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[SPEC] The Navy Colt
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CoffeeJedi
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 		[SPEC] The Navy Colt
Just a MacGuffin? Undoubtably a plot device, but WHY was the Buyer so interested in it? And if they're different people, why is the Gambler interested as well? (of course, they might be the same person)

We already have at least 2 ghosts, one of whom knows HTML, and the other can at least play poker. Could the Colt be a facilitator between the worlds of the living and the dead?

Just one theory of course, any other ideas?
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 		The Colt being a bridge between the worlds was one of my theories as well. It does seem as if Lucky is making the dead stay and play poker, as I'm sure not everyone is as excited by hold'em as he is.

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 		Re: [SPEC] The Navy Colt
CoffeeJedi wrote:
Just a MacGuffin? Undoubtably a plot device, but WHY was the Buyer so interested in it? And if they're different people, why is the Gambler interested as well? (of course, they might be the same person)

We already have at least 2 ghosts, one of whom knows HTML, and the other can at least play poker. Could the Colt be a facilitator between the worlds of the living and the dead?

Just one theory of course, any other ideas?


Personally, I think it's much more than a McGuffin, as the Gun itself already has way too much of an identity to not have a specific reason to draw the Buyer's interest.

The gun is certainly more than a sentimental keepsake Wink. Connection between the living and the dead? I don't know about that, it seems like the poker games are doing that just fine without the gun Wink. Who knows.
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 		Perhaps the gun is shot off to start a game of tombstone hold'em and allow the folks in the graves to play as well? A sort of "wake the dead" starting pistol.
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RobMagus wrote:
Perhaps the gun is shot off to start a game of tombstone hold'em and allow the folks in the graves to play as well? A sort of "wake the dead" starting pistol.

so you think that Clay will be present at these live events?
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Better bring air freshener.


*snort*

I've heard the dead are quite odoriferous.
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 		Re: [SPEC] The Navy Colt
CoffeeJedi wrote:
Could the Colt be a facilitator between the worlds of the living and the dead?

In skilled hands, any gun can connect the worlds of the living and the soon-to-be dead...

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 		Good point Helper.

In the press release, it is said that Lucky got the seed money for his fortune from a hand of poker played at the end of WWII.

Perhaps this gun was part of the pot? And the "Euro-Roller" was involved somehow?
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 		Seeing as how we're speculating, I reckon that the history of the gun, and of Lucky, will play a crucial part in the unfolding events.

Let's take a look at what we know of Lucky's history. He was a member of the 101st Airborne division (the "Screaming Eagles"). He and his friend Jerry created Tombstone Hold 'Em as a morbid reaction to the liberation of Buchenwald. (Historical note: the 101st actually liberated Dachau, not Buchenwald. That grisly job was undertaken by the 80th Infantry.)

After Lucky's death, "The Buyer" approaches Robert to obtain the gun. After Robert's death, an man aged around 80 approaches Lucy to talk about the gun. Back in 1945, he'd have been about 20, a prime age to have served alongside Lucky. There's got to be more to Lucky's wartime experiences than we know, and I'm sure that the Navy Colt plays a part in them.

I've been searching on various combos along the lines of "jerry101" and "jerryeagle", but as yet with no success.

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cyberinsekt wrote:
Let's take a look at what we know of Lucky's history. He was a member of the 101st Airborne division (the "Screaming Eagles"). He and his friend Jerry created Tombstone Hold 'Em as a morbid reaction to the liberation of Buchenwald. (Historical note: the 101st actually liberated Dachau, not Buchenwald. That grisly job was undertaken by the 80th Infantry.)


Do we know for sure Lucky was with the 101st?

(Also, it was the 6th Armored who liberated Buchenwald, I'd thought.)

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cpip wrote:
Do we know for sure Lucky was with the 101st?

In his words: Once you know how to make the cards, you can play all kinds of games. Here's the one we used to do, me and Jerry against some of the other guys from the 101st.

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cyberinsekt wrote:
Back in 1945, he'd have been about 20, a prime age to have served alongside Lucky. .


Or against him.
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HitsHerMark wrote:
cyberinsekt wrote:
Back in 1945, he'd have been about 20, a prime age to have served alongside Lucky. .


Or against him.

When that Business Wire press release talks about "Lucky" coming back from WWII with enough money to "seed" a multi-million dollar fortune, I start thinking that maybe this famous poker hand is really just a cover for something more sinister. Either that, or he was stationed overseas with Privates Rockefeller and Getty.

For example: maybe the Colt wasn't used in a murder. It sounds like a pretty old gun, and, as a service man, Lucky would have had access to plenty better. Instead, it could have part of some European's collection, one that got looted during the war. If that loot somehow ended up in Lucky's hands, he could have sold the rest to fund his life, explaining the proceeds with his poker cover story, and kept the Colt as a souvenir. Now somebody wants it back, maybe to prove what happened.

Pure speculation, of course. But at this point, why not?

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 		The Colt Navy is, correct me if I'm wrong, a 19th century pistol. Cowboy era in fact. In WWII the Us Army sidearm was a Colt 1911, which is a .45 caliber automatic pistol.
The Wild West was also the birthplace of poker. Could the gun be some sort of poker artifact? That's why our heroine is so good?
It could even be the gun Wild Bill hickok had when he was shot...

Bit speculative but wtf. The gun's not 20th century though.

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