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[Caterpillar]

[Myssfitz]

His own subject line. I hadn't sent anything...that time

[Myssfitz]

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[zounds]

ahh I see where you mean, kinda hard to see, the E in 'identical' is a deep green colour, I couldn't open your attachment for some reason so I thought you'd imagined it until I looked at the source lol

[Myssfitz]

I know I imagine a lot of things in this game....
But for once I wasn't crazy

[Myssfitz]

FOUND A NEW SITE!!!

[Wolf]

It's a Latin version of Aesop's "Fox and Crow." Lemme go look for an english retelling.

[Wolf]

[Myssfitz]

OK, now what?

(thanks for the translation )

[Guest]

Vulpis et Corvus
The Fox and the Crow

Qui se laudari gaudet verbis subdolis
He who takes delight in treacherous flattery

fere dat poenas turpi paenitentia.
usually pays the penalty by repentance and disgrace.

Cum de fenestra corvus raptum caseum
When a crow, perched on a high tree, was about

comesse vellet celsa residens arbore,
to eat a piece of cheese which he had carried off from

vulpes invidit, deinde sic coepit loqui:
a window, a fox who coveted the prize spoke up as

"O qui tuarum, corve, pennarum est nitor!
follows: "Oh, Mr. Crow, what a lustre your plumes

quantum decoris corpore et vultu geris!
have, how graceful your face and your figure! If

si vocem haberes, nulla prior ales foret."
only you had a voice no bird would rate higher."

at ille stultus, dum vult vocem ostendere
Anxious to show he did have a voice, the foolish

lato ore emisit caseum; quem celeriter
crow opened his mouth to sing and let fall the cheese,

dolosa vulpes avidis rapuit dentibus.
which the crafty fox immediately snapped up with

tum demum ingemuit corvi deceptus stupor.
eager jaws. Too late the crow, betrayed by his own folly, moaned his loss.

~cem

[Caterpillar]

Whoops...sorry Wolf, had my reply window open and didn't see your post. And wasn't logged in, so can't delete it.

[Myssfitz]

Cem,

Actually yours is word for word from greywethers.net. It's the same story, but it's arranged a little differently. Which might have some meaning.

[Geist]

Here is the tranlation Misha posted at CD

[Magesteff]

[comment] Fox and Crow

[Myssfitz]

I found the same fable as greywethers.net with the same words, exactly the same. So it seems that those two lines are supposed to be there.
Except for the lines I've underlined. At greywethers the words become "fere dan"
Vulpis et Corvus

Quae se laudari gaudent verbis subdolis,
serae dant poenas turpi paenitentia.
Cum de fenestra corvus raptum caseum
comesse vellet, celsa residens arbore,
vulpes invidit, deinde sic coepit loqui:
'O qui tuarum, corve, pinnarum est nitor!
Quantum decoris corpore et vultu geris!
Si vocem haberes, nulla prior ales foret'.
At ille, dum etiam vocem vult ostendere,
lato ore emisit caseum; quem celeriter
dolosa vulpes avidis rapuit dentibus.
Tum demum ingemuit corvi deceptus stupor.


La Grenouille qui veut se faire aussi grosse que le Boeuf Rechercher


Here is the same one in English:

The Crow and the Fox

Master Crow perched on a tree,
Was holding a cheese in his beak.
Master Fox attracted by the smell
Said something like this:
"Well, Hello Mister Crow!
How beautiful you are! how nice you seem to me!
Really, if your voice
Is like your plumage,
You are the phoenix of all the inhabitants of these woods."
At these words, the Crow is overjoyed.
And in order to show off his beautiful voice,
He opens his beak wide, lets his prey fall
The Fox grabs it, and says: "My good man,
Learn that every flatterer
Lives at the expense of the one who listens to him.
This lesson, whitout doubt, is well worth a cheese."
The Crow, ashamed and embarrassed,
Swore, but a little late, that he would not be taken again.

So I guess that in translating, different "words" can be used for meaning.