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[Law of Five]

[13books][REAL-WORLD STATEMENT][7 days]

[angel2k10]

well' i don't quite know how to follow that. All i can say is that from my point of view this just started cos of a chance web serch which took me to LL and eventually led here. I think everyone gets something different from this and it's up to u to decide how u give ur time or express ur opinions. If anyone is feeling dispondant or giving up fair do's just don't drag the rest of us down with you. Even if the game goes under (and who says it will)i've had a great time following it and the chat is such a good laugh full of a really great bunch of ppl. I for one truly hope this runs and runs cos if it does I'll be right here adding my "2 cent"

triskanipplemuffinology forever

angel xxx

[dem]

[kitkatgirl]

Ah foooooey....I have to be honest and say that I got the impression almost from the start that this game hadnt been particularly well thought out and was more or less just reacting to what was being posted here.

Cant say Im not disappointed though...it got off to such an exciting start!

I'll keep looking in over the next few days, but my heart isnt really in it any more.

Is my pc playing silly beggars again or has half of Book Zero gone from the Trisk site?

[Law of Five]

Hey, Kitkatgirl, What about ye, mucker? Are you up to yer uxters in the shuck? [Ulster-Scots]

Yeah, I'm sad too. I've had a good time, learned some fun facts and made some fast friends, but it seems to be winding down now. Check Moongazer's posts over at the Book Zero thread for a considered view. I'd really encourage others to read my whole post carefully, have a look at the URL provided above for the 'Molly' ARG that died and consider the parallels between that and 13books, rather than responding with the usual "You bastards, you can't kill my 13books!" knee-jerk responses.

Here I stand, I can do no other

Law of Five

"I know things that have been forgot. I know things that will never be forgot.
...
But, you know, I know when it's over."

EDIT: not accusing anyone of knee-jerking here at all...

[angel2k10]

who's knee jerking why should it end just cos there's no 13 books doesn't mean there can't still be ppl who liked it and would like to keep up links with new ppl. We're not children throwing our toys out the pram

[moongazer]

Law - I see you've read my contribution on the matter. I rest my case, and cannot really add more, except to say thank you to you for all the sterling work you have put in along the way.

I came here from LL, where I used to look at Graeme's Point & Click Games, and found Triska there on the first day. Knew nothing about ARGs and just started reading. I watched in awe at the beginning when clever people were dissecting source code, flash, etc. (not being a techy person), but then found I could do some research via google on the literature clues etc. and was really enjoying following the puzzle element of it.

However, once I saw that half the clues were leading nowhere, or we were supposed to mind-read them, it began to get tedious, and for now I'm just tired of all the waiting around/going up blind alleys/pursuing wild goose chases, to no satisfactory conclusion.

I will keep looking in, in the hopes that something interesting will happen, but I fear my enthusiasm has eroded; and, of course, even if 13 Books does get back on track, we now have the fear that it could collapse/lose its way again somewhere down the line, possibly after we have devoted considerably more work and time to it.

In addition, I always felt a little sceptical, considering the amount of work on webpages, research on links, books, etc. that has apparently gone into just this first stage, that this standard could possibly be maintained throughout a journey of 13 books. One would have to have an exceptional amount of time to sustain it at this level, and considerable resources to travel around the world planting books in America, India, etc. as we are led to believe is the aim.

Just my 2 cents worth

[Law of Five]

Dear Moongazer

Your eloquent post sums up the views of a lot of us here. Couldn't agree more.

Law of Five

[Abraxas]

Law...you frigging drama queen!
Just kidding.

I see that my name drops in your tirade...I'm not one who clings to this as I was just about in the process of catching up (for what it's worth) and I haven't got the chance to tell whether or not I like it. The only thing I can say for certain is that I don't/didn't like to dig through ballooning threads. For someone not entirely devoted to this game in the first place it was simply impossible to keep track...

I just pointed out some words of warning not to be the first to be rash, because it seems like - especially - you went from the highest high of hyperactive clue-searching to the lowest low of disillusionment and anger because of the time you wasted on this oh so disrespectful PM.
Frankly, for a by-stander like me you are the Triska-equivalent of Jekyll and Hide.
Let's be honest, who are you more angry at, Iz or yourself?

For the clues that were out there and the links made - whether or not they served any purpose - you were truly the most active person and most likely you got the ball rolling more often than once. For this I say, good job!

PS: Why don't you go with the 13 days in honor of Triskabiblios?

@dem
I have to say it's not UF's fault if anything went wrong here. Most of the people involved in 13books only recently registered at UF just for this game alone. Somehow, people here refused to moderate a Triska section as they saw in the beginning where this might end and in what state the whole thing has been - ask Rowan, she'll tell you. Judging from the current mood they seem to have been on the money. Apparently they changed Triska back from ARG to Game and I bet that happened as a consequence to the general wild-mood-swings in here.

Regarding Molly's:
That's a good example, Law. Personally, I had some fun with the maps and the clues involved as you can see for yourself, but it got heavy on numbers with very confusing clues and OOG slip-ups so that I decided to quit. A day later Molly aka Jade blew the whole thing and I - not having a lot of experience in ARGing, yet - appreciate the way she's done it. It wasn't that bad of a start after all and I'm sure she'll one day return with a more carefully planned project.

[Withe Bartbi]

[MountainGirl]

I for one do not understand why Triscal continues to try and chat in the chatroom if he knows the rules ban him from doing so. It would be just as easy to get a free yahoo or aim messenger account and chat there. I know I always open both messengers whenever I am checking the forum (except here at school of course). HINT HINT.... I made a forum without rules per request, and Triscal nor Toby have posted anything there. Toby13 signed up as a member, but has not been active.

I'm am still too curious to give up yet. Some decent correspondence would be very helpful to the overall sense of well-being about the game, though. Much more of this and I fear I too will become as jaded as Law.

I do not feel abused, merely confused. Come on Iz clear up the confusion already.

Blessings Abound!

[Law of Five]

Fair comment Abraxas, and thanks for not flaming me. I'm just trying to say what a lot of others are thinking. The people on chat didn't elect me to this role, I'm just doing it off my own bat, so please don't blame anyone but me. And fair comment on my own behaviour: hell hath no fury like an obsessive scorned! We all bring our selves to the table, like it or not. I don't feel I'm doing the Henry Hyde thing at the moment, as I'm clearly not anti-13 books (I'm not saying F**K YOU TOBY, DIE DIE DIE), and I see myself more as a slightly disappointed version of Dr Jekyll. If Toby can get his shit together, I'll be following along again as keenly as ever, as I think the whole 13books thing is a great, imaginative idea, spoiled by poor implementation and unrealistic expectation on ALL of our parts. But I digress: this isn't about ME, it's about US. If you have an opinion on all of this, it is a REALWORLD thread, so you won't obscure any in-game info if you get posting. Anyone else who was there last night, feel free to provide your own angle - don't take my word for it.

Oh, and Angel:

why should it end just cos there's no 13 books doesn't mean there can't still be ppl who liked it and would like to keep up links with new ppl

I am one of the ppl who liked it and I would like to keep up links with new ppl I met, including you. So there.

Law of Five

EDIT: Sorry, Withe, I must have mistaken your lack of objection for acquiescence. I thought we had a consensus, but maybe not. There were certainly some of us who agreed with the 7 day thing (but I won't say who, for fear of breaking a confidence). You know, Withe, I really respect you: perhaps your caring approach will salvage something I cannot.

[sollune]

I agree with Law.
A week is all i'm waiting. (I've been getting tired of it since the whole old/new london map thing and was actually planning to stop on sunday if nothing good happened by then. but yeah, a week is good.)
I do hope it gets better in the meantime cause I had lots of fun with the game (learning new things, making new friends, etc. etc.)

btw, Law, you said, While we were in chat, someone called 'Triscal' tried to break in several times, and he was banned each time
Unless he tried again while I wasn't in #13books, Iz hasn't broken in since the 14th. What I think you're thinking of was Rowan realising that he broke in on the 14th and attempting to ban him.

Also,

[Withe Bartbi]

[MountainGirl]

**Mountain Girl opens arms to initiate group hug