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[META] What are you bringing to the next live event?
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chichiri
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I got lots of "wrong" people as maybes, I have a friend and cousin with karate black belts, a cousin with brown-1 stripe and my sister is going for black, also my uncle teaches karate!!

Hey, I could start an army!

All hail chichiri, the ruler of bunnydom with his army of pretty-pink bunny-suited family-karate-peoples!!!

*heads over to antarctica to re-establish it as bunnydom, bunnies all die of pneumonia*

Damn!! now I have to settle for killer moles in moleville, formerly the sahara!!!

Quote:
There.
Will.
Be.
No.
Mole.

We'll just see about that!!

*starts stuffing moles in big black sack to shove down the chimneys of london*

no da

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Juxta
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Completely agree with Chris and Reason, it's unlikely that there will be one, firstly because the Third Power have "been there and done that". Secondly, if they wanted to put a mole in, we're not exactly going to be able to stop them...witness what happened last time - "I saw this ad in the Metro for this, so came along" ((Nor should we want to, in the interests of the progression of the storyline/game))

Finally, I'm not submitting to any bag searches - I don't want some feelthy, steenkin' tea-leaf rummaging in my handbag and making off with my lippy.

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GasparLewis
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oliverkeers13 wrote:
There.
Will.
Be.
No.
Mole.


Allow us our paranoia is peace, man! (Razz)

Anyway, yeah, a mole would bare no effect on the games if they go as planned. Simply because we have been told that the game will be organized by Mind Candy (which they will) doesn't mean the Third Power has nothing planned to screw with us during it. There could be a nice little prize at the event that the 3P wants to win, someone they want to eliminate as a threat (OOG: another character, obviously), or a number of other reasons to wreak havoc on the games. There's no certainty of anything, so I wouldn't call it safe to lock yourself to any position. Of course, I highly doubt we'll need ninjas and bag searches (come, now, all that's just silly), but a keen and working eye couldn't hurt.

Safer to assume there will be and waste vigilance than to assume not and waste a chance at key information, no?
Within reason, natch.

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GasparLewis wrote:
Safer to assume there will be and waste vigilance than to assume not and waste a chance at key information, no?


Assuming we do look out for a mole-how would you go about finding them on the day and once you have, how would you extract information from the mole?
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Well, I suppose there's no way really to figure that out until the events of the days present themselves. In short: I don't know.

Allow me to break TINAG for a moment to try:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Finding out the mole's indentity and th nature of their presence will, of course, prove difficult, if undoable until the damage is done. No idea on that front, considering a player-made ID system wouldn't cover non-UF players (might aid along, though; narrow down and all). But, as for extraction, if such were to occur, I suppose there could be a set of characters operating with us, who'll do the dirty work for us, like the event administrators or something.


My point was really just not to totally shut out the idea. Where there's a live event, there's a way. Wink

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poozle
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travelling performer? wrote:
poozle wrote:
Hmmmm, I'll bring my cam phone (if I can make it) and myself, and money. And some of my ppc spares (I might finally be able to get rid of my 5 Whipsmart Wordsearch spares, oh and read between the lines).


Id have one of those whipsmarts Smile Im gonna bring a bunch of spares along, including a couple of silvers.


You DON'T have whipsmart, lol, anyway, your welcome to one if you search me out at the event (I'll probably be wearing a Linkin Park T-Shirt and Jeans). I also have multiple copies of Milo and Ishihara for anyone interested Wink

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poozle wrote:
travelling performer? wrote:
poozle wrote:
Hmmmm, I'll bring my cam phone (if I can make it) and myself, and money. And some of my ppc spares (I might finally be able to get rid of my 5 Whipsmart Wordsearch spares, oh and read between the lines).


Id have one of those whipsmarts Smile Im gonna bring a bunch of spares along, including a couple of silvers.


You DON'T have whipsmart, lol, anyway, your welcome to one if you search me out at the event (I'll probably be wearing a Linkin Park T-Shirt and Jeans). I also have multiple copies of Milo and Ishihara for anyone interested Wink


No, i dont have whipsmart. 3 polars, but no whipsmart. Its been avoiding me.

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Mikeyj
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European Chris wrote:
GasparLewis wrote:
Safer to assume there will be and waste vigilance than to assume not and waste a chance at key information, no?


Assuming we do look out for a mole-how would you go about finding them on the day and once you have, how would you extract information from the mole?


Having booked my train tickets today and been to tesco to get the weeks shopping (all my best thinking is done whilst sorting through manky veg to find the good stuff) I have been thinking about this and at risk of opening an old can of worms, probably past its best:

From the perspective of the 3P, surely a meeting of people that are supposed to be finding the cube on this scale, where spectators are allowed (all this information available from MC websites, and general e-mails, not from the forum) this is a perfect opportunity to make contact. Also I think that hitching a ride as an anonynous mole was attempted last time, and therefore, not as likely to be used this time.

Directly approaching someone, or a number of people, without arousing MCs suspicions would be relatively easy with a gathering on this scale.

Putting all this aside; we should be ready, however unlikely we think this. We've a large number of people placed in PCAG games themselves, as spectators, and online. If some sort of response needs to be mounted we can organise things in advance here to make everything so much easier. Presumably 3P will be fairly well organised (they can manage a helicopter), so if they're going to be a presence at all, it will be an organised one.

So far, and I don't mean this offensively, we've been purely reactionary, but with a little bit of forethought about what might be needed then we can be prepared just in case.
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In light of the message recveived in the NY PCAG...please read above post again Rolling Eyes
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I think we will be told what we need to be told at the appropriate time. The PCAG event and all the players should be considered as bananas. Approaching people to get information out of them is just going to be uncomfortable.

Lets just concentrate on enjoying ourselves.
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Mikeyj
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Not really what I mean...you're right, that would be very uncomfortable. Just suggesting that we could be a little more prepared. Is there anything extra that we'll need, could be of use, that we should make sure that at least the unforum teams have available in case we have to respond to something quickly? Rather than letting shit happen?

Not suggesting clip-board and psychometric "Are you a 3P member" questionnaire...


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I don't think there's anything we can do other than be reactive. If we suspect someone is a mole what can we do? If we ask them if they are a mole and they say 'no' we move on. If they say 'yes' we can't do anything anyway.

And letting stuff happen is good, it's fun-even if it is 'bad'. If we had seen the mole at Clapham try to get on the helicopter we could have held him until he got a bit annoyed or let him get on the helicopter which just looked cool.

Playing this game is a reactionary process, our actions don't mould the story arc so lets just worry about what we can control and not worry about what we can't and just 'ave a laugh.
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[spec] I think when they're explaining everything to us some guy will come in with a hostage or something. [/spec] Wink
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Chris, I don't entirely agree Very Happy

I'm not sure where the mole tracking thing has come from, but that's been mooted above and I don't think that's practicable at all. If something does happen it will be made known somehow (coded message slipped into a couple of the teams start packs, or something strange in Holborn somewhere...yes my descriptive powers have left me).

Letting stuff happen might be fun (and yes, there isn't much you can do to stop a helicopter taking off...maybe throw bricks at its rotor...although, I might feel guilty if one hit something), but it's decidedly unARGish.

/me assuming fat meta hat...not sure I need to, but it's snug and I've just had a shower and the draft from my oversized perspex windows (with bars, this IS Liverpool you know) is making my head chilly.

If we do not influence the story arc in any way then this is merely a rather shiny puzzle trail, with card-shaped knobs on. (and therefore, frankly...a bit dull...if someone made me one like this for my birthday though, I would be impressed...maybe MC are attempting to impress someone...is this just an attempt to get girls/guys?)

Yes, much of the time we are presented with choices that are yes/no in nature, presumably there are two potential arcs, or maybe these decisions affect something much further down the line (for example, did us telling sente about violet and the recons simply put her off us for a bit, or will it come back to haunt us later, when we find out that violet has been trailed this whole time by one of her dad's mates? Perhaps cmulative betrayals is what will cause problems/plot twists). If we don't do things by a certain time, or in a certain way then a particular path is chosen.

Particularly with a live event it is not possible to prescribe all the action in this way. You can try and limit choices, but there will be a large number of people there with different ideas of how to respond (with larger or smaller amounts of knowledge as to wtf is going on) and something is bound to happen that the PMs haven't planned for. This is where we test their mettle and see how well they can think on the fly. This sounds like I'm advocating utter disruption of the precedings (a reverse flash-mob when they say good morning?), but that's not my intention...I just wanted to crap all over "our actions don't mould the story arc so lets just worry about what we can control and not worry about what we can't" without crapping on "and just 'ave a laugh.", which is prbably the most important thing.

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Should've used some sort of stencil perhaps.

I've thought of a lovely Syzygy analogy to tie my whole ideology together. Brace yourselves, this might be tenuous. Project Syzygy was so called (at least I think this was the conclusion) because MC was bringing two things into line with itself: Perplexcity and its denizens, Earth and us lot. I reckon that your view is exemplified by a central MC controlling both arms. It's not (in my opinion; that's a terrbible addition to that lovely two word sentence, why do I feel the need?). There's feedback in all directions and we don't have a Syzygy at all; it's conceptually a triangle with reaction and proaction along all three sides.

Although it would be better as a square. Maybe it is if you get the 3P on Earth involved as well.

Have read this back and I don't think would win any prizes for essay writing, but I;ve made myself late for work and will be thinking of better things I could have written to prove my point (or make it more muddled) all the way there.

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Mikeyj wrote:


Letting stuff happen might be fun (and yes, there isn't much you can do to stop a helicopter taking off...maybe throw bricks at its rotor...although, I might feel guilty if one hit something), but it's decidedly unARGish.

<SNIP>

If we do not influence the story arc in any way then this is merely a rather shiny puzzle trail, with card-shaped knobs on. (and therefore, frankly...a bit dull...if someone made me one like this for my birthday though, I would be impressed...maybe MC are attempting to impress someone...is this just an attempt to get girls/guys?)



YAY! This isn't some Steve Jackson novel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Fantasy_Game_Books) where all the possible outcomes have been decided and its just a case of how we choose them.

Its clear from whats gone on before that MC want to demonstrate the power of the ARG (an entire collaborative book, cracking a distributed.net code), and that the boys down at MC can wing a good story (Has anyone who has spoken to a character managed to throw out their cover?).

In short, MC are shaping up to make this a special thing, and some potted response story line would not be that.

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