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[POKER] Sponsored Tournament/ARG Player?

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Re: A question

[krystyn]

There were 7 players invited for Sept. 28th's game, so thedealer (Lucky) could sit 8th.

Someone in-game's gotta play so they can give out info, right?

So the tournament of 7 is a full table.

FWIW, I am with rose - I am feeling that we should (sorry in advance) let the chips fall where they may.

The more people that get sucked into this ARG, the better, I say.

We here at this one forum are not the end-all be-all know-it-alls. There is an entire world out there, and I'd love it if we had all sorts of unknowns (to us) unlocking those cards.

[riemanns]

Are any of the players on the board ARGN readers/ players? I'm sandman btw. Could we formulate a list of information that we need and anyone who does make it to the tourny can try and get it?

(Don't want to jinx any chance I've got)

[Dr_Pangloss]

You know, the more ARG players that are in there, the more confusing it becomes. If all 7 people are asking seperate questions, then it gets chaotic...and little is learned.

There is a chance that people will be allowed to watch the game...and you can still ask questions while you are watching. Actually, that's more productive since you don't have to play cards and deal with the clues at the same time.

And as for all the J.J bashing...he's quite a nice fellow. He let me win a TON of his chips last night (although I lost them all again to someone else...hee hee hee) and he's genuinely confused by all this hatred towards him. It's a game...and he's playing it the way he likes. He doesn't understand why everyone is so upset with him.

The clues will come out in the ARG. The PMs are not going to let something slide just because one guy bets stupid-mad all the time and has a lucky streak that would choke a horse.

[krystyn]

It was interesting to me that thedealer didn't really actually respond with informative answers to the barrage of questions he got during the 9/28 game. He just sort of ended up dropping info. Many of the general, prodding questions were sort of dodged or brushed off.

It might be good to pull back in future games, to "act natural" (YOU! Act natural! Now!), and let the poker game play out literally, as well as metaphorically.

I'm not saying anyone has to do that - but that's my impression after sitting in yesterday's game.

[rose]

more nattering on

[krystyn]

J dot J may save children from burning buildings and cats from trees, but I still stand by my assertion that going all in before the flop on a regular basis is assy behavior.

Otherwise, I am sure he is a fine, upstanding individual!

[Dr_Pangloss]

Re: more nattering on

[KradDrol]

[krystyn]

That may be the trend, and I can accept that, but my opinion still stands: with fake chips that reset every week, going all-in pre-flop on a regular basis just to amass chips is obnoxious. To me.

I am still learning the game. I'd like to be able to play it. You know?

[SuperguyA1]

don't see a problem

[rose]

learning to play.

[HitsHerMark]

On most other sites, players not able to play in a particular table of a tournament are permitted to watch.

I don't see whey this would be any different.

[StarkRavingMad]

I guess it depends on how closely the PMs are monitoring the site and whether they care about cheating. Obviously, if someone jumps by 100k in one night, it might raise a red flag, and they can check hand histories. If it's something obvious like everyone going all-in except for 1 chip and then folding, they can see we're just consolidating group power.

However, I'd propose a different solution than just handing out the money. Why not have a ARGN-specific mini tournament right before the reset? We'll play loose and bet big, winner take all. This is assuming we can create our own "private" tables, which I'm not sure about. Alternately, I guess we could just grab a table or two with no one else on them, and not give up any spots.

Right now, to get in the top 7 spots, you need to beat 136.5k. For a one table tourney to yield that much money for the winner, we'd need around a 17k buy-in per person. Do we have 8 people with that much cash? I have just under 25k, so I could offset someone with around 8k for that much. It doesn't really matter that much on a per-person basis, so long as we could get 137k-ish in the prize pool.

Alternately, we could have a 2-table tournament, consolidating into one table when the players drop enough, and then we'd need 16 players with around 8.5k each.

I think doing it as an actual tourney (as opposed to just blatantly giving the money up) would better fit the spirit of the game. Especially since we know there's a chip reset, I don't think it would look too strange to the men in charge if a group decided to hold it's own tournament on the night before a reset. Money poker sites have "satellite" tournaments that roll into bigger tournaments all the time; in fact, that's how Moneymaker got into the WSOP two years ago.

This would also have the added bonus of getting one of our strongest players into the winner's circle tournament, since he'd have to be pretty good at least (or really lucky) to clean out everyone else.

Aside from doing it that way, I'm not sure I'm totally down with just giving chips to one person. It would be kind of a big step outside the game design, in my opinion...I'd probably just keep my chips and try to make a big suicide push on Friday night to hit the leader board on my own before the reset.

As for JdotJ, I was at the same table as Dr. Pangloss last night and J.J seemed a nice enough guy. He plays aggressively, but that can work against him when he runs into the wrong hand. I don't think he'll be as high on the standings next week as more people join up that are actually decent poker players; I think he probably got in early and took a lot of money from bots or from people without any experience playing against maniac betters. Note that he's fallen from 550k to around 480k already. Of course, there's also the chance he's playing REALLY loose and easy right now because his chip stack is so high, it's totally play money for him to sit down at a 10k buy-in NL. I mean, he could stop playing for the rest of the week, and he'd still make the leader board tourney at this point. And it wasn't like he was going all-in every hand; I think I saw him do it 5 or 6 times over the course of 3 hours or so.

I love it when people go all-in before the flop. I never do it myself, but man, do I ever love sitting at a table with someone that does. I know when he's got a good hand, and I can fold and get out of the way. What's the worst that happens, he takes my blind a couple times? He pushes out my hand that's probably second-best to whatever he's got? I get bluffed out a couple times with a hand that I didn't have confidence in anyway? Sooner or later, he's going to pull that move when I'm holding a monster. It's just a waiting game, and I'm going to nail him hard when he pulls that move at the wrong time. The odds always come around in the end. I'd much rather play against a guy who goes all-in pre-flop, than against someone who is going to slowplay AA and totally sucker me in.

The only way the all-in guy can beat you is if you let him get into your head. If you're sitting there thinking "What is this jerk doing, I can't believe he keeps going all-in, I hate him so much!", he's got you. Look at him like a big old pile of free money, just waiting for you to come take it at the right time, and he's yours. If you start getting pissed off about it ("on tilt"), it's time to jump tables and play limit for a little while until you cool off.