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MJ-12 is a BOGUS organization
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FreeThinker
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MJ-12 is a BOGUS organization

They say the mj-12 are a secret organization but i really doubt they are, they want to withhold all names of the employees and they say on there site that only a few know the real names of people.. well if thats the case then how come they posted a name on there site "NICOLE". its in the approved websites section. they say that they filled out a form cause Nicole told us to.. don't you think if they wanted it to be super-top-secret they wont make The biggest and most ridiculous Slip up ever.. common.. if you think these guys are top secret, you don't even know half of it.. The Illuminti are the followers and keepers of the light. The Free Masons are the guys you should be worried about. 90% of the Us. presidents were free masons and were insecret societies. the late president G.W.bush Is a free mason. These Masons Have All the secrets forget this bogus MJ-12 Cause they are not majestic at all.. They are creating there own truth like there motto. They are making believe they exsist simply by stating the fact.. i could start a super-top-secret organization with my friends and call it whatever i wanted then just make people think there is a such group out there by slowly releasing facts about them.. these guys aren't even serious..

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Erm, so the point of your post is...um..."don't bother visiting the website of this organization"?

Does this have something to do with ARGs?
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We were just discussing this post in chat. We're not sure if this is supposed to be a trailhead leading us somewhere or if you're really reporting some sort of MJ-12 news. Since it looks to be more of the latter, I'm moving this to Various & Sundry. This section is for ARG news and rumors.
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Majestic 12, anybody?

Time for tinfoil hats Smile

or a bottle marked "drink me"
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Re: MJ-12 is a BOGUS organization

FreeThinker wrote:
the late president G.W.bush


Since when is G.W. dead? Shocked

*puts on tin-foil hat, drinks ice-blue cool aid*
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Re: MJ-12 is a BOGUS organization

Marrec wrote:
FreeThinker wrote:
the late president G.W.bush


Since when is G.W. dead?


what is really funny is that i almost posted the same thing, but since i had nothing else to say i didn't {was trying to avoid the "shame on you for thread jacking" lectures... LOL}
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Re: MJ-12 is a BOGUS organization

Marrec wrote:
FreeThinker wrote:
the late president G.W.bush

Since when is G.W. dead? Shocked
Oh, that? Yeah, he died years ago. It was just a big cover up by the Free Masons. He's currently a puppet, being controlled by 3 dwarves and a complex system of electrical plumbing.
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The Masons

The Masons are not bad people, they are just a society who keep themselves to themselves. My father is a Mason, and he is just an ordinary guy. The Masons are a charitable organisation who give money to charity and help those in need, so stop claiming that they are evil please. Confused
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Gaz, i'm going to head this one off now - a lot of people here use the free masons {being a real life in-this-day-and-age secret society} in ARGs. There are also QUITE a few WOMEN here {like me} who feel they are sexist, there are also non-christains who find them threatening. There are also people who feel that if they are in the 100% okie dokie, why do they still need to be a "secret-society". I know quite a few freemasons, and personal opinions don't make for a hill of beans when dealing with args {or arg wanna-bes}. So just don't bother. If you are offended by the content having to do with free-masons, don't get involved in those situations.

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{{for those who need clerification, the word "situations" here directly references the previous setences of "ARGs or Arg Wanna-bes" sorry for the miscommunication - I thought it was self-explanitory what I was talking about}
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just my 2 cents worth.My step dad was a GM and he said that the masons arnt a secret society but a society that has secrets.

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Archer, My friend's wife got yelled at by about 5 -8 masons all at once for holding a mason book of her husbands for him {i have no idea what it was, and i am sorry but if the book was so secret, and not to be held by her, why the heck did SHE get yelled at and not the man who asked her to?}. I won't give my full personal opinion of the masons - but a secret society or a society with secrets - either way i can't go to a meeting now can i?
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Well, the women can't be Masons themselves, but there is a Masonic order known as the Order of the Eastern Star which is for women. Also, the Mason's "secrets" aren't really all that secret. Pretty easy to get them if you do a little digging, but they seem to think it's all hush hush
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Masons

I do not like it when you say that a group of people are bad, despite knowing nothing about them. If you said similar things about Muslims or Jews it would be on the same level as the things you have said about Masons.
Pixie, I do not feel that the Free Masons are sexist. May I remind you that this is an ancient and religous organisation, why should they change their customs just because some people are offended...if people are offended, they have the right not to join or research that society, perhaps one of the reasons they are secretive is because they do not want to offend. They do not cause anyone any harm. As for the incident with the book...I think those Masons were acting strange...what book is it though, I mean my father let me hold his masonic book...he left it around the house all the time, he even wrote phone numbers inside the covers when there was no spare paper around, so this leads me to the conclusion that it either must have been a very sacred or old book. Another point is why are you compaining that women are not allowed to become masons, when there is an order for women, and that you would probably not want to join anyway, and taking into account that this is an ancient society, called THE MASONS, masons are/were stone-cutters...now the masons have been around for thousands of years, the Knights Templar (an order in the masons) are even rumored to be protectors of the holy grail, all those years ago there were no women working as masons, maybe this contributes to the fact that there are no fully-fledged female masons, maybe they want to maintain tradition. I do not know of any non-christians who are threatened by the masons, I myself am non-christian, the masons are not enforcing christianity onto anyone, so how is it offensive? I see muslims praying to Allah, but I am not offended - how are the masons any different, I mean they don't do anything in public, so how can you be offended. Plus the Masons do not promote Christianity, they do not promote any specific religion.
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Oh, I just realised something...Pixie, you contradicted yourself...by first claiming that you are offended by the Masons, and then telling me not to be offended when people say bad things about the Free Masons. (I am not saying that you are a hipocrit, but please just be careful next time)
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There are also women on this forum that are in Masonic organizations or were in Masonic sponsored organizations as kids. I was a Rainbow Girl, heck, I was a state officer (Grand Jr. Executive). The Masons are far from the only secret organization (or organization with secrets) in today's world and many of them are open only to women. For example, I was in a sorority in college and I'm also a member of P.E.O., an organization for women that promotes education for other women (they own a two year college for women, provide enormous support locally through various grants and loans, and have an amazing project to help women from abroad). Am I sexist because I've belong to such organizations? I certainly don't think so and I won't pass judgement on men who chose to belong to an organization only open to men. As for why we keep secrets... it has far more to do with bonding and sisterhood than it does any evil plots or manipulations. I'm sorry, I just find the notion of men's clubs and women's clubs being sexist tiring. Worse, I find the hypocracy of some women who feel that it's great for women to be able to have their own safe haven (or whatever) but are opposed to men for having the same. That, to me, is the very sexism. (I'm not implying that you are a hypocrit Pixiestix, I have no knowledge of your stance on secret women's organization, just pointing out a personal hot button)

In any event, I'm further derailing this topic. Which is about the MJ-12 and the same ol' basic conspiracy theories surrounding the Masons, I think? I'm not one to lock threads, but if we can't keep the discussion somewhat rational or, at least, not too personal, I will go ahead and do just that.

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Masons

I didnt mean to sound agressive in my last post...I just wanted to get all of the justifications out of my brain before I forgot them. Imbri, you mentioned "sisterhood" - well masons are working on the same principle...
as the lines of the masonic anthem go:

(My Dad sings this for Masonic ceremonies)

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Master's Song

1.-Solo:
This world is so hard and so stony;
That if a man is true get through,
He'd need have the courage of Nelson,
And plenty of Job's patience too.
But a man who is kind to another
And cheerfully helps him along,
God Bless such a man and a brother,
And here's to his health in a song.

And here's to his health, here's to his health
And here's to his health in a song.


I think those lyrics are rather touching.
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