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[LOCKED] ARGFest-o-Con '06 - Chicago, July 21st to 23rd !!
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caspian_x wrote:
I'd like to echo Krystyn's sentiments about staying in a central location, even if it costs a few extra bucks. You'll never know what wacky adventures you'll miss if you're in a different hotel. Now, if you're the type that goes to bed before all that stuff happens anyway, perhaps it's not as big a deal. Still, trips such as ARGfest NEVER go according to Plan A and on-the-fly decisions are often made with majority consensus. If you stay somewhere else, you may miss those chances for in put as well.


Echoed again.

Instead of having to Plan An Activity to do breakfast together, for example, we just all stumbled into the hotel's restaurant when we woke up.

It was nice and casual and wouldn't have happened if we hadn't all been staying in the same hotel.
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Another echo of krystyn's point... staying in the same hotel (even if exiled to the most-distant wing from the BYOSP room *grin*) made the social aspect of the ARGfest much simpler by chopping out a big chunk of travel time... and probably saved a ton of money on cab fare or gas.

krystyn wrote:
I think Varin did a great job of finding a hotel that would accomodate everyone who wanted to attend, while also providing a location near public transportation, our largest airport, and a fairly casual atmosphere.


I'll also second this point; all these contributed to making the stay that much more pleasant. Thank you, Varin, for the wonderful arrangements!

-- Steve has yet to dig through his trip photos yet... still catching up on stuff left undone during the time away. (Like sleep.)
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Another reason - the herding of cats is much easier when they all start in one place. A certain reluctance to make a lot of firm plans in advance meant that detailed plans for who was going where or what was actually going to be seen didn't actually get made until it was time to go do the next thing. And that required a group in a single location to reach consensus. And konamouse to organize. People who could only be rounded up by phone generally lost the opportunity to influence where or when the cats eventually went.
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aliendial wrote:
And that required a group in a single location to reach consensus. And konamouse to organize.


/me has never previously been known as a cat herder. Rolling Eyes

I also agree that having the headquarters hotel made the evening social activities a hell of a lot more entertaining and accessible. Maybe adjoining rooms if possible? definitely need a hotel with high speed internet (and next year bring your webcams), a nice friendly coffee shop (that won't kick us out for spending 90 minutes during breakfast as various folks find their way out of their rooms and down for coffee), still nice to have options for daytime activities (and designated "leaders" for these options), and the set-in-stone dinner/entertainment plans.

Speaking of coffee - if you want guarenteed good stuff, might want to bring your own - that Holiday Inn swill was terrible. Hence the large line at Starbucks on Saturday night. Cool
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Wish UFers claimed the room next to the BYOSP room. We could have opened the doors and had a less cramped museum. And we probably wouldn't have been yelled at in the middle of the night.
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EGo wrote:
We could have opened the doors and had a less cramped museum.


Agreed, the museum was difficult. We probably should have gotten off our butts (I know, I know) and taken it downstairs where Bags & I had rooms across the hall from each other. We could have spread it out and then milled about mingling, reminiscing, and observing a bit more. Though, it may have been almost as cramped as I know that some people didn't put all their stuff out because of the lack of space.

So, yeah, if we do the museum in the future - we should get a nice sized dedicated space or use several rooms in close proximity to one another.

Who knew we'd accumlated so much stuff?!

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imbri wrote:
Who knew we'd accumlated so much stuff?!


In hindsight, I think reserving that conference room would have been a good idea, even though it was pricey. It would have been easier to organize the swag that way too.
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At peak times of the year, I imagine it would be difficult for a hotel to be able to guarantee rooms next to each other. I suppose the organizer could try to work it out, but yeah. Hm.
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krystyn wrote:
I suppose the organizer could try to work it out, but yeah. Hm.


I guess maybe it wouldn't be a good thing to say "we like to stay up really late and drink and be really loud so ummm could you put us all on the same floor"? Wink
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Varin wrote:
krystyn wrote:
I suppose the organizer could try to work it out, but yeah. Hm.


I guess maybe it wouldn't be a good thing to say "we like to stay up really late and drink and be really loud so ummm could you put us all on the same floor"? Wink


I don't know if it'd be up to the organizer or people when they check in. I gather that most rooms are generated on the fly as people come in. So it'd be up to us to mention that we're in town as part of a group and it'd be great if we could have rooms near one another. It's worked for me in the past with weddings. Not everyone was near one another, but I've gotten a couple adjacent rooms before. Although I've also known the full names of some of the other people... it's a bit more difficult to say "so when konamouse or axys denied or thunderclap check in, it'd be great if we could all be right near one another!"

I can't imagine that it's that odd of a request and I'd think hotels would prefer to put people closer together than having them running back and forth through the halls. But, if it doesn't work out, perhaps we'll get lucky again and have a situation like Bags & I being across the hall from one another.

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the other choice is to organize the event as an umbrella, so 'ARGfest' would reserve rooms as a group at the hotel (likely by a deadline for those we know are coming), then they can be handed out on arrival, or people can organize which rooms they'll take... as opposed to reserving individually and organizing who's sharing what rooms.

So say a month before the event, we find out who's coming, and reserve a block of rooms under 'ARGfest' - if it costs up front, then money needs to be in to whoever does the reservation. If people decide to come after the deadline, then it's cross your fingers for a close room (as it was this year it seems).

Is that feasible? In a way, we'd be making argfest more like a conference than a social gathering of friends Smile
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thebruce wrote:
So say a month before the event, we find out who's coming, and reserve a block of rooms under 'ARGfest' - if it costs up front, then money needs to be in to whoever does the reservation. If people decide to come after the deadline, then it's cross your fingers for a close room (as it was this year it seems).


I'm not sure if it's this way for all hotels, but when I called to hold the rooms I had the option of reserving them all myself on my credit card or letting all of you reserve your own. I opted for the reserve your own method because I wasn't prepared to pay for 15 rooms if something went wrong and everyone cancelled at the very last minute Shocked Wink
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And you need more than a month in advance (like 3 or 4 months). When obtaining a group rate, you have a certain number of rooms you are negotiating (the more you can guarentee, the better the rate) and you can ask if they will be available close together. But bottom line, it's up to the individuals to try to get them close together by knowing friend's real names and asking to be placed together (or far away) when you make your own reservation.

After arrival, when proximity is noted, then designated Museum rooms may be set up. Party room just 'happens' (I don't think it was pre-planned).
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Agree with pretty much everything y'all have said. There is no substitute for everyone being in the same place, the logistics of having to figure out the when/where/how of meeting up becomes trivial.

I gotta admit, I was iffy on the whole airport hotel thing in the beginning. Would it have been nice to be closer to Downtown Chicago? Probably. Would we have had as many attendees as we did? Almost certainly not. And if given the choice between having 10 ARGFest attendees at a $250/night hotel that's centrally located, or double that at the $109/night not-as-convenient airport hotel, I'll take the latter every time. Because, if I may get a little touchy-feely for a moment, it's all about us being together.

And yes, a hostel or something like that would've been cheaper, but then again, the BYOSP'ers split a room 5 ways and ended up paying, what, $25 per head per night? Granted that's not for everyone, but hey.

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bagsbee wrote:
I gotta admit, I was iffy on the whole airport hotel thing in the beginning. Would it have been nice to be closer to Downtown Chicago? Probably. Would we have had as many attendees as we did? Almost certainly not. And if given the choice between having 10 ARGFest attendees at a $250/night hotel that's centrally located, or double that at the $109/night not-as-convenient airport hotel, I'll take the latter every time. Because, if I may get a little touchy-feely for a moment, it's all about us being together.


The other thing, is while the travel can reduce the amount of time at the destination, it allows for more oppertunity for us to hang out and just enjoy each others company. If we hadn't had to travel back to the hotel, we never would have ended up playing TAG on the metro station platform, or taken that group shot by the payphone.

Btw, my write up is here, sorry about the late posting, I almost never wander over to these parts anymore.
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