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[Update] Scarlet Kite Oct 7
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ryandrew
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Hmm, if the sentinel haven't been contacted yet, how about this?
We contact Violet, just to tell her (annonymously!) to check via keymail that Scarlett is ok, just as a friendly family check up, because we want to make sure she is safe in the mountains.
This way, we can interpret what happened to Scarlett by what she tells her sister, ie if she tells Violet that she is fine and not to worry, then we know Scarlett is in moderate trouble but she will be fine. (not wanting to get her involved) but if Scarlett begs for immediate help then we know she was in serious danger. Also this way, we haven't betrayed her trust, as we haven't told Violet anything. Merely asked her to check up on her sister.

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erekose wrote:
...Every time we've told someone in PPC sensitive information we've regretted it. We don't know enough about the situation to start 'key mailing'...Scarlett is relatively unharmed, safe to a certain degree, and has an open communication channel with us.


I strongly disagree. As someone (I think it was Cassandra) pointed out earlier, timely Earthly intervention with Violet saved Sylvia Salk's life. Additionally, I don't think that we can take full for responsibility for Monica's death - after all, she was already frightened enough to virtually lock herself in her apartment and her presumed killer would appear to have dealt with both Holyoke and Piero without our input.

She has suffered memory loss (at the very least), we haven't heard anything from her in 5 days, and there doesn't seem to have been any communication at all from her boyfriend or other travelling companions.

We set Scarlett on this path by asking her to search Piero's desk and despite her apparent wishes to the contrary I really feel that we have an obligation to alert someone.

Having said that, I think Jakeo's cautionary approach is better than pitching it as a news story.

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I am relatively new to these forums, and understand that most of you are established 'perplexians' however I have a suggestion. Idea

Would a vote on whether or not to alert someone of Scarlett's predicament be a good idea?

I personally think we should wait at least a little while longer to see if Scarlett herself gives us any more info before running to the newspaper or something. Not least, to avoid Scarlett facing the same fate as Monica.

I have noticed that we are fairly split on what to do here and everyone has their own opinions and thought a vote might solve our problems.

what do you all think?

Edit: Although, despite all that, you are right about Sylvia's life being saved by Cassandra contacting Violet.
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I agree, though i also fear that by NOT telling anyone, she may be in a Monica situation.
I personally vote to alert Violet in the way a mentioned just above.

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Mokey Fraggle
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I vote to tell the paper.

Here are my reasons:

1. The paper will (we can assume) not get offended and shut down to us, so we run no risk of losing that source of information.

2. We do run the risk of angering Violet if she guesses (and she's rather smart) that we had a hand in Scarlett's adventure.

3. If we send a note to the paper from an anonymous email address stating that we have information one of their former employees/the daughter of Sente has been injured in a possibly dangerous area while hiking, then the paper will act. First, because they're a good newspaper, they will not run with the story. This isn't the Enquirer. They'll have to check out the information first. By checking it out, they will be checking on Scarlett for us. If they find something's wrong with her, we can only assume they'll contact authorities who can help (what other options do we have if she's in danger?), and, yes, publish the news.

4. We've been watching the paper for news of Scarlett's accident anyway. Clearly we believe that if Sente's daughter is injured in any interesting way, the story can't escape press. Might as well have that press be: Anonymous source tips Sentinel of Kiteway daughter's accident; Scarlett recovering at home.

5. I think if we choose to contact the paper, though, we should include as part of our anonymity request that they not publish the fact we are from Earth. Then, as far as PPC knows, Brede or someone from the train or anybody could have called the media.

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After reading Fraggle's post above, I have been convinced that contacting the Sentinel anonymously is probably our best course of action. Providing that they do check out the story before printing it, and that they hide the fact that the tip-off came from Earth.

If this is, what we're going to do, who is going to do it?
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i spose i should not be surprised by the speed that people want to tell the newspaper (sentinel) info they were asked to keep secret -- lots of untrustworthy people on earth Smile
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Re: [Update] Scarlet Kite Oct 7

hutchy43 wrote:
I'm writing this from a hospital bed. We've been taken to a facility in the Tanraga mountains...


...I have to go now. They say I ought to sleep. Please don't tell anyone else what I've told you. I'll write again when I can.


After reading Scarlett's message again, she just asks us not to tell anyone what she's told us, and nothing about telling someone where she is or what has happened to her.

Is this relevant or am I just clutching at straws?
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Ack. I highly, highly distrust the staff at the Sentinel. Please don't send anything to them. The public (ie, V, if he's out there and not already in the know) does *not* need to know that she's been anywhere near old Viendenbourg. Publicity about the Master's daughter being hospitalized won't help us. Also, I don't have proof that it's a Sentinel employee, of course, but someone went through Pietro's files, and perhaps even knowingly assisted in the cover-up of the Holyoke case.

I'd rather wait for another response, or tell Violet.

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Providing that they do check out the story before printing it, and that they hide the fact that the tip-off came from Earth.


Neither of which we have any reason to trust they will do.

I agree with Cassandra about the staff in the sentinel. Its a big newspaper, so the message/news is likely to hit a lot of ears in the process of finding someone who has the authority to do something about it.

Any of those ears could head off and make a big deal of it somewhere else.

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I most definitely do not trust The Sentinel. There is always bound to be someone on the payroll who we REALLY shouldn't trust, and when they print something, everyone in Perplex City who are our "enemies" if you will, will know where Scarlett has gone. This is why i think my suggestion at the top of this page would work out best. Just ask Violet to check up on her sister via keymail.
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I agree with ryandrew's suggestion. We should give an anonymous tip to Violet to check on her sister via key. I don't think the PPC Sentinel will pay attention to such an unreliable source of information. Besides, if Scarlett is in a safe place (be it a medical facility near the Tanraga hiking area) Violet should be able to locate her with no problems.

Otherwise, if Scarlett is in an unofficial sort of facility belonging to a secret organization or something, Violet will be able to find out, too. Let's just not tell Violet the whole story.

I think we must tell her. My reason: WE let a girl with a low sense of danger to go out alone with some friends (as if that would keep her safe from being caught by an entire evil organization), in a very remote area, not knowing what they could find, or if they could be captured by a sinister group operating in that area. And with a new guy that we don't know anything about (he could be working for an enemy faction, as far as we know). I mean, if there was a bunch of conspirators in the Tanraga area, what makes us believe that if they capture Violet, they will release her, or give her enough time to report back to us what she found?
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Not sure where I stand on this but it seems that we should try to ask someone to trace her key signal if she isn't going to respond to any addtional emails.

We don't have very many contacts that are tech saavy or have th resources though. Random anonymous letters also may coem accross as comign from crackpots when we start talking about Viedenburg

Possible contacts include

Kurt - but he would need to be convinced not to tell Violet - basically asking hm to lie to her

The Sentinel - not exactly the most trust-worthy perhaps

Sente - as above

The police women[ /i](forget her name) - may have been the leak in the K incident

[i]Kurt's buddy
at the Academy that did the Cube trace but we have no contact information for him - can we trust him?

Others?

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Yey, one person agrees with me anyway. Anyone else? I think we should act ASAP. we have already left her for almost three days. Im worried she may turn up dead!
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OK, could she (Scarlett) have made it any clearer? She said, and I quote, "Please don't tell anyone else what I've told you."

Now, what has she told us?

1 - She told us where she was going (Viendenbourg).
2 - She told us that she's in some kind of medical facility.
3 - She told us that she may have been injured.
4 - She told us about Allain (who could also be the old man).

Now, if we can't tell anyone any of these things (per her request), just what are you proposing to write to a) Violet or b) The Sentinel?

Please explain your logic.
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