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Viard - The Silver City CD
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Jakeo
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Considering what seems to be happening to compromised 3P agents, she may want to bargain for her life, which is a little cruel on our part but it is her fault for getting involved with 3P in the first place.


I like the way you think. Screw the authorities, becuase they clearly can't be trusted. (If Helena is 3P, who else is?) I suspect that if Helena is 3P and we tell anyone she will wind up dead before revealing too much.

This is of course assuming that she is 3P.

I'm still inclined to think that the whole message is a red herring to throw us off the scent while still passing a message to the 3P here on earth. She could be 3P that they are throwing to the wolves, or more likely they just don't like her but she is too obvious a target. Police killings are always more aggressively investigate than any other.

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2) Garnet would be an excellent choice, but have we ever had any luck contacting anyone from the CRT except Kurt? The only people that I'm aware that we can send are those with blogs and Sylvia (who is most likely not responding to her email atm).


We have email addresses for a few others - that baker from the Ascendancy Point and the crazy nun from the Brotherhood are two that spring to mind. I don't know that we've ever tried contacting anyone else from the CRT, though if someone with a convincing story wanted to try it might be a good idea to email Sente's assistant Patrick Azadian (patrick.azadianSPLATperplexcityacademy.com) asking for contact information. That way you wouldn't have to let Kurt know what you were trying to do.
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 		Total and utter speculation, you realise:

Perhaps we should be more dubious about this message?

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1. wenicke's aria


It was mentioned earlier that this track title looks very much like the name for area of the brain that handles speech and language; "Wernicke's Area"... as you can see, it appears that their "wenicke's aria" has been damaged Wink

People with Wernicke's damage (Wernicke's aphasia) are capable of understanding speech, but are unable to speak or write anything coherent. Perhaps this is a warning to us?

So should any of the information on this CD be taken for real? Especially in light of the morse at the end.

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 		just found this site and thought it might be relevant. doesnt appear to have much on it at the mo but could be usful re: the underground station

http://www.perplexcitysubway.com

(sorry if this has been mentioned before, still a bit of a noob!)

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 		This was found quite a while ago. If you're not sure if something has been posted before there's a search function in the top right hand corner of the forum.

Welcome aboard though!
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 		sorry!

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 		Well I agree that with any sort of stake out there is a risk of alerting the 3P ... but we would only *want* a stake out if we are working under the assumption that the whole thing is a 3P trap in the first place. Given that then the worst that the stake out can do is scare them off (or they could bring more people and overpower the stake out, but they they could do that to a lone representative too).

Some of this discussion is academic anyway, since Kurt has already been mailed and told the details, but I am still in favour of sending at least two people (say Kurt and Garnet), and making sure that at least one person (if not all of them) stay out of site prepared to get help, or follow whoever turns up.

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 		Did anyone head to Croydon in the end?

I would expect the flame lighting to be related to the PCA Games if Gillett Road is now definitely in Perplex City. Emails to Garnet bounce back, so I'm trying something else.

I haven't heard my CD yet, but I get the impressions these items will be more revealing than the puzzle cards themselves.

PS. If no-one spotted, the dotted code under the TSOL on the Leitmarks in the Starter Pack translates to EBUC. Genius.

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 		Hi everyone – my first post!

I got the Viard cd two days ago and have only now had a chance to listen to it and I agree with everyone who is sceptical about the message at the end. It very much feels like an add on and is just too obvious.

This is from the Hesh Recors website: "Static burst into a bright image -- it took a while before Helix realised that he was looking at the sun sparkling over a beautiful deep green sea. Viard came into view briefly and all Helix could hear were the words, 'I've got to go... the music explains everything.'".

So I think there's a lot hidden in the music and listening to it there are several parts with unintelligble words, different language, really slowed down passages etc which someone with a bit of technical know-how could probably decipher. Can't wait to find out more... brain is already hurting... think I need more sleep...
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 		Just another thread to follow with this CD, have we checked that all of us have got the same wording on the inner sleeve?

The message there seems quite relevant and I wouldn't put it past the Perplexians (or somebody) to have split the message across several CDs.

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 		Exploring the theory that there is more to this CD than the message at the end....

Wernicke's Aria: An operatic song with out words - implies that this track is speaking to the right Wernicke's region of the brain, through Wernicke's commands or subliminal messaging. I have used a sound package to normalise this track and listen to the station like announcement, but as usual you can only pick out bits of it. The bit that I can hear a couple of times is Listen ...this is a special announcement.

Culture shock: This song is obviously a key as it is the only one with obviously spoken words. The words seem to indicate a link between two cultures, but differing lessons learnt (earth and Perplex?). The last sentence very deliberately refers to two musical terms "counterpoint" and "sharp", not exactly sure where that leads us though.

Is the counterpoint hiding a message, or is it (being polyphonic) the message, do we need to change the key and use a music code? Or is it a matter of expression and interpretation, much like classical composer such as schumann have used previously.

Personally I hated the music puzzle in Myst, I have a nasty feeling this is going to be ten hundred times worse!

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Belogroak wrote:
Personally I hated the music puzzle in Myst, I have a nasty feeling this is going to be ten hundred times worse!


What was the puzzle in Myst?
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 		It required you to be able to replay a tune after hearing it on a series of button presses, but you needed to get the timing and pitch just right, from memory.

My brother got it right first time, which is really strange as I was the musician. However in that instance I was tone deaf.

Don't think its going to be a hint for this one.

Bel

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 		[Spec] Is Viard a Platoist?
Further investigation into the titles of Viard's songs leads to an interesting connection, although I realise I may be forcing it a bit.

"Wernicke's Aria" implies Wernicke's area part of the brain that deals with the subconscious, previously believed to be reflections of messages from the gods or subliminal messages.

"Heartfelt" as it says reflects your subconscious feelings in your heart or in your soul.

"When we were young" implies subconscious reaction based on past experiences,psychology, philosophy, the works of Jung (a Platoist)

"Conchis" This was the start of my delve into platoism. William Conchis caused a religious furore in the 12th Century. He applied Plato's theories to religion by particularly emphasising the third power of the trinity the Holy Ghost or Soul.

"Culture Shock" This was the key association with Plato. Plato and Aristotle represented 2 different approaches to the works of Socrates (interpretation of the same world).

Plato is the philosopher of the beyond, of the great metaphysical questions, and of the religious spirit. Aristotle is the exponent of what has come to be called the 'scientific method,' the careful study of observed data, and the commonsensical drawing of conclusions . . .

Plato supports the third power, Aristotle the fourth. Plato suggests that the fourth power (reality) is a reflection of the the third (spiritual) plain.

"Treasured Chest", "Inversion" & "incandescent" are all related to the works of Plato (Pandora's Box, The Great inversion, and the sun)

"Journey from the centre" could be a reference to another platoist St Bonaventure who proposed the third power of the Soul was the greater good. It would link well the Weinricke's aria and heartfelt, as St Bonventure wrote a book called "Journey from the mind to god". He followed a similar line of thought to Conchis and implied that the longest journey for a us is from the mind to the heart.

"Southbound" is the only connection I can't make.

I have managed to make a few other connections as well, but thought everyone would get the general gist from this.

Incidentally Plato's third power is passive, and a cube that creates two harmonies....

Now can I be bothered to dust off my copy of "The republic" to see if this is really a reflection of the third power on earth?

Regards

Bel

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 		Hi,

this may all be rubbish and I've not actually heard the CD myself but the thoughts just popped into my head all of a sudden and I couln't get rid of them:

Caine Johansson is a member of the academy
Caine Johansson is a specialist in musical number sequences
Caine is very interested in popular and classical music
Caine is also called Tristan (possibly a member of the reconstructionists)

Is it possible that Caine created the CD or is in some way involved with the recon. or the 3P?

Maybe there is something in the rythmns or tone sequences on the CD

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