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ItWasntMeISwear
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Area 17 is particularly boring


According to "alien" lore, EBE-2 arrived in April 1964 for the first "official" landing and contact. Location was a highly secured Area 17 at White Sands (not Holloman AFB) located just south of the present Shuttle landing site.

So, I wouldn't exactly say that it's "boring".

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How did we get from the map to Area 17, btw? Did she refer to the Google Maps shot?


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synapt1c11: We're 10 miles from 17.
synapt1c11: I think there.
djlilia: 17?
synapt1c11: 17
synapt1c11: the map


So, yeah... that's how we got there.

Also, I think that the whole "ID = phone number = Omega" was simply pure luck... however, there is no denying the fact that the ariel photo's name is "Omega", but backwards. That is something that the PM had control over and chose him/herself. So, I'm using that as the clue, rather then the "ID=phone number" thing.
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Abraxas
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Yes, certainly the number was luck and the omega thing is worked around it. I doubt it will get past the status of being a reference, because that would be ingenious, I guess. I mean, we have to assume that Molly signed up with the rough concept in mind and then only found this little "easteregg" as a bonus.

I wonder what "3 into 27" means. The original sequence of numbers - which seems incomplete judging the use of the slashes - went from 3 to 27. Not sure if that's all there is to it.

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djlilia
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I just had a weird chat with Molly, here's the log:

djlilia: Hey Molly
Auto response from synapt1c11: recognition 7.
synapt1c11: Hello.
djlilia: How are you doing?
synapt1c11: I'm fine.
djlilia: Who was at the door?
synapt1c11: It was Alpha.
synapt1c11: 3 into 27
djlilia: Alpha is he a friend of yours?
synapt1c11: He worked for the same company I did.
djlilia: What did he say?
synapt1c11: Someone's dead.
djlilia: Who is dead?
synapt1c11: He didn't say.
djlilia: And you have no idea who it is?
synapt1c11: I might. There's too many people to keep track of, who's safe and who's not.
djlilia: What does 3 into 17 mean?
djlilia: *27
synapt1c11: Math.
synapt1c11: Correlating with a puzzle.
djlilia: Well I suck at math
synapt1c11: 27 divided by 3.
djlilia: But you mean it has to do with this 3/14/56/43/27//// ?
synapt1c11: Yes.
djlilia: 27 divided by 3 is 7
synapt1c11: Nine times three is twenty-seven.
djlilia: See I told you I suck
synapt1c11: It's ok.
djlilia: Have you talked to Jez?
synapt1c11: Last night, we watched different Francis Ford Coppola movies.
djlilia: You and Jez?
synapt1c11: Yes. She was looking for a quote.
djlilia: For what?
synapt1c11: She said her friend was looking for it.
djlilia: What friend?
synapt1c11: Eight.
djlilia: Do you know Nine?
synapt1c11: He was murdered.
djlilia: But you said you didn't know it was who was murdered
synapt1c11: 43 days ago.
synapt1c11: Nine.
djlilia: What about the numbers 14 and 56?
synapt1c11: They're in there,
synapt1c11: you'll see.
djlilia: Friends of yours?
synapt1c11: It's all connected.
synapt1c11 signed off at 8:25:20 PM.

I'm guessing Omega is the company's boss or the killer. Razz

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Abraxas
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OK, 3 in 27 = 9, I figured that much.
Please don't tell me this is about weird numberology...I loved the mapwork, it was very interesting, but crazy stuff about numbers...and the people are numbers, too...that's way too confusing...

@Rogi Ocnorb
Maybe you could post a comment on the LJ about the irrigation fields you found? 19 shouldn't be coincidence.

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Rogi Ocnorb
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Well, if 3*9 = 27 then continuing that sequence would give:
3/14/56/43/27/126/504/387/

Coppola Movie quotes:
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse.
Godfather
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
Godfather II
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.
Godfather III
About half of the THX-1183 script.

I'll do a post to LJ.
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Don't know if Molly had posted her e-mail before but here it is:
m_nazarSPLATbluebottle.com.

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Abraxas
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Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
Well, if 3*9 = 27 then continuing that sequence would give:
3/14/56/43/27/126/504/387/

I think someone deleted my reply...I asked you yesterday if you could please explain what you are on about. Smile

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Rogi Ocnorb
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Abraxas.
I just continued the sequence by multiplying the subsequent values presented by 9.
Molly appears to have given us 3*9=27
So I extrapolated that:
14*9=126
56*9=504
43*9=387

I could be totally off base with this and don't see what having that pattern gives us, but it seemed like the logical progression given her input.

I ran Molly's original string through the ATT Integer Sequences utility
http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/
and it came up with no matches.
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Ah, of course. 8 numbers...yes, it's reasonable to try that. But I have no idea what we might gain from that, either. Damn numberology! Laughing

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Rogi Ocnorb
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destroy

New post on Molly's page.
Jez left a note while Molly was sleeping:

"THEY'RE HERE.

alone in the mantle room out there with the FB 33 I, dedicated An Khe to their CO Fred the Head: The Rolling Stones' Satisfaction."

Edit:
Sounds like some Los Alamos scientists might have been her parents.
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cpip
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I tried to speak with Molly.

The Machiapippian (07:56 PM) :
Molly, are you there?
synapt1c11 (07:56 PM) :
recognition 7.
synapt1c11 (07:56 PM) :
Yes.
The Machiapippian (07:57 PM) :
I know what the note says, but not what it means.
Who is Fred?
synapt1c11 (07:58 PM) :
It was a number from a post I made a few days back. You had to hunt for it.
The Machiapippian (07:59 PM) :
Ah. I am late, then. I read your post today, which Jez left; I shall hunt.
synapt1c11 (07:59 PM) :
It's ok.
synapt1c11 (07:59 PM) :
Your screename.
The Machiapippian (07:59 PM) :
Call me cpip .
synapt1c11 (07:59 PM) :
HI.
synapt1c11 (07:59 PM) :
Your numbers.
synapt1c11 (08:00 PM) :
In your screename, I mean.. where'd you come up with it?
Logger's Note: Since Molly is on AIM, what she saw was my ICQ UIN, #18718333, rather than my ICQ Username.
The Machiapippian (08:01 PM) :
Oh. Random assignments. Cross-chat conversion, I'm afraid, from ICQ->AIM.
synapt1c11 (08:01 PM) :
Oh.
The Machiapippian (08:01 PM) :
It could a puzzle be, but I fear it is of the Hobbitish variety: unfair to another to make guess.
synapt1c11 (08:03 PM) :
871833311 was my number at work.. on company documents they'd refer to people as numbers.
synapt1c11 (08:03 PM) :
A little different from your screename, yes, but I thought I'd point it out.
The Machiapippian (08:04 PM) :
A close similarity, still.
synapt1c11 (08:05 PM) :
I liked being a number.
The Machiapippian (08:05 PM) :
There is comfort in it.
synapt1c11 (08:05 PM) :
One day I carried out an assignment.
The Machiapippian (08:05 PM) :
What assignment was that?
synapt1c11 (08:06 PM) :
It was to interrogate a man. It went too far.. .45, from three feet away. I couldn't speak for days.
The user has gone offline.

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cpip wrote:
I tried to speak with Molly.

The Machiapippian (07:57 PM) :
I know what the note says, but not what it means.
Who is Fred?
synapt1c11 (07:58 PM) :
It was a number from a post I made a few days back. You had to hunt for it.

Fred was a number? I don't get her.

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synapt1c11 (08:05 PM) :
I liked being a number.
The Machiapippian (08:05 PM) :
There is comfort in it.

Comfort? Confused
I guess it's important that she talks about numbers in relation to people.

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synapt1c11 (08:06 PM) :
It was to interrogate a man. It went too far.. .45, from three feet away. I couldn't speak for days.

Did she kill the man? Or did someone else get impatient with her interrogation skills? I'd bet on the latter, for the moment.

Regarding the note:
What is FB 33 I?
An Khe was a base camp in Vietnam.
The part about the Rolling Stones doesn't make any sense. Is this a crypto-clue?

Almost forgot the most interesting thing:
Molly: We changed a letter in our last name.
Could be nothing, but what could Nazar have been before?

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Rogi Ocnorb
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Regarding Molly's family name.
Robert N Lazar was an electronics engineer and his wife, Carol, was an electronics technician. I could find no references to any children, however.
Lazar did live in Los Alamos, Los Angeles and Reno and claimed to have worked in Area 51.
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Got It!!!

EUREKA, I found it... you may remember that a few posts back I mentioned that one of the sets of picture file numbers led me to a poster of "Apocalypse Now". Well, the quote that Jez left is from that movie:

Quote:
Zack Johnson: [radio announcer] And now here's another blast from the past coming out to Big Cind, all alone in the mantle room out there with the First Battalion Thirty-fifth Infantry, and dedicated by the fire team at An Khe to their groupie CO Fred the Head: The Rolling Stones' Satisfaction.


found here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078788/quotes
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Ah, stupid me...never occured to me to google the message in a whole.
Plus, the Coppola clue, I missed that.

The connection about Robert Lazar is interesting, especially because he lived in all those places - except Australia - Molly mentions.

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