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Guin
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her name on the staff rosta is Bridgit Lilja

we posted as Bridget and even she did!!!!!

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Bridget Lilja
10th Dec 268 / 23:48

We've just put the finishing touches on our new message board system. Part of that was blowing out the old data. You can come to Angelica or Kevin if you really need anything that was in the old system, but I think we all know that won't be necessary. If you have a problem with the new board and it isn't just whining, you can come to me about it directly.

Bridget Lilja
11th Dec 268 / 10:08

Please note that 'I liked the old colours better' DOES count as whining.
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Jakeo
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Gibbet wrote:
From the Hesh Internal board:

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(Heather Mou - 26th Jan 269 / 17:05)
I don't have any idea who that is or what's going on, but the person offering to help you isn't me, Olivia. I'm not even a new employee, I started over two years ago!


She lies!!

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(Heather Mou's profile)
Heather Mou
Tech Intern
Department: Technology
Office Number: 409
Join Date: 05/12/268


...

If not, then someone's not playing fair. Social engineering with duff info is not so easy.


Ok, I'll 'fess up to this one. I am the Heather Mou who was posting here, I thought I had taken enough due care by finding someone who had just joined, esp. over Christmas when people all get lost, and YES it is difficult to social engineer when the facts are wrong Confused

What I did later spot is that there is a Stephanie Mou working in Marketing, and joined just over 2 years ago. I found her after my first post and thought I was probably sunk based on the fact they were likely to be sisters. I suppose it is possible that she changed her name, but it seems unlikely that she would also demote herself to intern if she was a marketing associate!

[EDIT]

I'm not Hector, trying to recover the thread. That was done by someone else Smile

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Guin
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Kevin Allbright
27th Jan 269 / 16:36

OK, folks, since we've suddenly got a rampant problem with people posting under false pretences, Bridgit and I have agreed on a measure to prevent this kind of thing in the future. All posts will be sent to you for approval from now on.

For right now we're going to waive this requirement for new employees whose systems aren't set up yet, but we'll certainly be keeping an eye out to see if that policy is abused. If it is, then we just won't allow new employees to post anymore.

And really, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. We thought here at Hesh that we were among honourable people.



Okay so we need to post under new people only otherwise any posts will not go to the board. But if Heather Mou reckons she has been there for years I suggest we dont post under her to be on the safe side. So any ideas? We really need to be careful. Im gonna look at all the new members now Shocked
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Jakeo
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Did you guys look before you posted as these people? You have to imagine we are really hacking. You dont use names of people who have left. You dont use names of the person who set up the message board (duh!) you dont use names of posters.

You look for quiet people who wouldnt post and you ask something they're likely to ask..

Some people really messed this up.



And now that its all broken down, I'd like to point out that I did do my research, did choose someone who hadn't posted and did ask something that they are likely to ask.

I would imagine that when this was posted this most people didn't think to verify what Heather was saying, that even though she says she worked there for 2 years, her profile says otherwise. I just would appreciate people trusting that some people make a reasonable effort to get things right the first time.

Its also important to remember that there is no way to truly social engineer, as any post made to that board was either written by a character, or came from earth and couldn't possibly have been real. if TIAG, then whoever finally releases the login does it because of a story thread, and not because we honestly tricked them with our nefarious talents.

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Jakeo
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Heather Mou
27th Jan 269 / 16:35

Uh, just because you weren't here for my first internship doesn't mean I didn't have one. You should know better, don't you have lunch with Stephie like every day?

Oh, wait. This is probably another joker trying to tip my wheel.


Yup, as I expected. Grr me Evil or Very Mad

Sorry for dropping the ball on this one. I didn't think to look for inter-Hesh relationships when I went through employment. My mistake Sad

I think this thread was doomed to failure though anyway. There is no way we could have known that she had had a previous internship (I suspect that when the page was first put together she hadn't Twisted Evil ) Looks like this is going to be another one of those IG interactions that was always going to pan out the same way

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Guin
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New staff:

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Anastasia Hotaling
Producer

Department: Production
Office Number: 210

Join Date: 05/12/268


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Umarah Bell
Sales Rep

Department: Sales
Office Number: 305

Join Date: 05/12/268



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Denton Amroliwallah
Sales Rep

Department: Sales
Office Number: 307

Join Date: 05/12/268



by my reckoning these are the best to post under - any ideas???

EDIT
also need to post from department to department - you wouldnt post from production about a production issue
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Daffy889
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Kevin wrote:
All posts will be sent to you for approval from now on.


We may have failed at using the board, but this new system now gives us a chance to get a message directly to any member of staff, simply by posting a message as them. Not that I know how that will help us, since we can hardly send a message saying "Hi, we're from Earth. Can you give us the file system password?". Something to keep in mind though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:18 pm
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Guin
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okay Ive been thinking about this during my wonderfully peaceful drive home Evil or Very Mad

so lets look at this logically. We can now post direct to the borad if we use new members of staff who wont be vetted as they havent been set up yet.

We are 3 new comers. we know no one / nothing about the different members. we probably havent even got a profile on the staff rosta - so whats not to say we embellish the truth a little?

Hows about posting a "hi Im x and I like blah" in the hope that someone else does the same. we might find that through this we get a little social engineering going?

Im not gonna post owt yet as I figured we need to at least think some strategy up and we have some opportunity to work on this now knowing it will post direct to the board.

am i talking too much penguin or is there a little bit of choclate in my logic?
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locqust
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No I think your onto somat there.

Only thing, do you think we could get away with making a name up? I would of thought that the staff roster we see is complete, I mean may not be, but from an OOG perspective MC would of given everything we need on that site.

I think we should try your idea but also give it a go again, only once, with another name on the roster. One of the names mentioned above.
That way we have 2 chances of getting what we need Very Happy
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My personal take on this is that 3 people should post. Just 3 people. If everybody posts as the same username it will get confusing and messed up. We have the three names. As a group you should decide what you want to say and one person should type it up, to keep typing/grammar consistency.

I.e - three people "become" these characters, but decide with the rest of the community what they say.

But it wont work that way, im sure people are posting there already.

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BrianEnigma
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Well, I dropped out of the game for a couple of weeks, then took another couple of lazy weeks to catch up. I finally think I'm up to speed with what's going on with the intranet. I just attempted to post the following message, supposedly from one of the talent scouts:

Quote:
Name: Grace Mai-Wan
Topic Title: Filesystem instructions
Message:
I'm out scouting for talent right now and won't be back for another week, so simply "dropping by" the tech department is out of the question. Can someone remind me what the filesystem password is again? I ran across some great music I'd love to share with all of you.


We'll see if it makes it.
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Guin
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So heres an idea. I havent posted as its early and I need coffee and was hoping for some feedback:

Anastasia Hotaling

Hey guys thought Id introduce myself as Im new here. I am really looking forward to being a part of the family here at Hesh. I am a keen pyramid player (keen does not necessarily mean good so any tips and help would be greatly welcome!!!) so I am hoping to join in the fun on Thursdays.

Denton Amroliwallah

It is good to be a part of such a great team. I am a secret Daemons fan, but please dont hold that against me. I especially like logic puzzles.

Umarah Bell

I hope I post this right! Being new is not as bad as I thought (apart from getting used to all the technical stuff - any help will be greatly welcomed) I enjoy outdoor activities.

Any ideas? any ways to develop these? As I said Im gonna leave the post till later (Im sure it wont go up til Monday anyway so we could use the time to perfect the posts.

Anyway need to drink coffee.

Remember a penguin is for life not just for coffee
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My post..

Right, I've decided to grasp the bull by the horns and try to be the one to use a successful attack on this problem...

I've sent an email to Kurt as follows:

Quote:

To: Kurt McAllister
Subject: Social Engineering

Kurt,
by the magic of social engineering, I'm hoping that I can convince someone at Hesh to send you the system password. I've said you're a friend of a new sales rep there by the name of Umarah Bell. It seems their technical is so bad that they might be forced to send out generic passwords by other means than key->key or on their system accounts! Try not to act too suprised, and let us all know if you manage to get access.



And a board post as follows:

Quote:

From: Umarah Bell
Subject: Just joined..?

You may think that having joined last year is recent, but it's a complete joke that I STILL don't have proper access to our internal systems. How am I supposed to meet my sales targets without support?

My systems aren't up, so you can't send password details to me any other way than posting here. How about if you send it to someone outside Hesh wth no access? A friend of mine at the academy, Kurt McAllister, is willing to be the go-between, and I hope you can consider him to be trustworthy enough to be discreet?

OR of course, you could get your collective technical acts together and get people setup within a few days rather than a few months?


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Okay, I havn't contributed to this thread yet but I've been following it closely. SteveC, although I usually respect you as a player, but I think that is an awful idea! Kurt is in enough trouble as it is without mentioning his name. I think (as do a few others) in future all posts to the Hesh intranet need to be approved by at least 3 unfiction members before its sent. We are not working together!
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Guin wrote:
So heres an idea. I havent posted as its early and I need coffee and was hoping for some feedback:

Anastasia Hotaling

Hey guys thought Id introduce myself as Im new here. I am really looking forward to being a part of the family here at Hesh. I am a keen pyramid player (keen does not necessarily mean good so any tips and help would be greatly welcome!!!) so I am hoping to join in the fun on Thursdays.


Pyramid is on Monday, as poker was already on Thursday.

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