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[Meta] QL Polaris [le Trout]
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MageSteff
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[Meta] QL Polaris [le Trout]

Am I the only person having difficulty quicklinking Polaris (Walter Reed) profile page?
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Re: [Meta] QL Polaris

Magesteff wrote:
Am I the only person having difficulty quicklinking Polaris (Walter Reed) profile page?


nope its been going on for a while now there was an earlier post sorry to trout
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Trout only works when you point people to the post which makes theirs trout. I can't find any previous post that talks about how Polaris can't be Quicklinked. (For the record, neither can Otto Griff nor Jerry Montaverde). Care to help us both out?
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Still can't quicklink any of them. Maybe it will be addressed in a later update. Here's the post RPGgame was talking about by the way.

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I think that the fact that we can't quicklink them is intentional.

[META] What's going on in 2005 is a participatory drama -- we can interact with characters, and so on.

But I'm reasonably sure that even though Lucky has redecorated the stage with some nice atmospheric WWII stuff, in the eyes of the game, we are still in 2005 (supported by the fact that the 2005 storyline is still progressing, parallel to the 1945 one).

The 1945 storyline is not a participatory drama. It's just Lucky telling us a story, of something that is already over and done with, that we can't affect. Our role in the 2005 storyline is to be involved and act, but our role in the 1945 one is simply to be an audience, and listen, and learn about the history of the Gun.

Therefore, we, in 2005, can't quicklink (or interact with) 1945 characters that aren't still alive/around in 2005. Only a few characters actually bridge both time periods -- Maurice and Lucky (and potentially Jerry, if he's the same as Jerry the family lawyer). However, as you'll notice, neither Lucky's nor Maurice's profiles have changed to the WWII theme, and Maurice's profile, despite the fact that he is alive in the 1945 storyline, and that his profile is updating, still says "dead."

Because, despite the fact that he was live in 1945, he's still dead as far as we're concerned, here in 2005.

(Also, I think the fact that Jerry has a WWII themed profile indicates that he won't be appearing on the 2005 stage.)
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Phaedra wrote:
Therefore, we, in 2005, can't quicklink (or interact with) 1945 characters that aren't still alive/around in 2005.
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Because, despite the fact that he was live in 1945, he's still dead as far as we're concerned, here in 2005.


Right, because we can't interact with dead people? Since that wouldn't make any sense at all. Oh, wait... Wink

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Ehsan wrote:
Right, because we can't interact with dead people? Since that wouldn't make any sense at all. Oh, wait... Wink


We can't interact with people that died before Lucky did. Razz
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Did all the 1945 people die before Lucky? Is that confirmed anywhere? Does he say something like "I am the only one who made it?" I don't recall that.

It is not clear to me. The profiles say alive, but I think that means the people are alive in 1945- as the story is being told - not now.

At any rate, I think we can't quicklink to them because the WWII part of the story is from 1945 . When we get information it is as if we are seeing it happen, live in 1945.

The 1945 people play no part in the current story of the Gun, Lucy's part of the story. So there is no reason for us to link to them.

ie- we can link to Maurice because he came back into the story of the Gun, none of the other 1945 people have.
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rose wrote:
Did all the 1945 people die before Lucky? Is that confirmed anywhere? Does he say something like "I am the only one who made it?" I don't recall that.


No, he doesn't. But I think that as far as the dead people that appear on LCP, the only ones we can interact with are those that died after Lucky did. (Characters like Paco, Victor and Kink.)

rose wrote:
It is not clear to me. The profiles say alive, but I think that means the people are alive in 1945- as the story is being told - not now.


Maurice's says "dead." Despite his being alive in 1945.

rose wrote:
The 1945 people play no part in the current story of the Gun, Lucy's part of the story. So there is no reason for us to link to them.


That was essentially my point.
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Phaedra wrote:
rose wrote:
Did all the 1945 people die before Lucky? Is that confirmed anywhere? Does he say something like "I am the only one who made it?" I don't recall that.


No, he doesn't. But I think that as far as the dead people that appear on LCP, the only ones we can interact with are those that died after Lucky did. (Characters like Paco, Victor and Kink.)



But we can QL people l(ike Lucy & Spider) - who are not dead yet. If Lucy dies then the reson for helping Lucky goes as well. Hence, we would not be meeting her around the Poker table.

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The 1945 people play no part in the current story of the Gun, Lucy's part of the story. So there is no reason for us to link to them.


That was essentially my point.


So, that means there won't be any updates later to these characters? We probably will not be interacting with Shaylee or Vaquero either, and there probably won't be any more updates on their pages [spec on my part], but we can still QL them.

Perhaps a better spec as to why we can't QL them would be that in 1945 they didn't have the internet yet. If there were any computer like devises, we are talking about very basic mechanical calculators and things like the Enigma machine.There were no punch cards, there was no Big Blue, or ENIAC. You can't quick link people who were never on the Internet.
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Magesteff wrote:
But we can QL people l(ike Lucy & Spider) - who are not dead yet. If Lucy dies then the reson for helping Lucky goes as well. Hence, we would not be meeting her around the Poker table.


We can QL live people in 2005, too, yes. Because it's possible that they, being alive in 2005, could come play poker on the LCP site, just like we're doing.

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So, that means there won't be any updates later to these characters? We probably will not be interacting with Shaylee or Vaquero either, and there probably won't be any more updates on their pages [spec on my part], but we can still QL them.


Yep, because they're alive in 2005 and could theoretically use the site. Unlike people in 1945 who don't have internet, and are in a different time period from us.

Magesteff wrote:
Perhaps a better spec as to why we can't QL them would be that in 1945 they didn't have the internet yet. If there were any computer like devises, we are talking about very basic mechanical calculators and things like the Enigma machine.There were no punch cards, there was no Big Blue, or ENIAC. You can't quick link people who were never on the Internet.


Well, that's the logistical explanation. But I think the narrative explanation is that the 1945 storyline isn't participatory. It's already done and over, even if we're just learning about it now.

The 2005 storyline, on the other hand, is taking place in 2005, and we could theoretically affect it.
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/me waits for Wednesday, when Jerry will come play poker and Phaedra's head will asplode Smile

I admire your suspension of disbelief Wink

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Ehsan wrote:
* Ehsan waits for Wednesday, when Jerry will come play poker and Phaedra's head will asplode Smile

I admire your suspension of disbelief Wink



Can we start a betting pool on that?
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QL lack fixed

The Three gentlemen in question can now be Quick linked... looks like just a bug that needed fixing....
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