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Rogi Ocnorb
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Location: Where the cheese is free.

 		There's a base pattern of every other char within every other char.
Working further (Still no true pattern, I see)...
"You'll want to take the d two times ten
Look to the left" ...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:58 pm
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Caspian
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Joined: 21 Oct 2005
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Location: Milwaukee
delusional696 wrote:
So who's going to in milwaukee tomorrow(01/07)? And at what time?
I could go right now (1:00pm central 01/06) but if theres a group going I don't want to spoil anyone elses fun.


Well I was planning on going tomorrow late morning/early afternoon but I could possibly go this evening, I just thought it'd be better to go to tomorrow in the daylight since I won't get out of work and home to change until around 5.

Thanks for waiting! If you want to meet up and go tomorrow PM me!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:39 pm
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mapmaker
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Joined: 26 Sep 2005
Posts: 608
Location: Providence, RI, USA

 		I am seriously starting to believe that my going AFK for some time is healthy for this ARG's progression. Very Happy Great work, everyone! If I get a chance, I'll try to help.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:56 pm
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Ehsan
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 		Here's the solve for Frame #4:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
You'll want to take the two times ten
Look to the left every now and then
If you're careful you may see
A very special place to me.

Continue on as you ought
to take a turn at five two naught.
Turn again on the number found
to be ounces in a Troy pound.

Walk along the high dune of sand
Beside the water, On the land
Before you choose to hike or scale
know the faster route is the trail.

Which to choose the left or straight
submit to the challenge and take the bait?
Step up and down and test your might
your grand reward will be the sight.

Rest your feet when you may
Then hike along the wooden way
Go up the stairs, not once but twice
Sit down to rest, take my advice!

Lift your eyes and do not frown
Do not forget look up and down
If you chose to turn around
And drop yourself upon the ground

The sifting sand has left the place
Beneath the bench there is a space
Next to the roots of an aging friend
Is the spot you'll have to bend.




Method:

Code:
I initially overcomplicated this, noting that the difference between each character we take is following the sequence of the number of composites between primes (1 1 3 1 3 1 3 5 etc) but then I realized this just means that the chars we do take are in prime number locations  :oops:

So each character is a prime position in an array of the total characters we have in that frame (char[2],char[3],char[5],char[7]...etc.)


PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:24 pm
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Ofiuco
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 		I tapped my resources and got a programmer friend of mine to whip up a script that would take all of the ASCII values and delete any that were not letters. The result is probably much easier to navigate for people who are not mathematics-oriented (like myself for example).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:38 pm
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Ehsan
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 		This is starting to fall into place. Basically the pattern is the locations of the pixels we use from the frame. I'd just like to revisit this:

Frame 1: Odd Numbers - 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 ...
Frame 4: Prime Numbers - 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 ...
Frame 6: Connell Sequence (1 odd, 2 even, 3 odd...) - 1 2 4 5 7 9 10 12 ...
Frame 7: Even Numbers - 0 2 4 6 8 ...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:52 pm
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AmberJoy
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 		I'm pretty sure the puzzle about the sand dune is talking about Indiana State Sand Dunes near Gary, Indiana. Wink

http://tinyurl.com/cjv7e

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:04 pm
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Rogi Ocnorb
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee


Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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Location: Where the cheese is free.

 		God, Ehsan, How do you think of these things?

So is number four for Augusta, GA?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:10 pm
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teh_lisa
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Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 950
Location: my chair

 		indiana
ok who's up for indiana guys? i am

these are the last part of the driving directions to the indiana dunes
Quote:
11: Turn LEFT onto US-20.
12: Turn RIGHT onto IN-520.
13: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto US-12 / W DUNES HWY.


look familiar. cheers to amberjoy for this one!

lisa anne

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:26 pm
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crouchosarus
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Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 76
Location: Waselei Station

 		Sorry if I'm being really stupid but I am not getting how you are decoding the frames....
I was being really stupid

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:19 pm
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Ehsan
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 		Frame 5 (a.k.a the evil frame)...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit,


Yeah.. that's it... Evil or Very Mad

Method.. (a.k.a the solution from hell)

I notice the first few letters were "l o r e" so looking up the sequence for those positions (1 4 11 16) led me to many hits, one of which was [url=A005224]Aronson's Sequence[/url] where you write the sentence "T is the first.. letter in this sequence" and then count the next t and keep writing.. "T is the first, fourth, eleventh," and so on and so forth, giving you the sequence 1 4 11 16 24...

I checked out the first few values and got some lorem ipusm... great.. the entire sequence on the database gave 8 words only, so I assumed there's a lot more, given the length of the other framse...

So off to a merry hunt looking for the rest of the sequence.. nothing on the Internet, except a perl script which might generate the rest.. but it was broken! The entire channel was helping and looking for this stuff.. finally I found an offending "AND" in the perl code, got it out, and the thing worked.. (after two hours..)

Lo and behold, there is nothing after the sequence in the database... just those 8 letters. The PMs used the ready made sequence and the frame seems totally useless.


I am still hoping that I either made a mistake, and there is more stuff in there if I hadn't gotten a step wrong, or that this method is important to solve another frame such as 2 or 3... If not, then I really, really don't like the PMs at the moment....


To recap:

Frame 1: Odd Numbers - 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 ...
Frame 4: Prime Numbers - 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 ...
Frame 5: Aronson's Sequence - 1 4 11 16 24 ...
Frame 6: Connell Sequence (1 odd, 2 even, 3 odd...) - 1 2 4 5 7 9 10 12 ...
Frame 7: Even Numbers - 0 2 4 6 8 ...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:23 pm
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camdman
Boot

Joined: 29 Sep 2005
Posts: 27
Location: Australia

 		Wow, good work guys!

If anyone else lives in the Melbourne area (not aware of anyone, but hey..) and wants to go searching with me, i'll probably be heading in tomorrow. Just send me a PM letting me know if you want to come, or just reply to this post. I guess i'll meet anyone who wants in at Flinders St Station.

Does anyone else have the remainder of the melbourne clue?

Quote:
Outback behind the Federation Square,
Where triptych Pioneer's have rest and care
The River of Mist has lost its way
No bank beneath the bridge holds sway
Close by the Elms of Flemming's Speaker's Mound
Listen for the Cauldron's sound
Stand beneath the cups offered to the sky
For this secret you must vie.


Is that it, or is that just a direction to finding the start of the trail? The other's seemed to be a lot longer. I'l try working on it to see if there is more to it, but i'm pretty terrible at this stuff, so if someone can do me a huge favour and work out the rest of the clue, i will be eternally gratefull...

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grumpyboy
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camdman wrote:
Is that it, or is that just a direction to finding the start of the trail? The other's seemed to be a lot longer. I'l try working on it to see if there is more to it, but i'm pretty terrible at this stuff, so if someone can do me a huge favour and work out the rest of the clue, i will be eternally gratefull...


After getting those 8 lines, all I got was gibberish. But I agree that it does seem a bit short and not specific enough... Confused

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:25 pm
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camdman
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 		Yeah, i also get gibberish after those eight lines (tallerbird mentioned this same problem a few pages ago). Maybe the ascii has more errors in it?? Heck, i dunno.

tallerbird also said he thinks these upturned cups were the federation bells. I think this sounds dead on, good work tallerbird. I was just unsure whether this was the place to search, or this was the start of the trail, because so far the other frames seem to be trails leading to the destination, rather than just a destination....

Oh well, I guess i'll find out tomorrow....

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Jalathas
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 		Re: indiana
teh_lisa wrote:
ok who's up for indiana guys? i am

these are the last part of the driving directions to the indiana dunes
Quote:
11: Turn LEFT onto US-20.
12: Turn RIGHT onto IN-520.
13: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto US-12 / W DUNES HWY.


look familiar. cheers to amberjoy for this one!

lisa anne

Dang! I was hoping for Sleeping Bear Dunes in Michigan.

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