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[Spoiler] [New Website] The Receda School of Music
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Bixter
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Hi guys, sorry. This is my first ARG, and I though I read that domain searching and stuff was part of the game, being in reality and all. I certainly don't want to ruin anyone's good time and will be more careful in the future.

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Bixter wrote:
Hi guys, sorry. This is my first ARG, and I though I read that domain searching and stuff was part of the game, being in reality and all. I certainly don't want to ruin anyone's good time and will be more careful in the future.


It's not your fault, blame MC for making it available. we don't even know that it led from a story arch. A *cough* drunk person told us there was were plenty of in game websites that we hadn't found yet, this may be one of them.
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European Chris wrote:
A *cough* drunk person told us there was were plenty of in game websites that we hadn't found yet, this may be one of them.


What amazes me is how that drunk person knew so much about pxc! Must've been some kind of lucky guesswork I suppose...

(secret-knowing-wink x2, knowledgable-nudge x4)
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Who are ya talking about, Jey?
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Talos D'Loristo
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awww man... Tuesday's the one day of the week where i have to work and get drunk. Crying or Very sad decisions, decisions...

but i do agree it feels slightly "Dirty" to be here with this info without finding it the right way... this is my first tyme though... but it's like something happening with the lights on and realizing that someone something with some balloon animal.. something... blah...

Star, Power, music<?> any spec that these are all pieces to a bigger chunch of puzzle? I have chapters of chapters on Agrippa's Associations of Musical Notes onto the scales of music and what powers are brought forth from them... It'd fit, in a way.

Also, Isn't Ode to Joy the one that was supposed to show the secrets of the universe? the 9th, right? .. on his composition notes he had bits of egyption hieroglyphs and translated english to some profound statement...

i think that's all the noodly stuff i have at the moment.

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Star (stellar) - Power (forceful) - Music -

Relative or not - I keep thinking of

"Also sprach Zarathustra" by Strauss - a powerful song used in 2001: A space Odessey (the movie) were a new star is born....

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Juxta
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Rob_Riv wrote:
Who are ya talking about,*****?


European Chris wrote:
A *cough* drunk person told us there was were plenty of in game websites that we hadn't found yet, this may be one of them.



"Discretion"
1: Freedom to act or judge on one's own
2: Knowing how to avoid embarrassment or distress; "the servants showed great tact and discretion" [syn: discreetness, circumspection, prudence]
3: Refined taste; tact [syn: delicacy]
4: The power of making free choices unconstrained by external agencies [syn: free will]
5: The trait of judging wisely and objectively; "a man of discernment" [syn: discernment]


Clearly, there are obviously going to be any number of ingame websites that we haven't found, I would imagine primarily due to the fact that they have yet to be released into the wild. We can only guess at how many sites are waiting in the wings, being prepared for future puzzles. As for "blaming" Mind Candy for releasing it...well, they obviously have to be set loose at some point for us to find them - however, that should be through puzzles, (aka The.Point.Of.The.Game, or at least a reasonable chunk of it) *not* via WHOIS lookups.

In the meantime, unsubtle allusions to "Ooh, X let this info slip to us" or "Y told me such-and-such" is, to coin a phrase used previously in this string, pretty "lame". To me it just smacks of snotty-nosed kids running round the playground telling tales on one another.

I think the whole string of posts is a good example of why, as much as PM's need to keep InGame and OutOfGame information separate and try not to let the two mix - so do players. Bixter made a mistake, he/she apologised, lets just get on with things and not compound it.

My caffeine deprived opinions are not representative of anyone else, please do not take offense,

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I must concur, J.

1) Yeah, it's a particularly naff way of finding websites, but good form on Bixter to take it back. It's one of the finer points of ARG ettiquette, and this hasn't been the first thread of the sort (although I shall refrain from linking to 'em, for obvious reasons.)

2) Regarding indiscretion, much as I'd like to make this whole conversation STOPPITY STOP STOP STOP, I think that's a total mischaracterisation and context-stripping of a brief and straightforward conversation on the unsurprising truth that occasionally players miss clues in ARGs, a conversation that certainly didn't reference anything as specific as "websites" and shouldn't be considered a clue or hint in any way - it was certainly nothing so secret that I haven't heard most of the MC'ers talk about similar things (at ARGfest, Cubefest and so on.) Regardless, I still feel it's rather bad form to repeat this kind of thing because informal, insubstantial comments acquire the gravity of a RUMOUR!!1!!one!! through such a process. I think it's a credit to the PM's that they've been so open and receptive to the player community, and it's stuff like this that jeapordises that relationship.[/i]

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This is my first ARG, too, so I'm finding this thread really useful (as I would probably have done the same as Bixter - if I'd known how to!).

So on etiquette - does this mean we shouldn't really act on what's been found - even though it's pointing to a date in the very near future, ie next Tuesday? Or does it mean we ought to redouble efforts to find the clue that will point us towards next Tuesday?
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the address tells us to Hackett (hack it) Smile
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GuyP
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Let's not hack anything, ever. Smile

However, much like the Pietro's Maze pseudo-debacle: "You've seen it. You can't un-see it." So yeah, let's just treat this site like we found it however we were meant to find it.

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SteveC
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Especially now as we don't appear to have any route forward from the "trail" that started at Biet Smile

Ever get the impression that they're overestimating the number of active players they have in parts of the world?

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Xar
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Hmm

I just popped in. I just wanna say, Regardless of the concequences... Good work uncovering a site. I know some people may say "awww i missed content" ... Well bah.

Inteligence tests usually end up this way. You are given a rubix cube and told to finish it in 20 minutes.

An idiot would fiddle with it for hours. A smart person smashes the cube on the table and reconstructs it.


I will not deny that some investigation was bypassed but Give the guy credit. This was a good find. I would not have considered Whois lookups to find a possibly nonexistant site. And he found one...

I mean we deal with all sorts of encryption and clever tricks to hide and obscure information from us. Some puzzles take many people just to chip a little piece of the puzzle away. Many of these puzzles are rediculously complicated like the pietro maze. And typically "Should" be brute forced, "hacked".

Any one who thinks that hacking isnt part of the game is leaving a huge avenue of puzzles out of the game. Encryption breaking is a type of hacking and there is a Silver puzzle of that type.

I guess my point is, dont rag on the guy. Just tell him to put sites like these in the SPOILER
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SPOILER tags. Thats what they are there for. He used a method to find some inside information. I say his only mistake is leaving it in the open for everyone to see.


So Bixter, Way to dig man. Good net hunting skills.

Take from this, an idea of how touchy people can be when it comes to spoilers and you will do fine.

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Re: Hmm

Xar wrote:
I just popped in. I just wanna say, Regardless of the concequences... Good work uncovering a site. I know some people may say "awww i missed content" ... Well bah.

Inteligence tests usually end up this way. You are given a rubix cube and told to finish it in 20 minutes.

An idiot would fiddle with it for hours. A smart person smashes the cube on the table and reconstructs it.


Um. Right. So...next time I read a mystery novel, I'll just skip to the final page to discover that "the butler did it".

Glad that I know how to handle movies now too, why waste two hours of my life - I only need to pop in for the last five minutes to see how it turns out! Score! I saved myself an whole 115 minutes of...erm...oh, yes...challenge, mental exercise...and enjoyment...

If you really advocate sidestepping the puzzles on the way to finding the solutions in this way, I'm kinda puzzled (no pun) at what you're doing involved with ARG's. If the challenge was to find the website using specific "net tools", as were used in this case, then fine, of course it's a valid method. However, it wasn't, and just because one of the mediums with which the PM's communicate happens to be a website, they have to actually sort out the "background" stuff to make it live before giving us the clues- otherwise we would have nowhere to be directed *to*.

I'm not even going to dignify your allusion to those of us who actually want to enjoy the puzzle element as "idiots" with a response.

J

N.B. Bixter, I'm in no way having a dig at you on this - it was a genuine mistake, they happen, nobody died, and nobody will hold it against you

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Hm. Well, Tuesday is soon to be upon us, and still no solve for the Long Island coordinates clue. Should we just move ahead with this one and visit the site Tuesday evening for the next step? Confused *still befuddled by the sleep therapy adventure*

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