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Puppy_Zwolle
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caspian_x wrote:
So we're probably dealing with a 90 year old mind in a 15 year old body.

Good point.

---->:Also points me towards "Peace out" Not that it has anything to do with it directly.

But this is the second 'old person' having some youth to him. Doc was rather specific about that age and Jordan's 'peace out' also sticks out like a fox in a henhouse. The mother of all granddads trying to be 'hapnin' and young.

Also the pre-server period is like the fountain of eternal youth in itself.

Is this a/the theme of the plot? We seem to get our noses rubbed into it like it's something we SHOULD notice.
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Puppy wrote:
caspian_x wrote:
So we're probably dealing with a 90 year old mind in a 15 year old body.
Good point.

---->:Also points me towards "Peace out" Not that it has anything to do with it directly.

I am not totally convinced about the real age of Dr. Munchen. As far as I understand the process of the virus, it is in everybody's body including your's and mine. Everytime one person of the real world dies (is taken into the servers), one of the server-persons is to be reborn(the second taking). So this is an ongoing cycle or process.

If we then take the server-people to be the somehow "saved" souls of the real world people, the doctor's soul may be hundreds of thousands of years old, depending on what time the servers where built in. (This spec. goes one by one with the doctor's narration about his bodies in a row).

(Here in Germany, there is a TV-Show called "Wer war ich? Reise in ein früheres Leben.". In this documentation people in trance are telling stories about their former lives. After their narrations they travel to the places of which they believe, they did live there in their former lives. And they always find clues to their former lives. Just for your interest.)
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Ah yes, the other core-activity of the server. Mind wiping.

Indeed who are you if you are also all others you were. And I already pointed out Jordan seemed to have experience with the trouble the doc caused by resisting the mind wipe and the taking. It may just have been a previous incarnation of the doc. But indeed a previous incarnation. Maybe thats why he expected the trouble....

Looking at it from the soul's side is making things very complex. Mainly the question; "who is/are/were it/he/I/we/they?"

So far there is no evidence the doc is remembering other lives he has lived....yet. Lets stick with his current identity of a scientist from the WWII age, and keep in mind his soul is as old as the server is.

Just so we don't lose the little grip we have on this story. Twisted Evil
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If, when you die, it is The First Taking, and when you are "reinserted" it is The Second Taking, what then happens when you die the second time? Is it again a First Taking because you have no memories of your "first life" and are "new" again or reborn?

Consequently, is the world then populated over and over again by the same souls, with population growth possible because these "old souls" continue to have children when "reborn", as do their children?

If so, then there must be some really old souls in the server....dating back to
The Beginning.

Sorry if this post is redundant, I've just come upon this thread and it was a long read from front to back.

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*Obes' mind implodes from the logic*


Sorry.. haven't said anything for a while.



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Caterpillar wrote:
If, when you die, it is The First Taking, and when you are "reinserted" it is The Second Taking, what then happens when you die the second time? Is it again a First Taking because you have no memories of your "first life" and are "new" again or reborn?

Consequently, is the world then populated over and over again by the same souls, with population growth possible because these "old souls" continue to have children when "reborn", as do their children?

If so, then there must be some really old souls in the server....dating back to
The Beginning.

Yes. in my opinion, your second, third, fourth and so on... death has to be seen again as First Taking. And I think, there is a circulation of souls. Only some are on earth and the others are in the server-things and wait for them being reborn. Please keep in mind, this is only speculation.
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jumping into the spec pool with my morning tea in hand--
(*splash.. but not one drop of tea spilled--yay)
i was thinking it was more that the servers are a pit stop.
kinda like the christian purgatory w/o the judgement
the first taking happens at death and then you hang
out while they wipe out your memories and select
the next human you'll be inserted into--(the second taking)
but i don't
think our "jordan davis" gets all the souls (although he'd like to)
he's like a high tech satan/lucifer sorta guy
other souls move on some other way--
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labfly wrote:
other souls move on some other way--

huh? Other way? We know there are manymany more servers. Jordan has said they do the same 'job'. What other way are you talking about?

My guess this is it. No hell or heaven, no rewarding afterlife just recycling.
1st. Take in. Process. 2nd Take out.
How anybody can do this job a lifetime when a lifetime is forever is beyond me. The man must be raving mad by now..... Ah.... well that would explain his split personality. 'Peace out'.
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If we had our own forum for this game, I'd be all over the META thread like white on rice. But we don't, so I won't discuss the logistics of this story or how it may affect the longevity of this game. Yet.

Assuming Jordan is telling the truth about the Servers and souls and what not, I say we destroy the servers. Let human souls go wherever they are supposed to go after they die. This server business is just wacko. I mean, what's our alternative, turn Dr. Munchen back to Jordan so he can have his mind wiped, or more likely, his soul destroyed (since mind wiping doesn't seem to be effective on the good doctor)?

Then again, we must consider the possibility that Jordan is a raving lunatic who has as much to do with servers and reincarnation as I have to do with synchronized underwater basket weaving. Nothing. If that's the case, what's really happening?

And on that note, I'd like to wish all of you who celebrate it a very Happy Thanksgiving! I'm off to eat way more turkey, stuffing, potatoes, and other things than should ever be stuffed into my body at one time!

Peace Out Rolling Eyes Very Happy

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caspian_x wrote:
If we had our own forum for this game, I'd be all over ... synchronized underwater basket weaving.

And on that note,... be stuffed...


So.. wada we needto do to get a forum? This thread is swamped. Can't make 'hats' or 'tales' of anything caspian is saying anymore. Twisted Evil

*gets on his knees* To those in power and with an open ear. Pretty please, with sugar on top. Could we?

quote of the day:"I am the fifth rider of the Apocolypse, my name is stress."
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Uhm, just for your interest: We can split up this thread. We don't need to post every little bit of information, spec, meta or whatever in this one. So, go on and open a new thread within this part of the forum. Everybody of us is allowed to do that, as long as he or she follows the guidelines.

I don't know why we need an own forum for ourselfs, right now. Just open some one or two more threads for menace-media and then everybody will be happy.

There are only four more games on this part of the forums, so i don't see a big problem to share this space with them.

At least, this is only my point of view, so your's may differ from mine. Wink

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So? How bout it?
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Puppy_Zwolle wrote:
labfly wrote:
other souls move on some other way--

huh? Other way? We know there are manymany more servers. Jordan has said they do the same 'job'. What other way are you talking about?

i still don't think jordan gets his hands on every soul-- it is my spec that he pursues certain souls but can't get his hands on all of them and they go wherever souls are supposed to go.. (to the next plane of existence, into the universe, heaven.. or my favorite-- nowhere) and looking at any of this logically..?? hah! i threw out logic weeks ago Confused
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Puppy_Zwolle wrote:
So? How bout it?
Hey Puppy, nice work. That makes it even harder to choose one of the other groupnames Wink
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Great work Puppy.. looks wonderful!!

Groetjes,

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