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[UPDATE] Orbicon newsletter issue2
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Animac
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Joined: 12 Aug 2005
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Hey guys. Also looked at the puzzles just now two things possibly of note.

1 - If you take the puzzles unsolved and look at them, the shape the numbers make in the grid looks almost rotationally symmetrical in both grids (i say almost cause there is always one cell in the grid which breaks the symmetry.) Coincidence?

2 - Looking at the edges of the grids you can see that some grid lines carry on slightly past the edge of the box, as if they were cut out of a larger grid (specifically the second grid looks like it could be the top right corner of a larger grid, and the first grid looks like it was cut of the right side of another). This could just be an accidental cut job from paint-editing, or might relate to a later puzzle.

Both could be insignificant, but always worth mentioning.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:52 pm
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2wicked
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Joined: 06 Sep 2005
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Location: Vermont

funny you should mention symmetry...
I just noticed that the solved numbers, when arranged in by the blocks in which they appear are:

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346
676
543

987
646
789

(with the exception of the 6 or 5 in the top group) drawing lines which intersect the center number will (almost) always make a palendromal number (reads the same fwd & back).
Could the first set be solved with the number 5 instead of 6 for the highlited number in the top right square?


Not sure what this means, or if it makes any sense at all, but I'll continue to ponder....

[update] Does this work for the first set?:

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278 563 419
531 294 876
469 871 253

157 489 632
643 752 981
892 316 547

985 637 124
726 145 398
314 928 765

This would make the above obeservation work in with all numbers, but I wasn't sure if I might have solved this incorrectly

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:00 pm
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RoLLiNg_sToNe
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Joined: 12 Sep 2005
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I think 2wicked is right...the number 5 can be replaced for the 6 in the top right box and the thing still works. that would make 2 palindromes then, or mirror images:

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345676543 for first box & 987646789 for the bottom box


Then it seems that the middle 4 in the second one could be replaced with a 5 as well, to complete the symmetry. then you'd have:

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345676543 and 987656789


yeesh.

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CherryMay
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Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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Animac wrote:
Anybody noticed how three of the yellow squares (top puzzle (middle-left, middle-middle, top-middle)) are underlined in yellow as well? Any significance perhaps??


I get the impression that those 'underlines' are unintentional... most of the yellow squares on the top grid have a white underline too, just on the very bottom of the yellow square, so it's harder to notice.
The top-right square of the second grid also has a white underline that's hard to notice.


EDIT: On the subject of 'likely unintentional', the wordsearch solution reminds me a lot of a grid reference. There are three sets of lines across what would be the 'X' and 'Y' axis, and lots of crossing lines in the middle, like a point on a graph (the centre of the 'diamond' shape being the spot), and orbicon subtitled underneath it by itself.
As I said, likely irrelevant, but who knows... maybe some similar grid'll pop up later?

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Artemis
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Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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Hello,

Has anyone had any luck with a possible password?

I've also been working on trying to take apart the art piece graphic on the newletter. The reason I think it might have some relevance is someone mentioned the lost charm from the bracelet was in both newletters and the art peice could be the grass with the bench Smile.

I'm still really new to this and havn't gotten very far and with the grpahic coming from .pdf I don't even know if I'm getting a real version of the .jpg. Copying it to the clipboard first has me a little worried. When using adobe reader I can't seem to do anything else.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:54 pm
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Animac
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Joined: 12 Aug 2005
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Currently I'm sitting on two theories.

1 - The solution to the suduko relates to the wordsearch somehow to provide a clue.

2 - We are missing a further piece of the puzzle that is to come in a later newsletter.

Perhaps quite obvious to say, but sometimes it helps.
Do we think that the fact the number solutions are palindromes has any significance? If so any ideas?

I'm not sure about stenography or crypto in pdf's happens much but at this point maybe everything is worth trying, or perhaps they are waiting until we have begun proper to give the final solution to the puzzle. If anyone has heard of tools for extracting hidden information from pdf's then please let us know, it could be useful.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:39 am
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2wicked
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Soduku

RoLLiNg_sToNe,

I don't think you can replace the middle number 4 in the second soduku with the number 5; it would conflict with the 5 that's given to us in the cell above it. However, the number 4 would still create a palendrome.
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