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Caspian
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 		/me nods
draghkar sounds good to me.

UPDATE: IM from Kim at 2:15 PM CST - I was at work so I could not respond.

riddlemask wrote:

riddlemask (2:15:13 PM): We will walk through those doors today free-men
riddlemask (2:15:44 PM): But we must know when to leave and in what numbers
riddlemask (2:15:50 PM): Shall we send one?
riddlemask (2:16:00 PM): If no return we give up hope?
riddlemask (2:16:10 PM): If so I shall go
riddlemask (2:16:19 PM): They need Munchen and Carl down here
riddlemask (2:16:29 PM): Kim-----
riddlemask signed off at 2:16:33 PM.


So, like Jordan said, they are planning an exodus. Kim will be their scout, apparently. Anyone else get an IM?[/quote]
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 		/me votes for Draghkar to become the second spy

Long time ago, I sent an email to the Carl Jackson email-account without getting any reply in weeks. Now I got an eMail from Carl, Munchen and Kim telling this:
PatRol <e- Carl Jackson wrote:
To The Helpers
You would not believe our luck.We have found the Doctor!He is here with us.He helped me program the transmittor to recieve messages called e-mails.We have a plan.An escape route.Everything!We need the go ahead from you and your friends.We need to organize how many will go through the passage at a given time.This is it.Freedom

Carl

To Those Who Listen
Ever since I re-entered the server after my intermediate experience I have felt my mind change to accomadate new memories.Either these are the ghosts of my past,or someone is inserting them.
Now we have found this passage,well,I have faith in the Matzai once more.

Oliver

Hello
We have never spoken for more than a minute but I still need your aproval.We have been told by Munchen that you have spoken with "them".Is this the way out?

Kim


@Caspian: No, I had no conv within the last days. I was busy with some other stuff and so I still am Sad

Caspian_x <e- Jordan wrote:
Did they buy it?Ha,if they did it is going to make my life alot easier.The
plan?Your friends wipe away the ones that are resisting the second taking

IMHO we shouldn't affirm them to walk through that passage, should we? Will WE wipe them away if we tell them to take that passage? What do we tell them now? I suggest to tell them some parts of the "what's behind the server"-story. They have to know where they are, what they are. What do you think about that?
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 		I suggest we tell them the truth of the matter before it's too late. They're people, and should be trusted to make up their minds whether they are to believe us that Jordan is evil and trying to destroy them, or that that route is to safety.

I can foresee that some shall walk and walk to destruction. Some may stay. Is destruction better than the cycle?

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Caspian
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Did they buy it?Ha,if they did it is going to make my life alot easier.The
plan?Your friends wipe away the ones that are resisting the second taking


First, I believe here Jordan is talking about the whole "psych patient" ruse. We would "wipe away the ones that are resisting" by interacting with them as if they are schizophrenic personalities. I honestly don't know if having them leave through the server will "wipe them away" or release them to freedom.

Second, I'm not really sure what "wipe them away" means. Jordan used to use the word "wipe" to mean a memory wipe prior to reinsertion. He may simply mean that again now, or he might mean total soul destruction, if that is even possible.

So, let's not make any decisions yet. Let me talk to Jordan, as it seems that I am still in his good graces (I'm still a real man, after all) and discover how we are to do this and whether the passage to the outside is still really an escape or not. I'll also tell Jordan him I've found a possible new recruit.

In the meantime, why don't we contact the Matzai via that email address and tell them that we are working on their escape. Full disclosure with them is fine as far as I'm concerned. We can tell them about Jordan, what he claims the servers are (they don't need the whole server backstory, just the present function will do), and what we know or suspect. Jordan said that one passage Munchen was talking about was a direct escape, but we don't know if we can trust that. He could be lying to me to test me, or he could already know where my loyalties lie and trying to use me to trap them. We should tell them all of this and leave it up to them.

Anyway, I'll start on the next Jordan email. If anyone wants to start an email to the Matzai, go for it. Otherwise, I can do that later.

/me searches for writer's cap
/me doesn't find writrer's cap
/me gets coffee instead
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 		all of the messages from carl, kim and doc have the jordan
"no space after the period". could this just be jordan testing
caspian? maybe waiting for us to reveal something that
caspian has told us? i think we should be careful with
what we say but we should try to stop the poor dears.
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Caspian
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 		Good point, lab. Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to be completely open with the Matzai. For now, let's not tell them what the servers are, but instead just tell them that we think we have an exit, but we are trying to verify that it is safe.

The "no space after period thing" has been the case in almost all the messages from any character (Lisa, Anne, Oliver, etc.) so maybe it's a META thing. Another possibility is that we really are dealing with one person with multiple personalities who always does that period-no-space thing. Confused Bang Head

Could email Gene Wisely and ask him if there's any way he can prove his claim that we are dealing with one person with multiple personalities? Even though I'm leaning toward that whole plotline being a fabrication of Jordan, I haven't ruled it out completely.
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 		Finally, a response from Jordan.
Like I said earlier I have been playing it from an outsider point of view. Here is my email
Kris>> Dear Sir,
I have been following your website closely. In a search for helpful information I came across a group of people also wishing to help you. They seem to me to be conspiracy theorists at the very most. I wish to help you if possible.
You have been absent for a while.
What is this secret you wish to share? What are you asking in return?

His response>>This secret that I wish to share?
Can I trust you?
Yes I can, so why hesitate?
First...
Are you in contact with the others?
Jordan

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My reply>>
You can trust me.
Why do you answer your own questions?
I can make contact with the others. For now I just watch.
What is it you wish for me to do?



From there..... we will see.
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 		just had a talk with riddlemask:

I witnessed their escape!

or so it seems

anyway, here it is:
Quote:

Draghkar says:
contact
riddlemask says:
We are doing it
riddlemask says:
Going in
riddlemask says:
We have three on back up
riddlemask says:
Carl,Munchen and I
Draghkar says:
anne?
riddlemask says:
Kim
Draghkar says:

riddlemask says:
We have supports made from bed posts
riddlemask says:
They should hold it
Draghkar says:
You are going to escape?
riddlemask says:
Through the passage
Draghkar says:
be careful there
riddlemask says:
This is it
Draghkar says:
When you get on the beach..
Draghkar says:
go swim
Draghkar says:
Dit munchen tell you how to avoid the second taking?
riddlemask says:
Yes
riddlemask says:
We will fight it everytime "he" tries
Draghkar says:
good
Draghkar says:
What is at the end of the tunnel?
riddlemask says:
I cannot talk
Draghkar says:
why not?
riddlemask says:
Putting you onto Carl
Draghkar says:
ok
Draghkar says:
hello carl
riddlemask says:
My friend,Munchen,you know he is here!
Draghkar says:
good
Draghkar says:
what did he tell you?
riddlemask says:
How to avoid it!
riddlemask says:
The taking
Draghkar says:
good
Draghkar says:
can you tell him we have access to bbb66
riddlemask says:
My faith is restored in him
riddlemask says:
He is the chosen leader
riddlemask says:
Yes I can
riddlemask says:
Putting you through to Munchen
Draghkar says:
hello dr munchen
Draghkar says:
we have access to bbb66
riddlemask says:
You do? Great,brilliant,amazing.What did you find?
riddlemask says:
Was it altered like I thought?
Draghkar says:
there was some hidden text in there
Draghkar says:
talking about the beach
Draghkar says:
there is only one copy of bbb left
Draghkar says:
the hidden message is: on the beach you must swim
riddlemask says:
I wrote that in a different mind
riddlemask says:
Thank you
riddlemask says:
It shall be helpful
Draghkar says:
where does the passage lead to?
riddlemask says:
I do not know
riddlemask says:
That is what we shall find out
Draghkar says:
have you ever heard of dr wisely?
Draghkar says:
gene wisely?
riddlemask says:
Never, why?
Draghkar says:
his name popped up somewhere..
Draghkar says:
in combination to "him"
riddlemask says:
Dirty Bastard
riddlemask says:
Ill have him when I get out
Draghkar says:
do you know his real name?
Draghkar says:
he is known as "jordan" to us
riddlemask says:
I only suppose it is in his whispers
Draghkar says:
but that name is fake
Draghkar says:
what is kim doing right now?
riddlemask says:
Carl is lifting her up
riddlemask says:
Wait one moment
Draghkar says:
ok
riddlemask says:
There is a ledge above
riddlemask says:
Carl will lift me up now
Draghkar says:
that is good
Draghkar says:
ok
riddlemask says:
She is fine up there
riddlemask says:
I'm handing this up to Kim
riddlemask says:
Hello?
Draghkar says:
i am here
Draghkar says:
how are you kim?
riddlemask says:
Wrecked, but glad that freedom is near
Draghkar says:
can you see where the ledge is leading?
riddlemask says:
Its all black,the transmittor will guide us though
riddlemask says:
I'm handing you over to Munchen while I scout a bit ahead
Draghkar says:
on the beach, you must swim
Draghkar says:
ok
riddlemask says:
Yes, I understand
Draghkar says:
is there anything else in BBB that we need to know about?
Draghkar says:
"he" has the only copy of it, and it is very hard to convince him to give up pages
riddlemask says:
Nothing much but a highly exagerated story, i hate my own work.
Draghkar says:
ok
riddlemask says:
I'll call Kim now
Draghkar says:
ok
Draghkar says:
there is only one way out he says
riddlemask says:
This must be it
Draghkar says:
you need to link with an existing body
riddlemask says:
What?
Draghkar says:
you must link with a body that exists already
Draghkar says:
thats what he said
riddlemask says:
So they go out to the servers?
riddlemask says:
where is Kim
Draghkar says:
she went up ahead
riddlemask says:
Yes,but she is not answering
riddlemask says:
Ill go forward
Draghkar says:
be careful?
Draghkar says:
where is carl?
riddlemask says:
Behind
Draghkar says:
is he ok?
riddlemask says:
Yes
riddlemask says:
Ahh there she is
riddlemask says:
Wait
riddlemask says:
She is telling me something
Draghkar says:
is she alright?
riddlemask says:
Yes, there are three passages split
Draghkar says:
are they the same size?
riddlemask says:
I cannot see properly but we should be able to fit one by one
riddlemask says:
Shall we split up?
Draghkar says:
no, stay together
Draghkar says:
is safer
Draghkar says:
and you have only one transmitter
riddlemask says:
But,three passages
Draghkar says:
the middle one
Draghkar says:
you drew a sign, and the middle one leads out
Draghkar says:
according to it
riddlemask says:
Yes
Draghkar says:
other are dead ends
riddlemask says:
You are correct!
riddlemask says:
This is it
riddlemask says:
This is the symbol!
riddlemask says:
We shall take the middle,yes?
Draghkar says:
the middle
Draghkar says:
affirmative
riddlemask says:
Bless You
riddlemask says:
Wait
riddlemask says:
We are losing signal
Draghkar says:
be careful
riddlemask says:
Shall we proceed forward?
Draghkar says:
Yes
Draghkar says:
but carefully
riddlemask says:
I hope to see you on the other side
Draghkar says:
I'll be there


Some progress

Greetz,

draghkar
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 		And contact with the Matzai. Sounds like they are on the move...

Kris says:
Contact?
riddlemask says:
Contact
Kris says:
Who am I speaking with?
riddlemask says:
We are going in
riddlemask says:
Kim
Kris says:
Kim, Where are you going? Did you find a passage?
riddlemask says:
Yes
riddlemask says:
We have it supported by bed posts
Kris says:
Where is it?
riddlemask says:
Three will go in first
Kris says:
How did you find it?
riddlemask says:
This is it
Kris says:
Which three?
riddlemask says:
Down the third hall
riddlemask says:
We shall escape
Kris says:
North?
riddlemask says:
I think so, yes
riddlemask says:
I cannot talk
Kris says:
Which three
riddlemask says:
Putting you onto Carl
Kris says:
Can I help?
riddlemask says:
You will go through with the transmittor
Kris says:
Carl?
riddlemask says:
You can help make decisions with us
riddlemask says:
Hello
Kris says:
How do I go through the transmittor?
riddlemask says:
Sorry, I was speaking to Kim
Kris says:
Which three are going through Carl?
riddlemask says:
Through to Munchen
Kris says:
Have you contacted Munchen?
Kris says:
How can I help?
riddlemask says:
I am Munchen, here to talk
riddlemask says:
You need to talk?
riddlemask says:
We are in it
Kris says:
Are you there?

The following message could not be delivered to all recipients:
Are you there?
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 		Just a thought,

Should we split up this thread into 2 or 3 new ones?

I am thinking of the following seperate threads:

* Communication with matzai
* Communication with Jordan
* Site Changes

IMHO that will be easier to search through once we are having a IM convestation with one of them. Just a thought.

Greetz,

Draghkar
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 		Did everyone escape... or just Carl, Kim and Munchen?

Because if those three escaped, we now need to find a way to save the rest.

Obes. Twisted Evil

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 		Well, technically spoken, we dont know if they escaped.

But if they did, its only them 3.

As far as the others?

I have no clue how many there are and how we must safe them. As far as i know there is only 1 transmitter, so no way to guide them.

Awell..

Greetz,

D.
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draghkar wrote:
Just a thought,
Should we split up this thread into 2 or 3 new ones?
I am thinking of the following seperate threads:
* Communication with matzai
* Communication with Jordan
* Site Changes



yes!! let's do it. Very Happy
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 		Sorry I've been so long in getting this email out. Here's my latest email to Jordan:

caspian_x wrote:
Hello friend,

For now, I will continue trust in your promise of unnamed rewards. But I will require to know exactly what my payment shall be soon.

Now, about the extra hand. I have found someone I believe I can turn to our side. You must understand, though, that this will be no easy task. The group is mostly set against you. Since they do not understand the true purpose of the servers, they are unsure of what to think about you. The general consensus seems to be that you have somehow captured the Matzai and are holding them hostage for an unknown reason. Since you instructed me to keep the true nature of the servers to myself, I had no recourse to persuade them that you are not evil. Instead, when we need to manipulate their actions, I do so from the idea that it will hinder you (when in reality, I am working for you).

Because the group feels the way they do about you, I must have something to attract him to our side. I can tell him the truth about the servers, but I have no assurance that he will believe me and join our side. If he does not, he will surely tell the others that I am a spy and all will be lost. So, before I approach him, do you have anything I can offer him? I do not think the promise of unnamed material goods is going to work with him as easily as it has with me. Do you have some specific reward to offer him? If not, at the very least do you have some proof that I can use to convince him your story is true?

By the way, the person goes by the name Dragkhar. I believe he has contacted you in the past. He is a suspicious person, but if he can be turned to our side, he would be a powerful ally. He holds much sway in the group.

Your friend,
Caspian


@Dragkhar: For now, don't contact Jordan. I want to make sure he approves of you as the agent. I also want to see if he will offer a specific reward for your services, or at least some form of proof.

@Labfly: Could you contact Dr. Wisely and ask him to provide 1) Some sort of proof that his story is true and 2) Advice on how we begin to wipe the personalities?

@Everyone: Anyone hear from the Matzai since they took the plunge?
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 		Great mail caspian

I will sit still until you tell me to move Smile am curious on how he will react on this.

Greetz,

Draghkar
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