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Puppy_Zwolle
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A MAJOR: the note, the degree, the soldier?
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:35 pm
Glecius
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With the musical reference in the lastest sparky blog I began thinking musically. The term "requiem" came to mind. It's a musical tribute to the dead. It also followed the lines of having "qu" in it (which might not mean anything) PLUS it followed the theme of NoNoNo-YesYesYes being opposites. Requiems are written in Minor keys mostly, being the "opposite" of A Major (there is no actual opposite of keys, but the only understandable reference would be major to minor, of the same key).
Just some thoughts
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 11:49 am
labfly
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Glecius wrote:
there is also what seems to be a clue in the source
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D35H23O043
i have no idea if this is anything close to a solve but after
fooling around with this.. the only thing that even somehow
made sense to me was just a substitution
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giving us the letters ddfhcdoaed
and out of that mess i get:
add echo
but that leaves us with two d's and an f
perhaps this will spark something for someone else and we'll get a solve
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:14 pm
LatentMoths
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Another interpretation of the no12no page...could be read as "no one to know".
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:24 pm
labfly
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that is a good point, ilikepucks.
also revisiting the "4" like symbol
catherwood wrote:
That thing you refer to as a "4" in that picture looks more like the symbol for Jupiter to me. *shrug*
if we look in "the squirrely 4" direction we find:
Quote:
In the family of gods in Greek mythology"the squirrely 4" represents Zeus, the highest of the gods, and his counterpart in Roman mythology, Jupiter.
The key word for "that squirrely 4" as a symbol for psychological functions is expansion. Jupiter also represents the establishment, the society, institutionalized religion, authorities, and enlightened government. It also stands for empathy and philanthropy. When used in psychological astrology Jupiter indicates the ability to understand and adapt to the established social structure and the desire to expand in knowledge, for instance, via studies and travelling.
In Cabbalistic mysticism "the squirrely 4" is the sign of the Angel Sachiel.
if you'd like more info on "the squirrely 4":
http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/17/171.html
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:50 pm
Vandino
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"that squirrely 4" (haha, that cracks me up!) is also the alchemic symbol for tin.
well, let's see, if we look at the musical aspect, we could look at the key of A Major:
A B C# D E F# G# A
but there's no H or O in music, so i'm not sure how the source clue fits in, unless we use labfly's substitution, which would get us something like:
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A B C# D D D E F# F(#) G# A ?
Hmm, i just noticed that there's a faint 13 right between the thumb and index finger. so now we have a 13, a 12/21/jupiter/tin, a 9/11 (number on the palm), 3 fingers with black paint on them ...
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:39 pm
Glecius
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I dont think the letters in the source actually have anything to do with this persay. I took the letters and used their numeric value in the alphabet and came up with this - 43582315043 Then I started thinking about the No-Yes "thing" and reversed them, giving us this 34051328534
Noticing the same numbers on the ends got me to checking and the ASCII chart shows " as the value for 34, so I tried working the numbers to find the best fit. While nothing came out "clear" something did grab my attention, so maybe someone else can make further sense of it.
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34 05 13 2 85 34
" ENQ 13 STX U "
Now the 2 and 05 are values not given for ASCII, so I used the Dec being that the number values are the same from 32 and up (for the most part)
If you go back to page 2 of this thread and look at the subject line of the e-mail I received when this page was posted you will see why this result intruiged me. I just havent been able to sound out a final answer for it yet. I dunno if its right or not, but it seems to be a lot of coincidence if it isnt.
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:41 am
labfly
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just playing around with what glecius put up:
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" ENQ 13 STX U "
EN QU13ST X U
hmmm... any thoughts?
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:35 am
Glecius
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labfly wrote:
just playing around with what glecius put up:
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" ENQ 13 STX U "
EN QU13ST X U
hmmm... any thoughts?
One thing sticks out to me, but not sure how it might end up fitting.
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X = 10 or ten in Roman Numerals, so if we say it within the context of the rest
EN QU13STION U or EN QU13STION YOU
I dunno really
Then after I hit the submit button I thought maybe the U was the add into the QU13STION, so maybe its ENQU13STION. That would also fit into the "theme" of the e-mail. Its all about questions.
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:44 am
NateBlizz
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At last I have returned and with something to add concerning Glecius' latest post:
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That last quoted bit feels like "inquisition you" to me
Its so good to be back into the game.
p.s. - Received 2 emails concerning my classified in Metropolis about RM.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:04 pm
AliAs
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Going along the same lines of "the squirrely 4 as Jupiter" and "a major key," I was wondering if we could look at Mozart's Symphony No. 41 In C Major K. 551 'Jupiter'.
More info about the symphony:
http://w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/mozart_sym41.html
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:51 am
Glecius
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DOH, I cant believe how many times I overlooked this, but the source clue means D(Decimal)35, H(Hex)23, O(Octal)043. They all correspond to the same thing, #. Now we have to figure out how the number sign plays into it.
*EDIT*
Again, if we think musically, the # represents a "sharp note". The opposite of it would be a "flat note" or
b
*EDIT2*
I decided to stare at the info from Jupiter and try and figure something out. The biggest key I could find was the reference to the sizes listed with on the page (SMALL, MEDIUM, LARGE). Jupiter is the largest planet, so given the Yes-No "thing" it led me to think of the smallest planet. Pluto is the smallest planet and the Roman God equivalent to Hades in Greek Mythology, Ruler of the Underworld. It seemed to fit our theme, so I thought I'd share my ramblings. Still not sure how it all fits together, but we have more to work with now I think. The IX in the palm being the most notable clue on the page could also refer to Pluto, as the 9th Planet.
I also researched more into the info about Mozart above and realized another composer had an entire composition- "The Planets", including a symphony for each planet. Holst is the composer, but there is nothing for Pluto. That would be b/c Pluto wasnt identified and regarded a planet until after. He actually only has 7 planets listed at that time, so I think we were supposed to be led that way in order to make us think. Nice work AliAs, now we have to figure the rest out
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:31 am
labfly
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Glecius wrote:
DOH, I cant believe how many times I overlooked this, but the source clue means D(Decimal)35, H(Hex)23, O(Octal)043. They all correspond to the same thing, #. Now we have to figure out how the number sign plays into it.
nice, glecius-- thank you for bringing us all to our senses!
i can't believe how many times we all overlooked this!
seems like this is pointing us toward the music:
three sharps in a row? if it is a song it is discordant
EDIT:*
hey i don't know if anyone has tossed this out yet.. what about
beethoven's 9th (IX) symphony?
http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~simonj/lvb/ninth.html
i'm going to check this out
SORRY TO EDIT AGAIN BUT:
what if "the sqirrely 4" is a four and it is pointing us to the 4th movement
in the 9th symphony which is the movement with the words of Schiller's poem "An die Freude"?
(sparkrents hint about music was nearly hitting us over the head.. eh?)
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:04 am
labfly
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and interesting to note (teehee).. i just found this from wikipedia
Quote:
The (9th) symphony seems to have taken particularly deep root in Japan, where it is widely performed during December as part of the annual celebration of the new year.
a holiday message from our pm? maybe?
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:34 am
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Glecius
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I was chatting with my pops (musician for almost 50 yrs, teacher for close to 20) and he was telling me about the ### signifies the key of A Major. I decided to do a little checking and came across this
That actually places numeric values on key signatures. Alas, we have even more to think about and figure out lol
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:35 am
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