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[thrush]

Hmm,

I say we send Kurt, but I do suspect it's an evil trap.

Gaspar, I support your idea - I think he deserves a certain level of confidence if we are sending him into danger. Besides, I actually trust him.

[chichiri]

It has my support!

Though I'm not sure that means much.

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[Muffin]

I still think Kurt is the man for the job.

Him and Violet and the most trustworthy & dependable people were working with in PPC, to be honest.

I think we should tell Kurt everything and win his confidence some more. We are, after all, putting him into a possibly dangerous situation. If he decides he would like back up, and he trusts 'someone' enough to watch his back, then I wouldn't have anyting against that.

And ryan - I think you did the right thing, as a group we spend far too much time prevaricating sometimes (not that that is always bad, but...) - we had virtually decided it was kurt about 10 days ago!

Q

[chichiri]

I agree with muffin on this one, Ryan you were bang on the mark sending that e-mail, everything is going so slow around here, do we really have to have a debate on every single matter brought to order?

Since violet, kurt and garnet are all puzzle scribes, they are hardly going to be killed off, and even if they were we would have one less character to suspect

We've already told kurt so much so we might as well fill him in entirely, anyway he shouldn't miss out on all the action while we have the girls doing all the work.

someone just fill him in on the details already, and ask him to suggest someone to support him, this should definitely be violet, garnet or both.

On a coincidetial side-note, I'm actually baking choc-chip muffins right now for a christmas party, (out of curiosity, what flavour are you muffin?)

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[ryandrew]

Sorry to everyone for my sending the message, but it seemed a given that we wanted Kurt involved, and loads of people messaging him at once once we get news of snow in Perplex City seemed likely to scare the beejeezus out of him. Anyway, here is the message:

[Juxta]

[snowchyld]

[drizjr]

From Kurt's blog....

[pickwick the second]

Reporters, while in possession of an admirable propensity for discretion when protecting a sensitive source, are motivated by a desire to publish sensational information they come across; until we know what it is that we are to find at the Gillet Station, and, mayhap, even then, I would recommend against involving the Sentinel in any way. What would be the benefit?

[chichiri]

weally weally sowwy Juxta, I really should think more before posting, hell if I thought at all it would be progress at least.

My new years resolution will be to swim with the trouts for three days whenever I make a stupid mistake like this again (well time to pack my bags and move to the lake district)

I'll make sure I stay in-game in my posts from now on.

Also I'll have you know that zippy is real, he is actually a good friend of mine, I'll even bring him to the next live event and prove it, you shouldn't say things like that if you can't prove them!

And if santy claus isn't real, then who's that moderately obese guy up my chimney???

Also, you must remember that this is the first huge scale commercial ARG and therefore there are many people (like myself) that are new to ARGs, so I'm not saying don't shout at us, but could you at least do it a bit nicer, without crushing everyone's hopes and dreams of finally getting to meet zippy!

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[Muffin]

Okay, this is the last post I'm going to make on this subject. Were all friends here - long may that continue!

I may not be the most prodigious poster, but I have been around for a while, and seen how these things work. I agree wholeheartedly that we must work together as a group, interact sensitively and apply TINAG at all times (well, apart from META discussions!).

However, I do not, and would encourage others not to, worry when something that was not necessarily a consensual decision occurs. As long as it is not totally stupid and against the popular will, then I won't say much.

Anyway, I could waffle on, but thats not my style. As Chichiri said, there are a lot of people learning the ARG trade here, so lets not make the atmosphere bad.

M

[GuyP]

Chichiri, I don't think you need to take anything here as a personal affront, just some polite yet firm criticisms from someone with a differing viewpoint. I happen to agree with Juxta that decisions like these are best made from an "in-game viewpoint" because it makes the whole experience more meaningful - it's a more interesting discussion (in my opinion) to debate how we should deal with 'real people', with all the moral and social reasoing that implies, than to simply second-guess the PMs. That said, I do enjoy making light-hearted jibes at the plentiful foibles of our heros.

Please don't feel offended. I think there's plenty of room for healthy debate within this community, and nobody should feel that they have to toe some kind of imaginary "line", or indeed that the occasional disagreement is anything to be wary of. You're right to comment that this is the first huge scale commercial ARG, and there are no hard and fast rules. By talking about how we think this should work, we can come to actually make it work in a way that's fun for everybody.

Whew! Anyway: good luck, Kurt. You're gonna need it. Although I suspect he'll go blab to all the wrong people!

[GuyP]

Oh! And you know who Kurt really should take? None other than his security-minded, key-wiggling, swashbuckling friend Leo. How about it, guys?

[Hituro]

I think there is more discussion about who he should take than there is who should go ... I think garnet is not a bad choice, but I still feel a stakeout and then following the messenger (if he arrives) is better than actually coming to the meeting as such

[Relish]

i take it kurt hasnt replied yet then!?!