. None of those other names are famous. Or feared.

And fuzzy is not fruity unless he is fuzzymelon2000, so I vote against fm2k.

[Kvasir]

[Juxta]

Um...isn't it the 2140's...which would make it, the 22nd century. Just like when we hit Y2K, we were "on the verge of the 21st century". Also "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century", his ship launched in 1987, he was then lost for 504 years, awaking in 2491...


...or am I just in need of coffee?

J

N.B. It's Sweborg, it has to be Sweborg (or some similar combination) - how many other "famous" 22nd century coroners do we have knocking about? It's a card which references numerous previous ARG's and their events - the "Coronersweb.org/CoronerSweborg" mistake is a well known event.

[jamesi]

[aliendial]

chicken.

[Kvasir]

[Juxta]

[Ade1000]

Don't mean to be thick, but Coroner Sweborg was a play with words, in the Beast ARG. So we , the players would come up with the website coronersweb.org.

So surely we need to look at diff names?

So i'd say, as has already been said, that AD will prob eat his Hat!

And the last question. The cloudmakers solved the founders puzzle, they just got a bit more help with it than they should have!

Can't remember why i started this post now, but hey i'm sure my reasoning will come back to me

[Macavity]

Also, what about

[Ade1000]

Right here goes, this is the only card that i have that i haven't been able to solve. So i had a little chat with the folks at "cards....Perplexcity.com", we have collectivly got 9 out of the 11 questions right.

[Langley Moor]

All I've come up with for this one is a quote from an interview with a maker of this ARG, who, when asked what people missed, said:

'Surprisingly little. There are a couple of things out there, although they tend to be at a meta level... but you may want to take another look at the Ghaepetto registration addresses'.

I think therefore that this may be along the right lines - possibly another named puzzle hidden within the Ghaepetto puzzle?

[Ade1000]

Check out this Aint It Cool News Page www.aintitcool.com/tb_display.cgi?id=8659#276925 There is some mention of the ghaepetto puzzle. Thing is we can't just give a puzzle name, we need to do what the cloudmakers didn't/couldn't. To solve the puzzle!!!

There are also some references to the above puzzle at the cloudmakers yahoo message pages.

On another note this could be the wrong puzzle completely, it does say that it was one they missed?!?!?

[akhswfc]

Thikn we need to be lookin at the following sites on this pagehttp://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/cloudmakers/message/2349to access the sites you need to use http://'name of site'.cloudmakers.org

e.g. http://coronersweb.cloudmakers.org

[solitair]

OK, the question from 11 states

[Ade1000]

Retrieved this from their yahoo message board, Cloudmakers.