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sapagoo
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In the Cartoon on Maurice's page
I'll take the rap , Father Mueller is saying a prayer over Johnny Whitecloud. This is just before Maurice kills the Father, and then Lucky comes in and takes the rap and the Gun.

The prayer that Father Mueller is saying in German is the "Prayer of Faith". His lines were from James 5:14. "Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord."

EDIT: who is watching the Gun change hands out of the window? Is that Otto's nose in the profile?

And how did Lucky get all the money, anyhoo?

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Re: boy or girl

rose wrote:
Polaris is adamant that it is a boy. Even after I asked if he meant the daughter. It turns out they are the same person. He would know as he knows the parents.

Respectfully disagree: I don't think Reed had realized that Martin was really Maria in disguise. For one thing, I doubt that he would have known the real names of his two fellow intelligence agents, Pherkad and Yildun. So Reed likely thought that there were two unrelated kids: the nameless daughter of the captured agents, who could have been anywhere, and Martin Halder, the nephew of the priest, Father Franz Mueller. He would have had no reason even to suspect that the two might actually be the same person.

rose wrote:
1945:
Sheriff - Svetlana
Killer - Maurice
Banker - Otto?
Kid - Martin
Half-Breed - John Whitecloud
Gambler - Lucky
Drunk - Reed
Preacher - Father Mueller

2005
Sheriff - Don McPherson
Killer - Kerry
Banker - Maurice
Kid - Matt Viet
Gambler - Lucy
Drunk - William Shiner
Preacher - Clay
Half-Breed - Spider or Corazon or Tony Viet

And I must mention that I added this page to the Wiki just last night. Hey, don't listen when they tell you that "fools think alike"; everyone knows that "great minds run in the same channel." Mr. Green
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It's a Disease
Seems to imply that M. Halder has ended up in LA where Luscy is. She is driving a 50-ish man from Poland who moved to the States when he was 14. The son of Mria/Martin perhaps? Henryk also dealt with scientific equipment.

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Southern California was blowing in the window. "I thought that my life would never get better," Lucy explained earnestly. "I really did." The guy in the back seat was entranced. Although she wasn't sure if it was because of her story or if he just couldn't believe a twenty-four year-old girl was talking to him. He was in his fifties and he did something with scientific equipment. He had been born in Poland, he'd told her. He'd come to the U.S. when he was fourteen. "When I divorced William, it got worse for awhile. I had nothing. I had to build my life back up. You'd know about that, coming from another country."

He nodded. "When we got here, we had nothin'," he said. He was from Pittsburgh.

"Well, you can't depend on an alcoholic," she said with real feeling.

"People say it is a disease," the man in the back seat said.

"Yeah," she said. "It took me awhile to understand that." Poor William.

"But now you have big break through! Your art is in a gallery in New York, and the university has asked you to teach!"

"Amazing, isn't it?" Lucy said.

"It makes you believe in redemption," the man from Poland said.

"It truly does," Lucy said.


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johnny5
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stomach contents (October 13, 1945) wrote:

<....>
A quick motion caught his eye. A couple of boys and a man—refugees who had been hiding in the ruined building. One of the boys saw Otto. "Father!" he hissed.

The man looked at Otto and saw something he didn't like. "Run!" he said, and he and the boys darted off, clattering through the rubble.

"Ernst," Otto said. "See what they know." The brothers hurried after them.

<...>


They turned up in a river (October 14, 1945) wrote:

"I heard about a murder yesterday. A man was shot."

"What happened?"

"No one is sure. The police have been asking questions. I, of course, know nothing about it."

"What did they do with the bodies?"

"Bodies, Captain? I said only a man was shot. But perhaps I do not understand English as well as I should. Actually, you are correct, there were two bodies. A man and a boy. They turned up in the river this morning and no one can identify them."


Help me out here you rememberators. This implies that one "boy" got away (martin? maria? other?). So would "Father" be the boy's father, or the preacher, or ???
/me is confuzzled.

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johnny5 wrote:
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Help me out here you rememberators. This implies that one "boy" got away (martin? maria? other?). So would "Father" be the boy's father, or the preacher, or ???
* johnny5 is confuzzled.


"Father" as in Padre, Reverend, Pastor, Priest.
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Then who's the floater?

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oh, ok, nevermind. It was albrecht and ernst

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rose wrote:

2. Svetlana extends her retirement based on information she received about the train. (really, I think it was because of the rumour of treasure she hears) (from where? Mueller?) Svetlana goes to meet Mueller in the Metropole. Instead she runs into polaris who she knew from earlier in the war. She plays cards with him.


Not quite. Svetlana knew that many of the russians who served with american troops, were going to be "liquidated" to prevent capitolism from spreading thoughout the USSR. However, even if she was not, her future as a woman in communist Russia was quite bleak (maybe she'd get a medal if she popped out enough babies), so she extended her retirement to stall for time. When she heard about the money, she tried to get fake documents to enter France or Germany and start a new life.
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j5 wrote:
oh, ok, nevermind. It was albrecht and ernst

Close.

Father Mueller, Albrecht & Martin Halder were the "three refugees" that fled from Otto, Ernst & Gunther at the Hanging. Stomach Contents

Otto sent Ernst & Gunther to find them.
We were supposed to find FatherMueller last week. If we had, we would have seen this Wrong Answer where Ernst & Gunther threaten the Father and the two boys.

Gunther pulls a knife and kills Albrecht.
Gunther grabs Martin.
Captain Whitecloud kills Gunther, and Ernst escapes.
Before Whitecloud takes Martin & Father to metropole, the Father gives Albrecht last rites, and someone (probably Whitecloud) dumps both bodies in the river.

Edit: under Whitecloud, we see him talking to Otto in They turned up where Johnny lets it slip that there are 2 bodies, when Otto only mentioned one.
So now, Otto knows Johnny knew about Gunther's death, and later we find out that Otto knows about Lucky & Maurice being at the Father & Whitecloud's killing. Otto knows more than he lets on.

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This update has been pretty large. If we would have found Mueller last week, that probably would have also given us Whitecloud. I just wish there was something warning us ahead of time about that hostage card game, I would have loved to have been in on that. There was alot of catching up to do after yesterday, so we must have missed some things on Sat.

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We couldn't find Mueller, because we didn't have that name. Right? Confused

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Astald wrote:
This update has been pretty large. If we would have found Mueller last week, that probably would have also given us Whitecloud. I just wish there was something warning us ahead of time about that hostage card game, I would have loved to have been in on that. There was alot of catching up to do after yesterday, so we must have missed some things on Sat.


thank goodness that happened or i would have never gotten to play.
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Abraxas wrote:
We couldn't find Mueller, because we didn't have that name. Right? Confused

Alas, we've had it since Simon delivered "Maurice's black book (October 14,2005)" to Lucy, c/o William. That explains why, for this update, the first thing that happened was a character (polaris) showing up to play poker, to nudge us into uncovering Mueller and Whitecloud, whom we should have found back on Saturday. Embarassed
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Shad0 wrote:
Abraxas wrote:
We couldn't find Mueller, because we didn't have that name. Right? Confused

Alas, we've had it since Simon delivered "Maurice's black book (October 14,2005)" to Lucy, c/o William. That explains why, for this update, the first thing that happened was a character (polaris) showing up to play poker, to nudge us into uncovering Mueller and Whitecloud, whom we should have found back on Saturday. Embarassed


You think? I tried FranzMueller and every variation (FrancisMueller, etc) on Saturday, but how were we to know he was a priest (FatherMueller)? Did we miss something?

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base2wo wrote:
Shad0 wrote:
Abraxas wrote:
We couldn't find Mueller, because we didn't have that name. Right? Confused

Alas, we've had it since Simon delivered "Maurice's black book (October 14,2005)" to Lucy, c/o William. That explains why, for this update, the first thing that happened was a character (polaris) showing up to play poker, to nudge us into uncovering Mueller and Whitecloud, whom we should have found back on Saturday. Embarassed

You think? I tried FranzMueller and every variation (FrancisMueller, etc) on Saturday, but how were we to know he was a priest (FatherMueller)? Did we miss something?

Err... rose said it best here. But briefly, yes, we did. Something in "Stomach contents (October 13, 1945)":

Otto Griff wrote:
A quick motion caught his eye. A couple of boys and a man—refugees who had been hiding in the ruined building. One of the boys saw Otto. "Father!" he hissed.

Bang Head Bang Head Bang Head
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