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labfly
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Obes wrote:

"What is the way to end Jordan's cycle and free the Matzai?"


i second it.. that is a great way to approach this, obes
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Caspian
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I like the idea, but let's be cautious. This isn't God offering us the answer to any question. This is Jordan we're dealing with (presumably). He said ask wisely. If we ask a question he doesn't want to answer, he's either going to refuse to answer or he will just toy with us. We have no guarantee that his answer will be honest or even helpful to us, even if we do ask wisely.

I am just submitting this for thought. I don't actually have an idea for a question just yet.

Switching gears, did anyone ever figure out what we are supposed to enter in the input box at ream.htm?

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Obes
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No... we didn't.. but looking at the change in the site, anyone tried revolution and revolution1..2..3..4..5..6

Counting back up again. Cycle complete!

And if we're asking wisely, then we know Jordan will never give us a straight answer. So perhaps this is a dead end. The peverbial carrot infront of our faces.

We know his name is the sweetest to say, perhaps ask him how to spell it. Or we can just ask "Why should we ask you the question if you never give us the answers?"

Obes. Twisted Evil

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Caspian
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Just brainstorming here, but in one of his emails to me, Jordan said
Quote:
Believe me there is a way out of the "Servers" with your
full mind and body.

We could ask him how someone can escape the server permanently. That way perhaps we could get Munchen out of this server-beach cycle (assuming Munchen is in fact an actual person). Any other thoughts?

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labfly
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i think we should just go ahead and ask something--
we seemed stalled until we do
who wants to do it?
edit: everyone has proposed good questions
should we just vote?
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Puppy_Zwolle
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1) If there is a way out for 'mind and body' then mind and body are in there.
2) Jordan also stated that the body you have in there is just a representation of the last body you had.

These to seem to contradict eachother. Unless we go with the theory that our doc is infact mad as a hatter and way through the lookingglass. Then 'fact', 'fiction' and 'illusion' can be all that at the same time.

I still think that is the answer... however that is by no means a solution to the big picture or this question we should ask.

But still I have to agree with caspian_x: We can ask all we want and never be sure of the answer. Therefore just ask a bold question is a good a shot as being cryptic or subtile about it.

"What do we need to know?" is to cryptic perhaps. So I would say lets just ask caspian_x question:
"How can someone escape, mind body and soul, into our world from the servers?"
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What about:

What question do we need to ask you to make sure that you will answer with the truth, so that we will know by the answer that you have answered with the truth, even if you lied.

I know am rambling here.. but it might throw him off..


Greetz,

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Puppy_Zwolle
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draghkar wrote:
I know am rambling here.. but it might throw him off..

Shocked I have to agree.. It sure got me thrown.. for a sec. Though the idea is correct, what good will it do us to know if he doesn't lie all the time?

He will probably will give us this question: "Do you provide a question when asked to?" It sure fits with what you asked him but does not help us any. Wink
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Obes
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I have it!

Would you, or would you not... like a cup of tea?

And, if we get another question..

Milk and or sugar?

And finally... if Jordan knows loads... can we ask him where I left those cds I've been searching for for months?


Technically speaking, this 'ask one question' thing is completly flawed. Someone could ask without ever visiting this site, and blow the whole thing away. It could DEFINITELY be a dead end.

Thus, I suggest we ask "What word needs to be put into the text box on the 'Ream' page, if indeed this page is significant?"

Hopefully then we'll work out if both of these 'options' are dead ends, or if one leads to something more.

Obes.
The MadishHatterish Twisted Evil

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Puppy_Zwolle
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Dear Obes Muadib,

Good question. To the point. Straight answer and instanly checkable. Me like.

I too would like to know where those cd's are Twisted Evil
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Obes
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Speaking with Anne right now. She's trying to track Munchen.

She keeps spotting him, so I'm distracting her and trying to manipulate her against Jordan's grip on her. She's a powerful ally if this works.

Yay randomness!

I'll have the transcribe up in a bit.

Obes. Evil or Very Mad

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Obes
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Quote:
riddlemask says:
Hello
Chris says:
Hello
riddlemask says:
I am sorry
Chris says:
What for?
riddlemask says:
I have not spoken out for a while
Chris says:
I've noticed. Who's this, Carl, Anne?
riddlemask says:
Anne, your friend
Chris says:
Ahhh hello Anne, how are you doing?
riddlemask says:
I saw him today
Chris says:
Him?
Chris says:
You mean the doctor?
riddlemask says:
Yes
riddlemask says:
How?
Chris says:
That's a rarity, he's hard to spot right now.
Chris says:
How did you see him?
Chris says:
He's around.
riddlemask says:
He was a child,I could see the doctor when I saw the boys eyes
riddlemask says:
I must tell Jordan
Chris says:
Nah, it isn't important.
Chris says:
Random sightings aren't exactly helpful - are they?
riddlemask says:
He ran down the third H line
Chris says:
third from which direction?
riddlemask says:
From NH3
Chris says:
Ahh I see.
Chris says:
Still, unless you can put your finger on it, it's not helpful.
riddlemask says:
North H Line 3
Chris says:
I understand. But still, if the doctor is running around doing nothing, it's not like knowing where he was X hours ago will make any difference. He could be anywhere now.
Chris says:
I vote for not telling Jordan, it's not useful.
Chris says:
Anne, do you still eat the same food as everyone else?
riddlemask says:
But he needs to get the doctor out of here, if he knows that he is possessing a child form then it will be easier
riddlemask says:
I never really ate that stuff
riddlemask says:
If you could call it "eat"
Chris says:
I see, good.
Chris says:
Well, you said the doctor changed when you looked into his eyes right?
Chris says:
So even if you look at him, he changes form... so knowing he looks like a child some of the time is as useful as saying he's here some of the time.
Chris says:
And Jordan already knows he's here some of the time, and that didn't help.
riddlemask says:
There he is again!
Chris says:
Hmm, low chances of that happening twice, lucky you!
Chris says:
I don't think spotting him will help in the end, there's really no reason for you to continue helping Jordan so much, if what you can do makes no input.
Chris says:
I'm only thinking of you wasting precious engery on a fruitless task.
Chris says:
energy even*
Chris says:
Wouldn't getting back to Ireland be a much nicer aim?
Chris says:
Anne, where are you now? Leave the Dr be a minute, we're talking.
Chris says:
Anne?


At this point, she was away for 45 minutes, and I gave up. I wanted a sandwich for that whole hour darn it!

Obes.

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onlykris
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I am going crazy. I am too impatient for this waiting game.

Riddlemask is on MSN (finally!) but is showing away. I have had no response from Jordan. The website change hasn't done us any good yet. I am wondering if there is some big piece out there that we are missing. Another page, another site? I have read over the clues a million times now.

Obes>> Good job of attempting to turn Anne our way. I hate it when they just bail out of a conversation like that.
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Caspian
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This would be so much easier if we had our own forum... Anyway, I have a couple topics to discuss.

Anne is hunting Munchen: If we speak with her again, try to convince her that she's wrong about the boy being the doctor. Tell her they might just look similar or that perhaps they are even relatives.

New Jordan email: I guess he hasn't given up on me after all. Thank god, because I was starting to wonder if he was going to take back that whole "you are a real man" comment. Rolling Eyes Anyway, my last email to him can be found here. His reply:
Jordan, leader of the not so free world wrote:
My Friend
My Dear Friend
You have not betrayed me yet so I still speak.
This passage that Munchen speaks of is currently being fixed and refilled by
"them".Isn't it funny.It is on the outer walls so it could be seen as a way
out.But of course nobody can really escape with their own body,only mind.
I remain
Jordan

This seems to contradict what he said before
Jordan, soul keeper and generally demented ancient human wrote:
Believe me there is a way out of the "Servers" with your full mind and body.
I will forumlate a response and ask him about this contradiction.

Question: I like the idea of asking about the ream page. I also like asking about how to escape body, soul, and mind. So I vote that we pick one of those two and ask soon - like today. Since I already plan to ask him about escaping (calling him on his self contradiction), maybe we should just ask about ream.html

For now, I will be rejoicing that I am still a real man and that my next taking won't be permanent...at least not yet (is my extreme sarcasm and frustration with Jordan coming through)?

~ Caspian

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Caspian
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ARG! (pun intended) Sorry for two huge posts in a row, but I have new information to impart. I replied to Jordan's email as follows:
caspian-x, super secret double agent man of mystery wrote:
Hello friend,

I have not betrayed you "yet"? Make no mistake, I have no intent of betraying your trust, Jordan. Not as long as you are honest with me and continue to prove your alliance with me. I must say that I began to doubt you after you did not contact me for some time. And I now see that you are offering my friends an answer to one question. What is your purpose there?

You seem to contradict yourself, my friend. In a previous email you said to me, "Believe me there is a way out of the "Servers" with your full mind and body." Now you tell me Munchen could not escape with his body, just his mind. What is the truth? Is there a way that Munchen could escape with his body and mind? I ask you this because I have a plan to trap Munchen.

Anne has contacted one of my friends. She believes she found Munchen in the servers, but then she lost him. If there is a way to escape with your body and mind, Munchen will likely figure it out soon. He is a smart man. My plan is this: We tell Anne to guard the escape for full body and mind. Then, we will speak with Munchen and determine if he has discovered this escape route yet. If he has, we will encourage him to make a break for it. If he has not figured out where to escape, we will tell him and lead him right to Anne.

I eagerly await your thoughts regarding this plan.

Your loyal friend,
Caspian

Understand that I meant to carry out this plan with a little change. We would tell Anne a totally different place to guard, letting Munchen get out scott-free. Afterwards, maybe we could even tip off Anne to the real location and let her escape too. Anyway, here's the response:
Jordan, supreme validator of masculinity wrote:
Hello friend,

What in the sky's face are you speaking of?I never asked your friends for one
question.I never said that they could even ask me anything.Are you
playing with
me?Trying to let make me let them know what you do by giving them a
question to
ask?They betrayed the trust.You though are a real man.

When I said that there is a way out with your full mind and body I did not
believe you would take it that literal.You can escape with your own mind but
not your own body.Instead when your mind re-enters you will take the body of
someone else already alive and their mind or soul(Whatever you wish to
believe)
gets knocked into the servers.

I like your plan.But there is a hitch.I do not know if I trust Anne
that much.If
she sees a way to exit to the outside world with another persons body she will
take it.When faced with something like that who wouldn't.

I
Jordan


Whaa..???: He denies knowledge of the "one question" thing. Who then is running menace-media.com??? Who is giving us the chance to ask a question???

Mind-swap: So apparently Munchen would need to take over someone else's body if he escaped. Perhaps he was taking over the body of someone on a beach?

Pump you up: Apparently I'm still a real man. Phew, I was getting worried. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Alright, I've blabbed enough for one morning. My brain hurts from all this new information. For now, I say we delay our question as it seems it might not be to Jordan after all. I will contemplate a response to Jordan. You guys discuss...
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