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danman_d
Decorated
Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 233 Location: New York, NY
I agree wholeheartedly.
1) If there is an OOG, PM mole reading our posts, why would we want to hide them? They are in control of the game.
2) If there is an ingame mole, a 'character' snooping in on these posts, it poses a question: Why would a character be reading posts that referred to their world as a game???
Post all pertinent game info. If a 'mole' picks it up and uses it on a site, get over it, it is part of the game, be happy you had input.
That's my .02.
-Dan
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 4:22 pm
sjct
Boot
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 57 Location: Not in GA Anymore
It is obvious to me that someone used Phyllis' rant to deflect suspicion from Dale and Sam. Sunny should not be feeling personally violated, altho I kinda understand why she does. I do hope she will re-re-edit her posts and put up whatever she has gotten from Phyllis. Uncoded, of course. I am not suggesting that any great info is available from Phyllis who is, afterall, a minor character. But for the sake of sharing, Sunny needs to realize that protecting the privacy of an in-game character is being a bit too immersed. Like someone else sorta said, Sunny should feel honored that she has been singled out in the game instead of getting all paranoid about it.
About the issue of moles: I can only say that if you don't think the PM's are watching -- what kind of game do you think you're playing?! Of course, there are moles. If you want to play that game then you need to guess who they are. The way PM Dave has set up BTS involvement that could be... like, ah, everyone!
Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 7:25 pm
Caterpillar
Unfictologist
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 1887 Location: cem's otherbody
Sunny du Pree wrote:
I only deleted the posts after some one request that I do so. I have recieved some flak from respecting this.
If you are referring to the PM I answered, I explained in my reply to you that maybe you should either post them in their readable form or if you felt you didn't want to share the emails not to post them.
It wasn't a request, only a suggestion that if you didn't want to share the information...why post it? At that point I thought you were only doing it because you were ticked off, not that you were trying to nab someone.
I was hoping when I mentioned that if the emails contained info the PMs wanted us to see that we would end up seeing it anyway, that you would decide to post the emails rather than delete them.
My apologies.
~cem~stayin~outa~stuff~from~here~on~in
Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 10:10 pm
Caterpillar
Unfictologist
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 1887 Location: cem's otherbody
Valas wrote:
I must also point out that anyone disagreeing with this course of action, is definitely making themselves suspect. Our operating room becomes more and more limited, because of the presence of the mole. And that is something we can NOT tolerate, not if we want this whole tale to have an happy end.
I don't agree, but no one ever said we'd all agree on everything.
I don't think it was a planted Mole who forwarded the email...
It might have been someone just trying a different story "angle"?
It doesn't seem like the sort of thing a Mole would do...I think that anything a planted Mole would be involved in would have more of an impact on Dale or the storyline. I mean the PMs had Sam print a retraction and apology, would they neccessarily do that if the whole thing were their idea in the first place?
And can we have an impact on a planted Mole if the PMs don't wish us to? I don't think you'll catch a planted Mole unless the PMs want him/her to get caught.
Just my op. on the Mole thing...
~cem
Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 10:18 pm
Myssfitz
Unfettered
Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 695 Location: In the pasture
Oops
dmax wrote:
No apologies for thinking!
That's a possibility as well...
I missed the mole thread - why are we thinking that there's a mole?
And, while we're on the subject: who were you, posting without being registered?
Whoops. It was me
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 11:07 pm
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
Phyllis reply to my branch of friendship Subj: Re: Concerned
Date: 5/25/2003 11:59:58 AM Central Standard Time
From: hollowneedleSPLAT aglauranj.org
To: Prettycolors62SPLAT aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Sunny,
I don't know how we can get past this. How was my private correspondence with
you forwarded to Sam Greene of all people? I have been so mortified, so
overcome with despair, that I haven't left my bed for days. I am bereft of all
comfort. Nothing is as it seems. I can trust no one.
Phyllis
_________________Grace and Peace
Sunny Du Pree
I dreamed a dream and now that dream has come for me
Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 11:45 pm
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
My reply to phyllis in bed lelele Dear Phyllis:
I am so sorry to hear that you have been so ill but it does not surprise me as I have been feeling ill myself. I have been so upset over this whole business that I just don't know who to trust either. Now that someone has absconded with my personal correspondence it makes me think that I need to get special software for my computer to prevent hackers. You would be doing yourself a favor by changing your passwords. For what it is worth I contacted the Aglaura News and told them to take the email off that it was private correspondence. I told them that I needed a retraction. I tried to find out who sent it but the question was ignored. I guess they could tell that I was in earnest because they complied with my wishes. I have cleared my name. I can do no more than that. I will repeat myself. Watch those closest to you.
Now it is time for you to get out of bed and protect what is yours. Now is not the time to isolate yourself. Don't let them beat you and don't let them get you down. I know you are stronger than this.
Grace and Peace
Sunny
AN APOLOGY - May 22, 2003
The Aglaura NJ website apologizes to the person whose e-mail was included in our
last LOCAL NEWS update (since removed). The text of the e-mail in question was forwarded to us in an e-mail from another party, without an explanation that it wasn't there's
to share. We are sorry for any confusion or hardship this may have caused the actual
recipient of the e-mail in question.
_________________Grace and Peace
Sunny Du Pree
I dreamed a dream and now that dream has come for me
Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 11:50 pm
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
phyllis reply cure for depression Subj: from phyllis
Date: 5/26/2003 3:32:15 PM Central Standard Time
From: Prettycolors62
Dear Sunny,
Today I discovered the cure for depression -- it's anger! I sat down this
morning to go through the stack of mail that had piled up last week and found a
letter from my insurance company. They will not honor my insurance claim
because the manuscript page wasn't completely appraised yet! This news, of
course, infuriated me. Talk about insult to injury! I hadn't even declared the
painting so it's all just a total loss! I am almost certain that whoever stole
these items was thinking I would be compensated by insurance and this idea
eased their guilt. Do you suppose they will feel badly when they learn the
truth? No, probably not. No one likes me, except, maybe, you.
I don't know what to do. I need an expert appraisal and the only person who
seemed to know anything at all about the cursed page what that pompous Mr.
Penrose. Can you imagine?! It's almost too, too ironic! I am going to have to
approach the man most likely to have arranged for the theft of the page -- who
is in all likelihood currently in possession of it -- to see if he will fill
out the forms for my insurance!
Anyway, you've given me a few chuckles and I thought I'd return the favor and
give you a good laugh for today. Oh dear, just thinking about writing to
Penrose fills me with loathing. I mean, what shall I say? "My Dear Mr. Penrose,
Would you be so kind as to help me fill out the insurance claim for the
property you stole from me?" Ha, ha, ha! I just don't know... Do you have any
ideas about how I should go about this?
I am still your friend for I have no others,
Phyllis
_________________Grace and Peace
Sunny Du Pree
I dreamed a dream and now that dream has come for me
Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 11:53 pm
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
my reply to help phyllis Subj: Re: The Cure for Depression
Date: 5/26/2003 4:48:16 PM Central Standard Time
From: Prettycolors62
To: hollowneedleSPLAT aglauranj.org
Dear Phyllis:
I am so glad to hear from you and that you are out of bed. Dont quit yet. I will be glad to act as an intermidiary for you to get the information from Penrose. I think I will be alble to do it through my connection with this Professor that we have been discussing. I have made some inroads towards that end. I will be in contact with you soon.
As for the dead eyes...it seems like they are feeding off of your belief and faith. A sort of smorgasborg...how is that for a chuckle. I dont believe that they have caused any harm as of yet so dont be fearful. Keep at your daily duties for they will keep you grounded. Do not fear Phyllis I will do my best to get the information that is needed for your insurance compensation. Oh and just for the record the holdup with the gun to my head really happened. In 1992 I was in a Mail Box ect...mailing a letter to a friend and almost lost my life because of it. I was concious the whole time and had to endure it. Only my faith in God got me through that horrendous occurance.
Well I will be in contact soon.
Your friend
Sunny
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Sunny Du Pree
I dreamed a dream and now that dream has come for me
Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 11:54 pm
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
phyllis beggin me to help her sorry this is out of order..she sent this too me after I sent her the apology from the aglaura news
Sunny,
Am I strong? I used to think so. I believed I was doing what Father expected of
me. I believed I was doing what Douglas expected of me. But, where in all of
this was I ever doing what I expected. Was there ever an "I"? I wanted a life
of beauty, of the intellect, of visions manifested. I wanted to share my love
of antiquated things... Was that my mistake? Loving things? Everyone is
laughing at me; I cannot bear the ridicule, the whispers. I wanted to create a
grand society in Aglaura, a society based on merit and talent and an
appreciation of beauty. So vain, so hollow, so superficial. Nothing is real.
Nothing is as it appears. "Dead Eyes," you say. I've seen them. Everywhere.
But, others don't. It is another delusion. Another part of the white void in
which I find myself floating, waiting... Do you really like me? Really? I don't
think so. I think you have been using me like everyone else. All my life. Being
used, using... Do we get what we give or do we give what we get? I am who I am
because others have made me so. When do I get to be who I am? I have been
thinking about what you told me, about the gun to your head, and I am wondering
if that is true. Do we really have something in common or are you only catering
to me, using me like all the others? I need a friend; I really do. I am begging
you to be honest with me. Me, begging. That's how low I feel. Desperate for
someone to believe in me. Like the Dead Eyed Ones... I am dependant upon belief.
Phyllis
_________________Grace and Peace
Sunny Du Pree
I dreamed a dream and now that dream has come for me
Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 11:57 pm
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
Phyllis affirmation of friendship Subj: Re: The Cure for Depression
Date: 5/27/2003 1:56:12 PM Central Standard Time
From: hollowneedleSPLAT aglauranj.org
To: Prettycolors62SPLAT aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Dear Sunny,
You are a true friend if you spare me having to abase myself before that
Penrose character. I look forward to hearing any progress on this matter. Thank
you so much, dear one. It is such a relief to feel like someone is on my side.
Warm regards,
Phyllis
_________________Grace and Peace
Sunny Du Pree
I dreamed a dream and now that dream has come for me
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 12:00 am
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
Email I sent Penrose on Phyllis behalf Subj: re: The Stolen Manuscript
Date: 5/27/2003 4:41:45 PM Central Standard Time
From: Prettycolors62
To: informationSPLAT missingmanuscript.com
Hello Mr. Penrose
You may not remember me in all of the shuffle of new posts that you have received over the pasts few months but I wrote to you regarding a manuscript that a friend, Phyllis Willingham, possessed that was amazingly similar to yours. I regret to say that she was burgled one night and the manuscript as well as a priceless painting was stolen. It is an unfortunate circumstance that the manuscript was stolen before the appraisal of it could be completed so now she cannot recoup her losses until a complete appraisal is made. I hope that I'm not overstepping any boundaries, but I was wondering if you could assist me in resolving this matter. As an accredited historian, you could provide her with the succor that she currently needs to soothe her mind, after the brutal attack upon her person, so that she may put all of this behind her and start the mental healing process. I know it is highly irregular and somewhat improper, but I'm asking you as a gentleman to help a lady in distress. You are one of the few people that I could think of, who might be in a position to help her. I Hope that you'll forgive my impertinence, and will indulge me in my request. But poor Phyllis really needs a small break right now, lest her mind shatter into myriad fragments. And I doubt that she'd ever be able to pull herself together again afterwards. Thank you for your kind attention in this matter. I humbly await your answer.
Grace and Peace
Sunny Du Pree
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 12:02 am
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
My followup to phyllis about Penrose Subj: Re: The Cure for Depression
Date: 5/27/2003 5:08:01 PM Central Standard Time
From: Prettycolors62
To: hollowneedleSPLAT aglauranj.org
Dear Phyllis
I have just sent an email off to Penrose. Now it is just a wait and see game....
I hope that you are keeping busy and try not to worry. Things will be ok. Be sure and take care of yourself. All of this stress will make you ill. A good glass of sherry might help steady your nerves..but not too much! LOL
I will stay in touch and will email you the moment I get some news.
I will talk to you soon.
Grace and Peace
Sunny
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Sunny Du Pree
I dreamed a dream and now that dream has come for me
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 12:03 am
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
PHHEEWWWWW!!!!
Glad to have gotten that striaght!
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Sunny Du Pree
I dreamed a dream and now that dream has come for me
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 12:19 am
kimer
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 400 Location: South of Oz
Re: phyllis beggin me to help her
Sunny du Pree wrote:
Like the Dead Eyed Ones... I am dependant upon belief. Phyllis
This just jumped out to me.... reminded me of what Wes said in the IM regarding belief... hmmmmm
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