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[beglee]

Just looked the Rosetta Stone up on wikipedia and it says:
"The Rosetta Stone is a dark granite stone (often incorrectly identified as basalt) with writing on it in two languages, Egyptian and Greek, using three scripts, Hieroglyphic, Demotic Egyptian and Greek."

So Demotic Egyptian is the language you're looking for locqust

[cronogenesis]

Ive translated it into a numeric standard using the site given earlier.

200-5 300-50-2 8 300-5
200-60-4 400-90-3 300-80-4 300-10-3
100-20-3 200-4 400-60-8 50 200-5
100-40-3 4-30-3 ...........4-20
200-20-1............... 5
5-20-1.............400-60-6
300-10-2.........400-80-7


The - means its the same word
. is the gaps

[doublecross]

crono,

That is exactly what I have been thinking it might be and what I've been working on in the last few minutes!

Putting each 'word' together, gives you a number. They all obey the 'hundreds,tens,units' rule (or shorter) except that pesky one at the beginning of the second-last line. Perhaps that's a mistake and should be 500-10-7=517. Also, where you have the 4s in the 4th line, I found a site where a 'terminal nun' stands for 700.

Treating them as single numbers (with some where I differ from crono) gives:

208 352 8 305
264 493 384 316
123 204 468 50 205
143 533 530
221 5
?517 466
312 487

What next? Since we are talking about ciphers of history, this brings me in mind of the Beale cipher, which was also a set of numbers. Each number n corresponded to the first letter of the nth word of the Declaration of Independence. I've tried these with the DoI but it gives gibberish (AAIKSOSUCAFTSTOTBOIHWT), so perhaps another text is used instead. I'm not sure what it is, though. I've tried letters in the Beale text itself, but (a) I can't get a consistent translation and (b) they're all gibberish anyway.

I think that these numbers correspond to letter positions, or word positions, or initials of words, in some text that we need to identify.

[chichiri]

maybe a perplexian history text!!!! The war info that's been up in the sentinel!!!!

might as well try it!!!!

no da

[cronogenesis]

didnt Von say it was TWICE as hard. Perhaps if we half the numbers or something...

[choob]

I am new to this forum but been giving this a lot of thought. I got a friend to decipher the hebrew into numbers and came up with almost the identical ones that Doublecross did. It occurred to me that the xy=600 on the board equates to the letters position in the alphabet being multiplied together (24 x 25 = 600). I then looked at each of the numbers being two letters. So 208 could equal 16 x 13. This would then equate to PM. There is a bit more to it but certainly a lot of the other numbers have factors that fall within the range of 1 to 26 but there are one or two that do not, and even then it doesn't look like it's making a lot of sense. Just thought I would add my findings to see if someone else can take it further. I gotta get some sleep so won't be able to work on it further till tomorrow. Good luck.

[Kvasir]

[Kvasir]

[Kvasir]

[tomkirkman]

I found this site while translating these characters:

http://www.i18nguy.com/unicode/hebrew-numbers.html

I think that row 4 characters 4 and 7 are a "final kaf" which according to this is 500 although isn't used in Gematria.

I would agree with the latest numbers posted but I think line 4 is

143 533 502

Where next?
I've tried decoding against the DoI and then applying a caesar cipher but didn't get anywhere.

I think the typo applies to 5-17 in row 5 which should have had a space between the characters.

I'm still thinking why are the characters in lines 4-7 spaced so awkwardly?
and where does XY=600 come into things?

[fantasticalan]

[Kvasir]

So now we are looking at:

208, 352, 8, 305
264, 493, 384, 316
123, 204, 468, 50, 205
143, 533, 520
221, 5
5, 17, 466
312, 487

With a bit of uncertainty about the 5, 17 on line 6.*

I've been looking at the shadowy symbols running perpendicular to the writing. I can just about make out the number 466 in hebrew characters in the gap between the "numbers"/"words" on lines 5, 6 and 7. Still not sure if this is relevant.

I've been trying to think about the layout of the lettering, but can't think of anything. There certainly doesn't appear to be a system of columns.


*by which I mean, I'm not happy with the logic here.

[GasparLewis]

Something tells me the underwriting might be a red herring; the xy=600, too.

Maybe Prof. Hale is a teacher in the mathematics department?

(Bah, what do I know...)

[Stiltskin]

I'm new to this game, so I'm playing catch up. Anyhow, got this card and I also have a black dot on the S in measures. As my card is a pre-release version wave 0.5 then I'm guessing it's not a printing error.

Stretching my memory back, typos were important in at least on Beast puzzle so maybe this typo is intentional as well.

[Kvasir]