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misery_of_pain
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I'm currently talking to Jin. He was taken when he was working in Paris at a cafe in Bon Nouvelle. His brother was murdered after Jin left Japan for Paris. Both Anne and Jin's brothers owed people money, and their businesses were going under, that's why they got killed. I've havent narrowed down a time yet, but Jin can't really remember.

EDIT: It seems that everything Anne told me, even names, is exactly what Jin remembers... Anne told me her brother was called Niall Umbridge, her step-father (Niall's dad) was called Jack. I told Jin and he said "No, that is my life" Their mother's killed their real fathers in self defence because he used to beat them. I'm thinking that whoever took them has implanted this story. If you have contact with Lisa, just ask her what her last memories are before the taking. Don't give anything away.

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Another conversation with riddlemask. This time with Anne. Sorry, didn't see your post about their histories at that time.
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Hmm, Ok I'm talking with lisa but she doesn't seem able to remember much. Not nearly as much as the others at least, by the sound of it. I know she had a partner and kids and lived in Surrey, England and that presumerably they're still here.

Also she said she's becoming wary of Anne as she seems reluctant to talk about her past...

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brat_sampson: Greetings, you requested that I add you as a YIM friend and, on trust, I did. Did you have anything you wished to say?
brat_sampson: hello?
riddlemask: Contact?
brat_sampson: contact established
brat_sampson: you wished to speak to me?
riddlemask: You caught up on a signal then?
riddlemask: We send numerous signals out
riddlemask: Only now are they reaching contact
brat_sampson: yes, I recieved a signal but when I initialy responded, nobody replied
riddlemask: It is hard to keep up with the signals sent due to the work we must do for "them"
brat_sampson: I have read through some of your other conversations
brat_sampson: so I can understand that
brat_sampson: I am here to help and have also been contacted by other helpers
riddlemask: What have they said?
brat_sampson: they are searching
brat_sampson: they told me about how you need saving from them before the second taking uh, takes you
riddlemask: And my people
brat_sampson: yes, and the others
brat_sampson: where are you now?
riddlemask: I am in my room.Doors locked, no light,no one else
brat_sampson: which sector?
riddlemask: server 5.first two sectors.I am in between
brat_sampson: ok, are you safe?
riddlemask: Yes, I am can not be seen by "Them"
brat_sampson: is there anything you would like to say while safe? For me to tell the others?
riddlemask: Anne,I am suspicious of her.She is very secretive when I ask her about her past life
brat_sampson: is there any way to contact others myself?
riddlemask: We all operate through the same line so it is unknown who you may be in contact with next
brat_sampson: but I am talking with Lisa now?
riddlemask: Yes
riddlemask: You are
brat_sampson: ok
brat_sampson: as of yet we have made little progress finding those notes
brat_sampson: do you have anything to say that might help?
brat_sampson: we have found a website that may hold future clues though
riddlemask: The letters may be the only key
brat_sampson: you meant the letters he wrote?
riddlemask: Yes
riddlemask: The ones he sent out
brat_sampson: do you know yet who may be recieving them?
riddlemask: Peter,Sean, that is all anne told me
brat_sampson: will you be able to contact them before hand or should we look out for them in the future?
riddlemask: I do not know who these people are.I have never shared a workd with them.Either di Dr.Munchen
riddlemask: But he knew that they could help
brat_sampson: hopefully he was correct
riddlemask: So do I
riddlemask: I do not want to be taken
brat_sampson: do you have any idea how long ago you were taken the first time?
riddlemask: No,it seems forever though.My children would now be working.If I could only see there faces again
brat_sampson: were they taken?
riddlemask: No.
brat_sampson: then where are they now?
riddlemask: I suppose that they have not suffered the first taking and are still in your world.They were only young when I was taken
brat_sampson: Ah, ok.
brat_sampson: was your partner taken with you? or was he left here?
riddlemask: I was taken and he was still on the outside
brat_sampson: can you remember anything about being taken?
riddlemask: The light
riddlemask: It overwhelmed me
riddlemask: Took over my body
riddlemask: And the voices
riddlemask: They pierced my mind
riddlemask: Deafend me from any other noise
brat_sampson: what was the last thing you remember from Earth?
riddlemask: Picking my kids up from the créche after work.They were fighting but I calmed them down
brat_sampson: What do they make you do all day?
riddlemask: Fill passages and fix links
brat_sampson: just joining places to other places?
riddlemask: Caving in passages which were made when a taking takes place.And placing wires into their correct colour positions
riddlemask: They allways get moved when someone is taken
brat_sampson: are you monitered by instructors/bosses?
riddlemask: No
riddlemask: But we fear that if we do not do the work "they" will take us
brat_sampson: so being 'taken' is used as a threat/punishment as well as being routine?
riddlemask: Yes
riddlemask: Well we believe that it is
riddlemask: We have seen people slacking off work and being"next"
brat_sampson: are takings performed with any regularity?
riddlemask: Yes
riddlemask: We cannot count days but I presume they happen every couple
riddlemask: But we do not hear of them
riddlemask: There is too many people to hear about specific takings
brat_sampson: so how many happen in each session? (roughly)
riddlemask: session?
riddlemask: Sorry I do not understand
brat_sampson: Oh, sorry, I thought you meant that too many people were taken to hear about specifics. My mistake
brat_sampson: so it's roughly one person every couple of days
riddlemask: It could be more
riddlemask: As I said we do not hear about every occasion that someone is taken
brat_sampson: how many would you guess there are in total, where you are?
brat_sampson: in the thousands? Millions?
riddlemask: Over 1000 in my server alone
brat_sampson: where were you when you were taken the first time?
riddlemask: My home
brat_sampson: where did you live?
riddlemask: Surrey, In England
brat_sampson: can you remember any family members?
riddlemask: My partner, and two children
brat_sampson: any direct relatives? parents, brothers or sisters?
riddlemask: Not that I can remember
riddlemask: It is hard to stretch my mind to remember
brat_sampson: can you remember your second name?
riddlemask: No
riddlemask: I didnt even remember my first until one your friends decifered the numbers on my clothing
riddlemask: The voices
riddlemask: They are growing closer
riddlemask: I must go before they see me
riddlemask: Hear me
riddlemask: Before they find me
brat_sampson: ok, goodbye
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:07 pm
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Ok new insight on the note:

If all doors show the sign It could be 'the logo' however.....

The arrow could be seen as a compass (please correct me I don't know the word). That would make it a very crude, messed up map. The logo's are in some maps the sign for a gate. Being on doors would make some kind of sense.
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Puppy_Zwolle
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oh dear:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/enterpriseserver/s390/kdenetwork3-lisa.html

Or is this me being very slow?
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PatRol
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I'm sorry, I can't follow your last post/trail:
Puppy_Zwolle wrote:
oh dear:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/enterpriseserver/s390/kdenetwork3-lisa.html

Or is this me being very slow?


Lisa is a unix-daemon used for networking purposes (It is pretty much like the services you have with your Windows NT/XP). That's why I don't see any conjunction to the born beyond belief-site, but i may be wrong.

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I'm not sure how to post this so look throug the red mirror to see:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 for IBM
LISA scans your network for active hosts and offered services.

link to whats happening.
Lisa is working in server 9 (or 5 so far). Job unclear but comunicating is on of her skills.

Dunno how alternate this reality is but:
1.) 01001100 01101001 01110011 01100001 for a name sure points to Binary world, although her keyboard has 3 buttons it is computer(ish)based.
2.) LISA and Lisa both work in a server. Only folks I know work with them unless they are replacing something but our Lisa is a buttonpusher.
3.) Linux LISA's job is pretty basic and thats what Lisa seems to be doing.
Hence:
She could be the biosoftware in a building that works as a computer.

So, how about this?

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Okay, now I can follow your trail. What about this:
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Conversation of Lisa and Caspian_x:
riddlemask (3:12:34 PM): Server, It is the name of where we are.It is a name to me.Nothing else.There is a significance somewhere but you are asking the wrong person


Here are some thoughts and questions of mine:
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When I read about the "server" the first time, I was thinking of it as some kind of container. You can put things in it to keep them for a later use. And when you need one or more you just take them out. So you can serve yourself whenever you want.

Lisa and the others are put into these "container" for some special reason. They don't know if the work they are doing is really the work, the "they" expect them to do, but they do because they fear beeing taken a second time otherwise. Have others tried to stop working and have those others been taken?

I don't know if they have been transformed into a part of a server (in the meaning of computer), because it looks like they had normal lives before they were taken the first time. Although there are some strange accordances that lead to the conclusion about the memories beeing implanted (riddlemask:"they pierced my mind."). Did they really had normal lives before they were taken the first time or are they what we call artificial intelligence?

Shouldn't the countdown on the menace-media.com site have changed to 6 by now?


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I just finished having a short Conversation with Anne via YIM a few minutes ago...here's a transcript:
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Okay, has anyone else tried googling Dr. Munchen? There are allll sorts of results in german, and they seem to be about him helping Hitler during WWII? Or am I way off base?
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For those who, for some reason don't wanna download the file, here's a copy:

Quote:
Lisa Inconclusive: Contact
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Contact
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Hello, is this Lisa?
Lisa Inconclusive: No
Lisa Inconclusive: This is Anne
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Oh! Sorry about that.
Lisa Inconclusive: No problem
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: This is the first time we've met, but I've read up on the conversations that have happend.
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Between you and other people on my end...as well as with Lisa and Jin.
Lisa Inconclusive: Jin
Lisa Inconclusive: What has he said
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Ummm...I'm not really sure if anyone has had a conversation with him actually...just that the name has been thrown around...let me check...
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Ummm...well it seems like he's mentioned that he lives in Server Five...
Lisa Inconclusive: Yes
Lisa Inconclusive: The same a Lisa and I
Lisa Inconclusive: And many others
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Ahhh, okay...I think he was the first one to make contact with us...
Lisa Inconclusive: I am surprised that he could communicate
Lisa Inconclusive: His english fails him at times
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Oh really? Well...it seems like it came across okay this time. Ummm, can I ask...are you friends with Lisa and Jin?
Lisa Inconclusive: Friends?
Lisa Inconclusive: No one has friends here
Lisa Inconclusive: Trust is an issue
Lisa Inconclusive: We communicate though
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Why? Do you think that some of the people like you there are actually bad people? Like that they're working for "them"?
Lisa Inconclusive: I wouldn't be surprised. We know nothing about most people here.Nothing about their former lives
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Is that because they don't remember their former lives...or do you think that some are just trying to keep their past hidden?
Lisa Inconclusive: There are alot of secrets here.
Lisa Inconclusive: I feel that it is a bit of both
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Ohhh...that's unfortunate, that would make it really difficult to work together in any kind of a team. Ummm...how often do you speak with Lisa or Jin?
Lisa Inconclusive: Regulary
Lisa Inconclusive: Lisa takes control of most the transmittor lines
Lisa Inconclusive: We take shifts to send signals
Lisa Inconclusive: I would say that there are fifty of us doing it
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: When you send signals...are they signals for help? Or do you send signals for other things to other places?
Lisa Inconclusive: Help. Some of us want to prevent the second and and first takings.The signals are for help from the outside
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Why would any one NOT want to stop the first and second takings? Would anyone, besides 'them', benefit from them continuing?
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Do you feel that some people are resisting the opportunity to get help from the outside?
Lisa Inconclusive: Yes
Lisa Inconclusive: Some people do not want to be saved
Lisa Inconclusive: They have nothing to go back to
Lisa Inconclusive: ------------------------------------------------------------------------signal stength 78%
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: If we stop the "Takings", what will happen to you. Can you come back here...with us??
Lisa Inconclusive: 74%
Lisa Inconclusive: 46%
Lisa Inconclusive: 32%
Lisa Inconclusive: What is
Lisa Inconclusive: Happe
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: Don't worry!
Lisa Inconclusive: 23%
Lisa Inconclusive: -----------------------------------------------
sabastianthewhalewashingdolphin: We'll help you soon!
Lisa Inconclusive has signed out. (10/31/2005 1:07 PM)


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Nos wrote:
Okay, has anyone else tried googling Dr. Munchen? There are allll sorts of results in german, and they seem to be about him helping Hitler during WWII? Or am I way off base?


Dr. Munchen:

I did not find any dr. Munchen with relation to Hitler. What link did you find? I can read german.

http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook10130.htm
http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook10128.htm
Character in these books. Not sure about his role in them but WW III (3)related, not WWII.
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To the right of the picture are two sentences:

Wht do yu wnt

and

Hllo wht is te tme

The missing letters are:

aoa

and

aahi

can anyone do something with this?

or is this a red herring?

Greetz,
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looks like too many A's to make anything. and also wasn't there some movie or book or something with Mr. Munchen in it? The name sounds really familar.

Edit: I remember now it was from the black house by peter straub and stephen king he was some demon thing who helped this serial killer kill people and was the name of Albert Fish's friend another word for the monday man.
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