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[Abraxas]

@sapagoo
The events range from the Friday that Pete Schwimmer was knocked out in the Four Deuces - and Richardson aka Hart arrived, I think - to the Wednesday of the next week when Armageddon Jones and Pete Schwimmer say farewell to each other on the station platform.

The poker game on Guzik's page takes place right after One-eyed Mickey broke Anita's fingers (the sobbing from upstairs, Ross shows up and I think he mentions having been with Anita upstairs). So that's Friday night, then.
And that's the 18th, same time the telegram arrived, alright.

That means, after Armageddon Jones snatched the bearer bonds and ruined McGurn things got really dark the next day. McGurn is planning something on Tuesday night at eleven.
Poor Baby.
Did something happen on that day? Or was it just for tracking down Strauss?

There's something I just don't understand...supposedly, Ross is shot by Richardson/Hart/Capone on Sunday, but when McGurn and Guzik have their conversation about the missing bonds on Tuesday Guzik says, I quote,
"Who'll back you up? Ross? Forget it, Jack. Get Al his money and stop all this crazy talk. Maybe you need a break. Go spend some time with your girl."

Now...does he say this in mockery of the dead Ross - and he must be dead by then, if my assumption about a time period of Oct 18 to 23 is correct - or do they not know that Richardson shot him? How could they not know?
Am I wrong?
But then, I don't get it. Anita overheard the plan to kill Al Capone and told Richardson about it, who then confronts Ross on the next day - Sunday - and shoots him. Not right?

[thunderclap8]

Now that we've seen Wild Bill Hickok confirmed as an owner of the gun, I can't wait for him to show up as a character! Or he better, anyway...

In other spec, I'm betting that next week we'll get Colton White's story, to coincide with the release of Gun.

[aliendial]

with 3 more live events to go, I suspect we won't get to Colton White next week.

[Abraxas]

My guess is Dakota, 1884. Or some time earlier than that. After all, we read that Richardson/Hart/Capone got the gun in WW1, but we didn't go there and instead went to Mexico where we met Caldwell (the Texan RR mentioned).
Might be similar this time. We won't see Bierce again, but rather the guy who gave him the gun, who has to be PS - Kellie's father.

However, Bierce got the gun during a poker game so I'm saying that we will see him with PS on a table together next Saturday.

Wednesday, I think Kellie, Bierce, Caldwell and Hearst might play for the Gun (Kellie for her ranch, too). Although, in 1929 nobody played for anything, right?

[Shad0]

Re: Ambrose Bierce's Gun

[Abraxas]

@shad0
You are right, I forgot a few things. Another possibility, then:
Long Jim McGurk killed PS and lost the Gun to Bierce in a poker game.
But as you said, we don't have to expect they all say the truth. And if you ask me, McGurk sounds awfully fake to me (no offense to any McGurks out there).
Also, we don't know if PS is Kellie's father. Could be her mum, too. And her father is someone else.
[crazy spec]Her father is an O'Grady. And yes, she later was engaged to another one...so the Sullivan line would end right there with PS, Kellie's mother. Talk about confusing. I don't think - and almost don't hope - that will happen to be the truth.[/crazy spec]

[konamouse]

???
PSullivan -> Wild Bill Hickok -> Colton White -> miner (Long Jim?) -> Dakota Poker Game 1884

Or, Wild Bill Hickok -> Colton White -> miner (PSullivan?) -> Dakota Poker Game 1884 (Long Jim?) -> Caldwell -> ???

This is almost as confusing as the Family Tree(s).

[Shad0]

Re: Speccy McSpecspec

[konamouse]

JEB Stuart (Civil War, died May 12, 1864) ->
PSullivan (died 1875, Kellie said he was "killed" and the gun was taken) ->
Wild Bill (died 8-2-1876) ->
Colton White (1880's) ->
Miner (Long Jim McGurk) lost in Dakota Poker Game late 1880s ->
Bierce (known liar - did he really win or steal or kill for it, and when was this game - he said "about 30 years ago", did he own the gun for 30 years?) ->
Caldwell ("old Texan"?) ->
"Richardson" (Nebraska Lawman had it in 1929) ->
Hart Jr (had it in 1944, died WWII) ->
John Whitecloud (had it for probably less than a year, died 1945) ->
Maurice (had it for a few days in 1945) ->
Lucky ->
Lucy ->
Clay -> etc.

[Edited to correct & add dates, bold the names]

[Shad0]

Re: [SPEC] - The gun

[ruminatinmind]

I'm lookin and searchin and I don't know if anyone has noticed this but:

Has anyone noticed that John Smith Caldwell is Lucy's mother's (Janet's) mother's (Mary's) uncle John? Per the pic that Janet shows Lucy on the oneeyedqueen page and his card page?

That, btw, is some poor-ass grammar. sorry.

[ruminatinmind]

Going to trout myself on that last post--the pic was apparently how JohnSmithCaldwell was uncovered. Though the family lineage may still be helpful...

[Abraxas]

In light of the recent tournament and what Lucky said in there I change my former spec that we will go to Dakota Territory on Saturday. Anyways, we didn't go to WW1 just because RR got the gun from there, did we?
And I still can't find any proof that links WW1 to the gun...is that even true or just a rumor?

The Wikipedia article posted by Shad0 in the tournament thread seems to be a huge clue to new cards. Now I think we will go to Lincoln County, a few years before The Gun shows up on a table in Deadwood (?) where Bierce got it. Here's my theory on which cards will go with which archetypes:

The Kid - Billy The Kid (duuuh, I think I saw that coming some time ago, but thought it's too obvious)
The Sheriff - William Brady
The Banker - John Tunstall
The Killer - William Morton

This is only half of the players, but it's all I can get from it right now. I have another idea, but I'm not sure if those characters could cross each others way or if LCP would probably stretch a timeline to another one:

The Gambler - Wild Bill Hickok
The Drunk - Jack McCall
The Priest - ?
The Half-Breed - ?

I doubt the second part. But I think Shad0 found half of the players in that article.

[EGo]

[mapmaker]

I like the Johnson County idea, with a reservation. The one thing of note is that, so far, there has tended to be a coincidence of dates of significant events in the week of the time-travelling: for example, the 1945 week included the anniversary of the start of the Nuremburg trials, the 1929 week included the anniversary of Black Tuesday, and the 1914 week included the Day of the Dead.

While the Johnson County war may have had an event in the November 6th to 12th range, I propose that there may be another possible time travel for now: Atlanta, 1864. Why, MapMaker, do you think that? Well, JEB Stuart died in May of 1864 in Richmond, VA. November 11 was when Sherman started burning Atlanta. And we're going to Atlanta next weekend.

Of course, it is entirely possible that we go to Atlanta the week after. Sherman started his march to the sea on the 15th. We could be taken to Atlanta by the actions of our Atlantan (Atlantian?) friends. Or we might not go to Atlanta at all. I think, however, that if we're finding out what happened to the Gun post-game, we have a good shot at finding out what happened to it between JEB and Colton White.