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grumpyboy
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 		sweet! i was right about emailing whitehouseSPLATgreywethers.net I got the same email from them... Smile

Does this mean the "mail house" page is solved? Confused If so, I guess we have to wait for further instructions.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2003 9:48 pm
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Caterpillar
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 		Well at first I thought that it may mean that we have yet to finish something before tomorrow at sunset (i.e. Sarah's note). But I guess "another challenge still awaits" infers something we haven't yet seen.

I can't see anything to do with it but wait ........

~cem

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kimer
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 		Spec: password
Quote:
inside you'll find the portal


This is driving me crazy.... but instead of "solving" the puzzle started thinking... hmmmmm what 8 letter word would mean portal?

Have tried:
doorstep... entrance... pathways... aperture... entryway... gateways... hatchway... approach... archways... doorways... passages... aboideau... openings... anteroom

All to no avail but thought I'd share the approach Rolling Eyes
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Caterpillar
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 		I took that to mean "inside greywethers you'll find the portal"....in order to get to the portal we need the LogIn.

But I hear ya...lol...I tried lots along the same lines. Smile

On another note...I also tried looking at the "equations" as Letter/Word/Line. My thought was that since they are not "equations" per se, that the "line" that separates the "equation" from the "answer" could be taken literally as "LINE" 10 or "LINE" 5........

I haven't gotten anywhere with it though. The biggest thing that is bugging me is the :

Quote:
Look for the sign, it's there by design and shows you which ones are the same


The same as what? Each other? The equation numbers? The page numbers? Figuring that out (along with why the need to put 1+2+6=10, when all others do indeed "add up") would I'm sure yield the LogIn or the method to figure it out.

I know another way has been "provided" but it still bugs the heck out of me that we can't figure this out in the initial way....esp. with all the hints.

Ah well...back to staring.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 3:45 pm
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Caterpillar
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Quote:
so pause not long to celebrate
for you have barely yet begun
another challenge still awaits
before tomorrow's setting sun


Sunset......................8:25 p.m.
End civil twilight.........8:58 p.m.

I guess we have about 2 1/2 +/- hours or.....?

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konamouse
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 		Email from whitehouse@greywethers.net
Subject: Re: seeking response

my numbers have stumped you once before
so I'm hesitant to try once more
but this is as easy as it can be
here's four numbers, what do you see?

23 16 6 5



Quoting konamouse <konamouse@yahoo.com>:

> we're trying to find you
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konamouse
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 		either that was just too easy, or i'm smart (i'd go with the former).

here is the next page:

http://www.greywethers.net/wpfe.html

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
"a wish to share and I can send my note for hope on again a few to bare a secret to"

that's a strange poem, there's no denying
another task that you'll find trying
the letters and spaces, count them all
and nine by nine defines the walls

another shape shall lie inside
where your next piece of truth resides

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dmax
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 		a wish to share and I can send my note for hope on again a few to bare a secret to

so we rearrange these words for it to make sense, then apply that numerical hintsolve. BBIAB. Don't work on it without me...
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danman_d
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 		This thread is getting way long. Since the WPFE puzzle seems to be a different puzzle, I started a thread to work on it here.

-Dan
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AbuAmaal
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 		wpfd again
Back to wpfd:

It seems strange to be blocked here.
At the risk of beating a dead horse, let me review it in full-

Psammead has confirmed so far:
1. The username is "friend"
2. The password is based on "standing stones" by removing
duplicates.

This leaves adigones or possibly some variant like sandigoes
depending on which tripled letters are left - P. never confirmed
a particular variant.

3. This 8-letter sequence has to be transformed using the
information on the number pages, mainly their names.
In one message he suggested we only needed the page names,
but in a later message he said we needed to look at the
plus signs in the body of the page as well.

4. The page names stand for pairs of letters, two per page,
but each page will give one letter as a result (hence: triplets).

Now since I'm not aware of a standard triplet code outside of DNA
(which doesn't seem very helpful) the most obvious thing is
to use the standard coding where 1+6 stands for "A & F".
In particular, the letters in ADIGONES should refer to the
pages on which they appear, and be converted to something
else by those pages.

The easiest try where A <-> F and so on seems to bomb quickly.

----
This is where we were, and it still seems right.

If so, we need one relatively simple step to finish it. The original page insisted on the simplicity of this last step.
====

Here's one approach, that doesn't seem to work, and seems maybe a little more complicated anyway than what we should be looking for:

Take the numbers with the "+" signs on each page, and add them
up, getting:
15 - 7 - 11 - 14 - 6 - 3 - 1 - 2 - 12 - 5 - 4 - 10 -23
(these are listed in the order the pages appear on the source
code for the randomizer at greywethers.net, namely:
1+6, 10+22, 14+25, 16+19, 8+18, 2+13, 3+4, 7+26, 15+20, 5+21, 9+11, 12+17, 23+24).

It's interesting that this gives 13 distinct letter codes if you want to look at it that way (assuming I've got the data copied down properly):
AF:O JV:G NY:K PS:N HR:F BM:C CD:A GZ:B OT:L EU:E IK:D LQ:J WX:X

This turns ADINGOES into OADKBLEN, which is not very
encouraging unless you want to go back to anagrams, which
we've been warned off of (Blakedon, Bond Lake, and
others). I tested a few. I don't see anything plausible down this line now, but it seemed roughly like what we're supposed to be looking for.
--

I'm sure people have tried various ways of finishing up the "triplet" phase, but I never saw any real discussion of the last phase. And it certainly doesn't seem like much should be missing at this point.
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Any more thoughts?

- AA

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Myssfitz
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 		Re: wpfd again
AbuAmaal wrote:
4. The page names stand for pairs of letters, two per page,
but each page will give one letter as a result (hence: triplets).

Now since I'm not aware of a standard triplet code outside of DNA
(which doesn't seem very helpful) the most obvious thing is
to use the standard coding where 1+6 stands for "A & F".
In particular, the letters in ADIGONES should refer to the
pages on which they appear, and be converted to something
else by those pages.


Abu, This may help you. This was sent to me from psammead. I did not send anything to warrant this reply.

Subject: triplet

the name of each page has two numbers
and on each many formulas fall
but the thing that you need
is an alphabet indeed
as twenty six there is total in all

so if 1 plus 6 equals letters
one on each side of the sign
how could you know
how the other numbers go
there must be some way to divine

there's one thing that separates the numbers
on the page as the same in the name
so look for that sign
it's there by design
and it shows you which ones are the same




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Misgizmo
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 		greywethers.net login
One thing that I saw that jumps out at me is true for 12 of the 13 pages (all but the 1+6.html page). Here goes anyway.

If you add the numbers the logical way, they don't add up, we have already beat that point into the ground. But, if you add the numbers another way, they absolutely add up (except for the first page, wich bugs the crap out of me).

starting with 2+13.html..
the way they are laid out on the html page, add accross, then down.
(2+1 = 3)
(2+1 = 3)
(4+2 = 6)

3+4.html
(5+4 = 9)
(0+1 = 1)
(5+5 = 10)

this gives us 1 number/letter per page

I tried to also explain it in the attachment....Any Thoughts?

I found this too weird to pass up but now I have to make dinner and pay attention to my family so I am not allowed to work on it any more tonight...
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grumpyboy
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 		Re: greywethers.net login
Misgizmo wrote:
If you add the numbers the logical way, they don't add up, we have already beat that point into the ground. But, if you add the numbers another way, they absolutely add up (except for the first page, wich bugs the crap out of me).


I thought all the pages add up properly EXCEPT the 1+6.html page. In which case, if a+b=c and d+e=f then a+d+b+e will always equal c+f. It's supposed to... Confused

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 		Re: wpfd again
AbuAmaal wrote:
2. The password is based on "standing stones" by removing duplicates.

This leaves adigones or possibly some variant like sandigoes
depending on which tripled letters are left - P. never confirmed
a particular variant.


psammead also said:
from the name you choose, remove the pairs
of letters there identical.
if three are there, the third remains
its inclusion will be critical

therefore, always remove the 1st and 2nd occurance of a letter and keep the 3rd appearance in place.

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 		I don't think we're supposed to be adding anything......

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