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[puzzle] Silver - #248 - Differently Lethal
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sherbet
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 		elo. as there have been several occasions where ppl have tried fails already posted, i thought id gather up the confirmed fails to make life easier. ive prob missed some, so sorry fer when you notice.

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glucose----------------------lactose------------------------Thalidomide

Penicillamine----------------Cyanide----------------------Anthrax

beta lactam-----------------penicillin---------------------- ricin

arsenic----------------------rohypnol----------------------AIDs

HIV--------------------------onion-------------------------viagra

Water------------------------ebola-------------------------avian flu

silver------------------------silver nitrate---------------- mercury

argentum-------------------aluminium--------------------LSD

silver manganese---------- Penicillium chrysogenum

lysergic acid diethylamide---------------------------------ergot

heroin------------------------morphine--------------------- niacin

ceretin---------------------- isoniazid---------------------- ICE

vitaminb3------------------- isonicotinic acid hydrazine

C5H4NCONHNH2------------nicotinic acid----------------- pepsin

paracetamol----------------- N-acetyl-p-benzoquinone-imine

acetaminophen--------------Acetylcholinesterase

ICEBERG---------------------immunoglobulin---------------MILK

the common cold-----------Aspirin------------------------- Lysine

Pantothenic Acid------------ Potassium Chloride----------- KCl

Potassium Cyanide---------atropine------------------------ tRNA

Phenylalanine--------------- health-------------------------cyanide

carbon-----------------------silicon dioxide----------------- arsenic-

hydrocyanic acid------------permethrin--------------------strychnine

quicksilver-------------------gallium----------------------cocaine

Glass-------------------------powdered glass---------------crushed glass

aluminium------------------- diffraction pattern----------- X-rays

reciprocal lattice------------ Plutonium-------------------- Xrays

Mercury Chloride------------ HCN------------------------ Hydrogen Cyanide

KCN--------------------------- Arsenic Disulphide--------- RNA

myelin-------------------------Bacillus anthracis---------- liquid crystal

aluminium oxide--------------alumina---------------------diamond

SALT-------------------------- SODIUM CHLORIDE-------- ANTACIDS

rolaids------------------------- amphojel--------------------maalox

Crystal meth------------------ Uraninite-------------------- nacl

copper------------------------- Myoglobin------------------- Poison

Hemlock------------------------Coniine---------------------Obsidian

Porcupine-----------------------Graphite-------------------sex lethal

protein--------------------------radiation-------------------crystal

asenolamprite (think its a def fail)------------------------crystallography



PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:59 pm
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Nightingale
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 		I tried to think about this laterally. Didn't work. So having read the thread with the mention of cyanide I thought that perhaps it could have something to do with old ways people tried to kill one another.

I tried:
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Glass, powdered glass, crushed glass


It didn't work - I'm very tired so I realise that I'm thinking in loops. Random fact: Woman who used to powder their faces to make them look paler actually used an arsenic-based powder. I'm talking a while ago.

This one's gonna annoy me as much as the Montgreen card - it's ringing a little bell in the back of my brain but that bell doesn't seem to be attached to anything.

It couldn't be
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salt
could it?

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 		my fails:

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aluminium, diffraction pattern, reciprocal lattice

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:05 pm
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Uhtoff
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 		Few more of my fails for you Wink

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Plutonium, Xrays, X-rays, Mercury Chloride, HCN, Hydrogen Cyanide, KCN, Arsenic Disulphide


From the symmetry of the x-ray diff pattern I'd say it's likely to be a monoclinic crystal structure (it amazing how much more physical chemistry I know now that a week ago Wink ) which is where I got hold of
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plutonium - which I thought went well with differently lethal, but nevermind
also all of the
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arsenides
seem to be monoclinic, but it seems very harsh that we should have to go through all the different
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arsenic salts
in order to get the right one.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:11 pm
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Catsworth
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 		Just thinking out loud here but.....couldn't a "Hall of Mirrors" be described as a "Silver Maze"?

Given that some of the silver cards come from the "Silver Maze" set, perhaps there's something more in the cards that we need to give us a clue to this one.....that might explain Von's clue - maybe.....

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Nightingale
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 		Having gone with the mirror clue, I have come up with the following:

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Some mirrors are made of aluminium oxide or alumina and also types of aluminium (rolaids, amphojel, and maalox) are a group of antacids which people ca be allergic to. They produce a toxicity and have been linked to Alzheimer's disease


Also on a lighter note, The Hall of Mirrors is a room in the Château de Versailles and many references of it are in Marie Antoinette's diary. Which lead me to the answer: Cake. or Ego. Neither of which seem likely but I thought that it was mildly amusing.

Has this been tried?

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Cocaine - as I have seen in the movies they put it on glass and cut it into lines with a mirror or something along those lines? It can be deadly? I'm an innocent person so I don't know a lot about it. Never done it - never wanted to.


I also found I quote from the wiki again rather amusing:

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Mirrors, along with labyrinths, figure prominently in the work of Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges, who often used them as symbols of infinity, impersonation, and illusion. In The Zahir, he writes of fearing that his reflection would move independently or change shape before his eyes. In Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius, a fictional heresiarch declares that "mirrors and copulation are abominable, since they both multiply the numbers of men."

Anyone want to input copulation? Laughing

Finally, going on with my previously mentioned theory:

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Salt or sodium chloride or ediable salt - a little is good a lot is bad.


I'm locked out until 9pm and I have my works Christmas party tonight - but if anyone wants to elimate some of the possiblies I have listed above - knock yourself out.

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cocaine
has been tried. no joy.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:20 am
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cassandra wrote:
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cocaine
has been tried. no joy.


Just say no Cassandra.
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Gibbet
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 		Under controlled laboratory conditions I have tested the resulting material produced from scratching off the silver panel from this card and a random sample (mostly Whipsmart Wordsearch, why, why so many?) of other cards.

These concoctions were then fed to a series of volunteers who were monitored 24hours a day and the effects of the samples on their health observed.

The participants on the placebo silver panel samples reported no change in health, whereas those on the #248 silver panel samples keeled over and died within hours.

So ladies and gentlemen, I present you with the answer. The card is indeed differently lethal!


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**NOTE** The above accounts may or may not have actually happened. And even if they did, rest assured that no test subjects were harmed in the testing out of this theory. In fact the only comments reported were along the lines of, "hmm, tastes a bit like chicken".


But i'd wash my hands after using this card, just in case! (Remember the 3rd Power are everywhere! Very Happy )

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sherbet
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 		LOL! you silly billy gib! Very Happy

so todays fails...

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myelin,Bacillus anthracis (thought it may have been before,but couldnt find it, prob has tho), and liquid crystal


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Nightingale
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 		Well, my fails today are:

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Alas, SALT, SODIUM CHLORIDE (I'm now stricken with doubt over how I spelt Sodium) and ANTACIDS. Boo hoo.


Well tomorrow is another day.

Sigh

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darklord
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 		Still stuck on the common cold but don't have the card so...

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searched for rossmann and found no posts
http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html3month/02SUM.PERS.Rossman.html

"Rossmann is widely recognized for developing X-ray crystallography techniques to study particularly small molecular structures, such as viruses."

Try Michael Rossmann?

"In 1985, he became the first scientist to build a model of human rhinovirus-14, HRV-14, one of about 100 known cold virus strains."

Possibly HRV-14

"Fellow group member, Richard Kuhn, who worked with Rossmann to map the first flavivirus, the lethal dengue virus carried by mosquitoes, says Rossmann's intensity and sheer fondness for his work are constant positive influences on the scientists around him."

Flavivirus perhaps


or from http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_815943.htm

"The U.S. Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta said the virus causing Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome - an atypical pneumonia that has caused at least 17 deaths around the world - was from the Coronaviridae group, rather than a Paramyxoviridae family as previously suspected. "
"Coronaviruses belong to the two main types that cause common colds, which also include rhinoviruses. First isolated from chickens in 1937, there are about 13 species known in the Coronaviridae family, which infect not only humans and birds, but also cattle, pigs, rodents, cats and dogs."

Coronavirus


So if someone could try these.....

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 		I've been watching this thread for a while now, but never had anything to contribute, as my chemistry/physics stopped at O level - and was many years ago Smile

Is it possible that an answer would be so complex, that only a handful of the world's top scientists could get it? Could it not be a sideways step in thought, and much simpler?

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 		Again, my tries for today:

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aluminium oxide, alumina, and diamond


Fail. Fail. Fail.

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