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Myeerah
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 		Ok Lax just sent me an email. I asked him what Murray had to do with Sarah.

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"In April 1977 the Young Liberals' annual conference unanimously passed a motion to call on the Liberal leader (David Steel) to move for the impeachment of Murray for allegedly mishandling a murder case."

LAX


The words 'Young Liberals', 'Liberal', 'David Steel', and 'impeachment' all link to wikipedia enteries.

I dont get it...
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 		I probably live the closest to Toronto (roughly 4-5 hours north), problem is, I don't drive (yes, it's WACKILY strange...it's just my way of opposing conformity in a nice, non-violent fashion). If anything is more north of Toronto, there's a possibility.
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Myeerah wrote:
Ok Lax just sent me an email. I asked him what Murray had to do with Sarah.

Quote:
"In April 1977 the Young Liberals' annual conference unanimously passed a motion to call on the Liberal leader (David Steel) to move for the impeachment of Murray for allegedly mishandling a murder case."

LAX


The words 'Young Liberals', 'Liberal', 'David Steel', and 'impeachment' all link to wikipedia enteries.

I dont get it...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_King_Murray
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Ronald King Murray (15 June 1922) was a Scottish Labour politician and judge.
Educated at George Watson's College, Edinburgh, Edinburgh University and Jesus College, Oxford, he served in the REME and SEAC from 1941 to 1946. He was admitted as an advocate in 1953, served as an Advocate Depute from 1964 to 1970 (from 1967 as a Senior Advocate Depute). He was appointed a Queen's Counsel in 1967.

He was an unsuccessful candidate for Caithness and Sutherland in 1959, Edinburgh North in May 1960, and Roxburgh, Selkirk and Peebles in 1964 and 1965. He was elected and sat for Edinburgh Leith from 1970 until 1979.

He served as Lord Advocate from March 1974 until May 1979, and was appointed a Privy Counsellor in 1974. In 1979 he was appointed to the Court of Session and High Court of Justiciary as a Senator of the College of Justice, with the judicial title Lord Murray.

In April 1977 the Young Liberals' annual conference unanimously passed a motion to call on the Liberal leader (David Steel) to move for the impeachment of Murray for allegedly mishandling a murder case. Despite the urgings of the then chairman of the Young Liberals, Peter Hain, Steel did not call the motion but Murray agrees that the Commons still have the right to initiate an impeachment motion.


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 		Just got this message:
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From: Kevin Kain <kain194@lycos.com>
Date: Dec 31, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: Jack Trevor
To: kender

Kender;

My name is *Kain*, I work with Jack Trevor.

It has come to my attention that Mr. Trevor has been trying to contact people outside of our company regarding one of our cases. This is something that is looked down upon here.

While we do not feet that Mr. Trevor is a threat at this time, we are looking for someone who would be willing to keep us updated as to the nature of his contacts.

Information, such as how you found Mr. Trevor, as well as anything else you would be willing to provide us with would help us out and would be greatly appreciated.

My question to you, at this time, is if you would be willing to be that person?

*Kain*

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I forwarded it to LAX with an encrypted response (in case they do read his email) giving privacy tips and asking how to deal with this.

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 		Okay, more communication:

On #xbox360contestdrawing:
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[12:25] *** LAX (LAXSPLAT307e4d48.de6498d.client.insightBB.com) has joined #xbox360contestdrawing
[12:25] <LAX> Kender....
[12:26] <LAX> I don't have a lot of time alone... please be here.
[12:28] *** LAX is now known as LAX1742
[12:29] *** LAX1742 is now known as LAX
[12:29] <LAX> Use "one" to decode any of my messages from now on... Looks like I might have to be more carefull. I don't think they have found the contest site yet.
[12:30] <LAX> Thanks... gotta go.
[12:30] *** LAX (LAXSPLAT307e4d48.de6498d.client.insightBB.com) has left #xbox360contestdrawing


From lax1742SPLATyahoo.com, vigenere encoded with "ONE":
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I HAVE SOME VACATION TIME COMING UP THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE TO GET SOME OF THIS HEAT OFF OF ME
I'D REALLY HATE TO LEAVE THE OFFICE WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING AT ME BUT I MAY NOT HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DECIPHER YOUR CODE BUT I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT IT IS SOME SORT OF WARNING
I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CONTACT PEOPLE TOO MUCH OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS BUT I WILL DO MY BEST
PLEASE TELL THEM TO USE ONE FOR ANY MESSAGES THAT THEY SEND TO ME
I WILL CRACK THEM IN MY FREE TIME AND WHEN NOONE ELSE IS AROUND THE OFFICE
LAX


From lax1742SPLATyahoo.com, vigenere encoded with "ONEHTML":
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NEVER MIND MY LAST MESSAGE TO YOU
AS YOU CAN SEE I FIGURED IT OUT HEHE
JUST TOOK ME A SECOND TO DO IT IS ALL
I THANK YOU FOR THE WARNING AND THE INFORMATION
I WILL DO MY BEST TO TRY AND CHANGE EMAIL ACCOUNTS WHEN I GET TIME TO DO SO
I WILL CONTACT YOU OR SOMEONE ELSE AS TO THE SWITCH ONCE I DO IT
THANKS AGAIN
LAX


From jack.trevorSPLATgmail.com, vigenere encoded with "ONEHTML":
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OKAY SO I KNOW THAT I SAID THAT I WOULD TELL YOU AHEAD OF TIME BUT I THOUGHT HECK I HAVE THE INVITE SO WHY NOT USE IT
AND SO I DID
THANKS FOR THAT
BY THE WAY TELL EVERYONE THAT YOU KNOW WHO KNOWS ME TO TRY AND REACH ME HERE
THANKS
LAX


So from now on we can reach LAX at jack.trevorSPLATgmail.com. Encode/decode any encryption with "ONE" or "ONEHTML".

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 		Looks like mr Kain caught on to my forward to LAX:

Quote:
From: Kevin Kain <kain194@lycos.com>
Date: Dec 31, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: Jack Trevor
To: kender

Kender;

I did not think that you were the naive type. But I guess I was wrong.

For future reference, Kender, let me just inform you that we track all e-mails going into and out of our system. We are a security company, after all.

The others who have contacted Mr. Trevor were kind enough to provide Mr. Trevor with the answers to his puzzles. So, it was not hard to decrypt your little attempt at an encryption.

I did not have any reason to think that Mr. Trevor was a threat to this company. Now, I am not so sure.

I don't think that he is dumb enough to try and go somewhere he doesn't belong. Then again, my opinion of you was wrong.

I am sure that there is another way that Mr. Trevor is trying to make contact with you and the others. I will find out what that is. If not from you, then from someone else.

*KAIN*

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 		Yikes, this has suddenly turned sinister... Shocked
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 		I sent Jack a Happy New Year email with an encrypted message asking if the new gmail was secure, here's the reply.

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I'm going to use an outside computer to read my e-mails, so there is no longer a need to encrypt the messages anymore (which saves all of us a lot of time).

My thought process is this: Yahoo! was not the company's e-mail account, so I thought that it was safe to use. Since I was wrong about that, my next assuption is that the company can only see what I show them. In other words, if I don't open up any e-mail within the company walls, then the messages won't be read.

The downside to this is that the turnaround time for to answer messages will be longer. But I will get to them, I promise.

LAX



So I guess we don't have to encrpyt our messages for now.
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 		i got the Kain message in my box today. I thought it was spam but the name seemed familiar. I didn't know all this has happened so far. Anyway I am going to write Kain back and try to get some information out of them.


This is what i wrote

Quote:
Kain;

Jack Trevor did contact me but he never made a mention of any cases. What company are you from? I found Mr. Trevor by emailing him for a contest to win an XBOX. I hope that helps you out. Are the Xbox's stolen? Oh I sure hope not.

-RPGgame


update: got this response back
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RPGgame;

A contest? What sort of contest and where is this contest located?

I work with Jack at a security company, the name of which is unimportant.

Jack has been asking us about a specific case and thinks that there is more to it then meets the eye. We happen to disagree with him on this. He is a fool, as far as I'm concerned.

>From what I can gather, Jack was in love with this girl that someone had reported missing. It turned out that she was not. Some of our people spotted her in the area and also followed her to her current residence. So, we closed the case. Nothing more, nothing less.

People call in false reports to our company all the time. Sometimes they overhear something and call us with it. Other times they are simply over reacting to a situation.

There is no case that we do not take the necessary time to check out. Nothing is too small for us to look into. Not only is it a way to keep our skills sharp, but it's also a way of providing a community service.

While I sympathize with Mr. Trevors' concerns, they are baseless. Why he does not understand this, I do not know.

*Kain*


and i wrote this back awaiting a response

Quote:
Kain;

If you do not mind me asking how did you get my email? Anyway the contest was one of those send an email with your name email and address type things and a random drawing will take place to win an x-box type game. I remember asking Jack if I had to be present to win due to religious reasons and he replied that I should be fine with that.

-RPGgame

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RPGgame wrote:
i got the Kain message in my box today. I thought it was spam but the name seemed familiar. I didn't know all this has happened so far. Anyway I am going to write Kain back and try to get some information out of them.


This is what i wrote

Quote:
Kain;

Jack Trevor did contact me but he never made a mention of any cases. What company are you from? I found Mr. Trevor by emailing him for a contest to win an XBOX. I hope that helps you out. Are the Xbox's stolen? Oh I sure hope not.

-RPGgame


update: got this response back
Quote:
RPGgame;

A contest? What sort of contest and where is this contest located?

I work with Jack at a security company, the name of which is unimportant.

Jack has been asking us about a specific case and thinks that there is more to it then meets the eye. We happen to disagree with him on this. He is a fool, as far as I'm concerned.

>From what I can gather, Jack was in love with this girl that someone had reported missing. It turned out that she was not. Some of our people spotted her in the area and also followed her to her current residence. So, we closed the case. Nothing more, nothing less.

People call in false reports to our company all the time. Sometimes they overhear something and call us with it. Other times they are simply over reacting to a situation.

There is no case that we do not take the necessary time to check out. Nothing is too small for us to look into. Not only is it a way to keep our skills sharp, but it's also a way of providing a community service.

While I sympathize with Mr. Trevors' concerns, they are baseless. Why he does not understand this, I do not know.

*Kain*


and i wrote this back awaiting a response

Quote:
Kain;

If you do not mind me asking how did you get my email? Anyway the contest was one of those send an email with your name email and address type things and a random drawing will take place to win an x-box type game. I remember asking Jack if I had to be present to win due to religious reasons and he replied that I should be fine with that.

-RPGgame


Suggestion? Stop this train of thought with Kain. Let's try and squeeze out both of these guys as long as possible... Kain doesn't yet no the website. Let's leave it that way for as long as we can.

RPG, it is obvious that you haven't been playing this ARG. Please read up on it before replying once more.
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 		I'm trying a differant approch with Kain, just sent this e-mail

Quote:
Mr Kain
I find it distressing that you have been reading my private correspondence with Mr. Trevor, Security firm or not, you have broken a number of UK privacy laws relating to my e-mail. In regards to this as an English citizen I am well with in my rights to take legal action against you, (UK digital privacy laws have a international arena.) I have not agreed to a 'non disclosure agreement' with your selves and have not been provided with a warrant for you to open my private correspondences with 'lax1742@yahoo.com'. So therefore you have obviously breached this law. I have contacted my lawyer and forwarded him the details he will be in contact with you in the next 48hours.
In your defense, if you have a legally binding international warrant to view my personal correspondences to 'lax1742@yahoo.com', concerning issues such as National security. I wish to have a full copy of this warrant with the time and date of submission and Issue number. We will also need you company name and company registration number. As well as a copy of your 'non disclosure agreement' signed by Mr Trevor. Please e-mail me these documents promptly to avoid prosecution.
Dr Williams JRM Phd


I Have a friend who works at a uk law firm, so going to chat to him later and see If he'll send a official e-mail to Kain, e-mail will include the Firms website e.c.t Think I'm going to play it 100% real, till we get the company name....worth a try anyway... I'll post Kains responce as soon as I get it!

(EDIT)

Here's the relpy:
Quote:
Mr. Williams;

I appreciate your concern and will also be forwarding your request to our
lawyers for consideration. In the meantime, I have been given permission to
respond to this e-mail as I see fit. And so I shall.

The computer that Mr. Trevor uses is company property located on our grounds.
Therefore, "any transmissions, electronic or otherwise, coming into or out of
said company become the property of said company, agreed upon or not".

Mr. Trevor has agreed to these terms as of the date of his employment with us
and the signed statement to such will be made available to your lawyer when
requested.

Unfortunately, matters regarding national security can not be discussed, whether
through me or through our lawyers. Your lawyer will need to contact the NSA/CSS
at 1(309)688-6527 to request any information about our company. You may also
contact MI6 at PO BOX 1300, London, SE1 1BD for information as well.

I must inform you, however, that both governments will disavow any knowledge of
our existence. This is for the safety of your citizens and ours.

Once your lawyer has made contact with me I will forward the information to our
lawyers and they will respond within the 30 days our law gives them to respond
to such matters.

Please forward this message to your lawyer as well. I would like him/her to
understand where our company stands on such issues before he/she decides whether
or not the cause is worth the pursuit.

*Kain*

no help at all..seems like a dead end....Anyone think this avenue is worth continuing?

By the way, I am no more a Doctor then Elvis is the Queen of England!

(EDIT)

responce from Jack is quite interesting:

Quote:
I thank you for your help regarding Mr. Kain. You sure had him all in a bind this morning. He was running around the office cursing, was on the phone with our lawyers for hours on end and even called someone in London (I only know because he asked our switchboard operator to connect him to London and she then relayed the information to me). It was rather amusing to see him all worked up like that.
Kevin Kain, since you asked, is the head of our International Safety Division (ISD). He's very powerful within the political community so I would definitely be careful with what you say to him or how you approach your messages.
As for people saying too much to Mr. Kain, I can only say that they think that I'm nuts. I would try to get them to still think that by agreeing with them. Being friends with the enemy does have it's benefits.
LAX


if 'Being friends with the enemy does have it's benefits.' then mabey we should be befriending Kain?

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 		Here's the Route I've been taking.

Quote:
Kain,

Anything you want to know I can tell you...

for a price.


I don't know what to tell... as of now its been very little.

Quote:
verychewy;

The price is that we don't show up at the address that you gave Mr. Trevor.

*Kain*


My reply... however disjointed it looks in your eyes, it looked good when I wrote it:

Quote:
Kev,

I'm no good to you dead, now am I? You emailed me asking for info. Last I checked, dead men don't talk. The price I ask is not monetary (although, monetary indeed would seal the deal). I'm happy with some info that might help me. Tit for tat?

The balls in your court, *Kain*


Quote:

verychewy;

Who said anything about killing you?

If you provide me with the information that I ask for, I will throw something in your direction as well. But only if your information consists of something that we don't already know about and is worth the trade.

*Kain*


My reply (following) is very... guarded. I want to stretch this out... see how much info I could get out of him without telling much in the first place. I also wanted to get the question of 'If this case is solved, then why is Jason Young looking for help elsewhere' out of the way.

Quote:
When one "threatens" to show up to said address, one other thinks the worst. I was mistaken.

Here's some tidbits. Let's see what we can accomplish here.

Jack is suspicious of your company's handling of a case, of a former love. But you know this... why else would you be writing? And you seem to be happy with your company's performance in said case... I hear claims that you found her at a new residence... Case Closed.

You may not know that Jason, :suggestion to read up on him if you havent yet:, is currently attempting to hire another company to furthur investigate her disappearance. So much for case closed...

Something's up. And a part of me wants to know what.
And a part of you wants to know more. Well pardon my latin, but 'Quid Pro Quo' Smile

Let's get to know each other better... you know me well enough. Kev, what's your position in this company? And what's this company's name in the first place.

Not hard questions. They only get harder from here.

-Chew


His reply... and the end of the convo thusfar.

Quote:
verychewy;

We are well aware of Mr. Youngs' actions in trying to acquire interest from others then myself and the others who handled his "tip". However, that does not change the fact that his case was closed because the "tip" that he called in was false. So it does not matter how many people Mr. Young tries to contact, the result will not change.

My personal feeling is that Mr. Young is trying to play an adult version of "Ding Dong Ditch". Did you ever play that as a child? If you have not, then I will enlighten you as to the "purpose" of said adventure. The "point" is to run up to the front door of a house where you know someone is home, ring their doorbell and run.

There is no point to this childish "game" then to have something to snicker at when you arrive back at home with your partners in crime. What Mr. Young is similar to this in that he is grabbing people's attention only to run away and laugh at them later.

While the questions that you ask have answers, they are not important information. There is nothing that can come from me answering them, so I will not.

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Quote:
RPGgame;

Your e-mail was acquired via our system. Once Mr. Trevor started asking questions about the case, we felt it was necessary to find out what contact, if any, he has been trying to make with anyone outside of our company regarding the case.

Once we started sifting through his e-mails, we started noticing responses and replies about the case in question. That is why we want to know more about the extent of his actions.

As I've already mentioned, we are a security company. We handle all sorts of cases, not just the ones that some would consider "small". If someone within our company is willing to go to a certain extent with a case that has been determined invalid, how do you think we would feel about trusting that person with a case that we know to be important?

Leaks are not something that we celebrate in this business. If Mr. Trevor has been leaking more information then we feel that he should have been, he will be terminated and that will be the end of our conversations. If he has not, then there is no reason to feel that he is a threat to our company.

Please don't take this as a sinister course of action. It's simply trying to gather as much intelligence from those Mr. Trevor has contacted as we can in order to determine what course of action we need to take against him concerning his employment here.

*Kain*


So that is the latest. I am going to continue working on kain and see what they say.

UPDATE: what I wrote

Quote:

ok I feel much better now.

The contest was to solve a math problem.

You know one of those that they have from the book *Sideways Arithmetic From Wayside School *type things

it was like FLOWER+ SOMETHING = SOMETHING

I don't know or remember but that equaled some words and when you took those words together it gave the answer.

Anyway once you got that answer you emailed it to some email address.

It was a while back but that was the deal.

It seems like you are angry about some kind of case. Now if there really is no x-box you might as well terminate the guy for fraud. About a case the really was not any talk about that.

Love is a tricky subject. It is sad that this girl was found missing but happy that she was found again. Does he get to see the entire case file. Is he looking for the girls address or something? Perhaps he thinks it is blackmail? I am still trying to understand the deeper meaning behind all of this. Please let me know what you can tell me about the case if you want even using Mr. X and Mrs. Y. I will keep a look out for odd behavior but what is in it for me. I have bigger fish to fry but sadly I grew up with a caring heart.

Keep me posted,
RPGgame


the response I got back was

Quote:

RPGgame;

Thank you for the information. It is about time someone saw that I am not "out to get" Mr. Trevor. I hold no ill will towards the man, I'm simply making sure that we don't have a problem before we do. Understand?

I can not disclose most of the sensitive information about the case in question. However, since you have been so kind, I will disclose what I am allowed to at this time.

As a security company, we handle many cases involving corporate fraud, embezzlement and other corporate crime related issues. We knew of Mr. X before he called us because he works at a company that we have helped in the past. I believe that this is why he contacted us instead of going to the police. Well, that and there is no law about making false claims to a company.

The case that we opened was based solely on the "tip" that we received. Nothing more, nothing less. Anything beyond what the "tip" involved is not our purpose.

The "tip" was to investigate a possible "missing" person. We did that, plain and simple. We found her in the area alive and so the case was then closed. If there is something else beyond what the "tip" involved then that is something that we would not investigate until we receive proof that there is something to investigate.

I hope that this clears up our position on the case itself and our reasons for closing it as we did.

*Kain*


looks good so far... let me know what direction I should go with this. I'm gonna think of an angle myself but I think we are on to something.
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 		RPG, First I like the fact Kain seems to like you. This could be good to exploit.

On that note, I suggest you get off this topic. We want to keep these two entities separate for as long as possible... I spec that as soon as one of us reveals too much, our friend Jack will face a lot more trouble. Trever seems to believe that he could be "terminated" if found.

Latest developments on my front.

Kain:
Quote:
You previously asked me for some sort of "reward" for giving me information. If you can find out where I work and what my position is, I will reward you in some way or another. This is how unimportant that information is.


Quote:
Hey Kainy Boy. Let's start with a quote.

"You previously asked me for some sort of "reward" for giving me information. If you can find out where I work and what my position is, I will reward you in some way or another. This is how unimportant that information is."

Mr. Kain, you wouldn't happen to be the Head of the International Safety Division (ISD), would you?

Because, if you are... I believe I am entitled to some sort of reward.

-Chewy


Response, to which I am angered by.

Quote:
"And" = in addition to. Please read what I write to you before you start jumping for joy.

*Kain*



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 		Ok I took a totally different route in contacting Kain. I posed as someone possibly looking into his service. Here is his reply

Quote:
Crystal;

I would be more then happy to have someone contact you regarding your situation.

Before I do, however, I will need to following information from you about the
person in question:

1) First and Last name
2) Last known address (we will provide you with previous addresses to confirm
their identity)
3) Last known location as well as Date of Disappearance
4) Description of the person in question (height, weight, age, etc.)
5) A recent photo of the individual, if available
6) Names of relatives, as well as their relatives' contact information
7) Last seen with, if available
8 ) Their relation to you
9) Their hobbies, favorite hangouts (please include addresses and phone
numbers), interests
10) Names of their friends, along with photos (if available) and contact
information.

Our fees are "cover" based. What this means is that how much we spend on the
case is how much is owed, plus 10% if the individual is found alive. In a worst
case senerio no fees will be due. The pain of loss will be to great for us to
even consider such an action.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

*Kain*


I replyed asking if I could get the Official name of his business and if there is another method of communication like phone or IM.

I'm not sure what step to try next with him, if this even would unveil anything..

EDIT: Ok Kain just responded to immediatly and offered to meet me in a chat room. He said if anyone else shows up he'll leave so I am hesitant giving out the info. But, what should I ask him? He says he'll be there in a half an hour. Maybe other ppl got this?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:20 am
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