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[Snic]

Had a conversation with the good Doctor today, she dodged the bit on the letter pretty well. Now, I know she states that this is not an ARG, but on the off chance this is real, here ya go:

(17:44:41) skaboy4242: Hi there
(17:49:29) drpherotone: Hi you still there?
(17:49:4 drpherotone: hallo?
(17:51:09) drpherotone: skaboy?
(17:51:14) drpherotone: u there?
(17:54:29) skaboy4242: Sorry,was out smoking
(17:54:3 skaboy4242: Are you still there?
(17:57:39) drpherotone: yes, that is fun, smoking, I miss it
(17:58:00) skaboy4242: Oh, did you quit recently?
(17:59:3 drpherotone: No, some time ago, but I still romancticize it
(17:59:4 drpherotone: it is a dangerous, illicit pleasure
(17:59:53) drpherotone: like so many things in life
(17:59:5 skaboy4242: Heh, isn't that how it always goes?
(18:00:53) skaboy4242: So, have you had any luck finding a distributor for your pherotones idea? Or are you still kinda locked?
(18:01:30) drpherotone: oh yes, lots of luck, nothing I can really talk about yet, not until we put a bow on the package, and the ink is dry
(18:02:3 skaboy4242: Ah, well good for you.
(18:03:15) drpherotone: This is going to happen. I can feel it in my bones
(18:04:43) skaboy4242: Any ideas on that cryptic letter you received?
Some friends of mine and I have been looking at it and we have the Danish bits figured out, but we're having troubles with it's hidden meaning.
(18:05:20) skaboy4242: Best we can figure is it's long/lat coordinates, but having some issues placing what it could mean.
(18:05:26) drpherotone: what kind of trouble?
(18:05:41) drpherotone: you are not sure what they are?
(18:05:43) drpherotone: are you?
(18:05:56) skaboy4242: Well, it looks like the coordinates point to somewhere in Research park, but bits of it don't play out.
(18:06:29) drpherotone: have you seen my open letter to the ARG community
(18:07:00) skaboy4242: Was it posted in your blog? I haven't checked that today
(18:09:05) drpherotone: No, I think it is up at ARGN
(18:09:1 drpherotone: basically, I want everyone to understand that this si not a game
(18:09:2 drpherotone: I don't want anyone mad at me for wasting their time
(18:09:34) skaboy4242: Okay
(18:11:4 skaboy4242: Still fun trying to figure out what's going on with the letter if nothing else.
Not a whole lot going on in the ARG community right now.
(18:12:2 drpherotone: I know, I'm all for fun, but I don't want to be anyhone's wild goose, who they later grow to hate
(18:13:16) skaboy4242: I'm reading through the letter now, I don't think anyone will be terribly dissapointed. You've made it pretty clear that this is not an ARG as we thought it was.
(18:13:36) drpherotone: That doesn't mean there is not fun to be had here, though.
(18:13:45) drpherotone: did you have a favorite pherotone?
(18:13:51) drpherotone: the fun is in self discovery
(18:14:02) drpherotone: and enhancing life's pleasure
(18:14:47) skaboy4242: I'm more fascinated by the science behind it. I'm an aspiring programmer and deal with audio engineering in my spare time, so while the tones don't do much the ideas behind them fascinate me.
(18:16:52) drpherotone: Yes, if we could actually prove that something embedded or carried through the air on soundwaves could do such a thing, it will all be worth it
(18:17:07) drpherotone: There is lots of anthropological datat to back this up.
(18:17:16) drpherotone: but anthro is soft science
(18:18:10) drpherotone: love songs
(18:18:1 drpherotone: music
(18:18:24) skaboy4242: Well, tones have been known to provoke all sorts of responses in people.
(18:18:29) drpherotone: everyone knows it's something, but what is it?
(18:19:21) skaboy4242: Well, there's a lot of popular beliefs behind it, one really good study along the same lines is a tone that can actually cause you to have an experience similar to taking ecstasy
(18:20:54) drpherotone: can you point me to some of this, that is exactly what I am talking about
(18:21:23) skaboy4242: Umm, I can prolly find it, it's been a while since I looked into it.
(18:21:23) drpherotone: you can get pretty riled up at some religious rituals...you know there is sex cult music
(18:21:35) drpherotone: from ancient greece,if we only knoew how to play it
(18:24:1 skaboy4242: Yeah, the tricky bit is finding the right tone and beat.
(18:25:15) drpherotone: they funniest part about all of this is when we actually come up with a real basis for our theory, that's why I invite so much public particiapation.
(18:27:15) skaboy4242: I look forward to hearing any advances you make on this, like I said I enjoy playing with audio engineering in my free time, so this is all very fascinating to me.
(18:29:37) drpherotone: seriously, no kidding, can you reccomend a book for me?
(18:30:20) skaboy4242: Yeah, I'll dig through my collection and see what I have, I'm at work right now though.
(18:31:01) drpherotone: thanks...
(18:31:26) drpherotone: I need to get offline for awhile, but you can always email me, or post your suggestion on my blog
(18:31:32) drpherotone: in the comments section, if you want
(18:31:3 drpherotone: anonymousely, of course
(18:31:45) skaboy4242: Later
(18:32:43) drpherotone: bye now

[Mightyslick]

I did some looking around i found this

"Once a stimulus has been able to reach the thalamus, the master brain is automatically invaded, and if the stimulus is continued for some time, a closer contact between the master brain and the world of reality can be thus established." Music and Medicine, pp. 270, 271." more can be found HERE

brought this up to the Doc. She replied even though her away was up


drpherotone: YOU RULE
drpherotone: stay on the line
Delta ESCORT: !!!!
drpherotone: I have to leave my away message up, because
drpherotone: I am getting way too many IM's tonight and I have to work
drpherotone: but please tell me more.
Delta ESCORT: yes?
drpherotone: I found some good stuff by a guy named havelock Eliis, but it is over 100 years old.
drpherotone: who else is on to this
Delta ESCORT: well it seems that music has had an effect on man for a long time
drpherotone: yes,
Delta ESCORT: so i would says that lots have look into this , i know none of thier names currently
drpherotone: Auto-reply: Sorry, but all heck is breaking loose in the lab today. New discoveries every minute. Please post your comment or questions to my blog. Pherotones.blogspot.com.
drpherotone: I will go farther than seems.
drpherotone: It does.
Delta ESCORT: my problem is though how can a phone ring long enough to stimulate
drpherotone: what I need to isolate is what it is IN that music that arouses.
drpherotone: well, it is pretty hit or miss, but if you have the right nanotones resonating in the right brainstem, the results could be instantaneous
drpherotone: I think
drpherotone: not sure
drpherotone: it was in me
drpherotone: immediate, profound, powerful


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[Mightyslick]

sry but doc got back with me again here some pieces that may help

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drpherotone: we test all pherotones on ourselves,
Delta ESCORT: what better way to test . I imagine the lab is a pretty "steamy" place to work when testing
drpherotone: I had apersonal experienc ethat pushed me into this research
drpherotone: we take precautions
Delta ESCORT: hehe
drpherotone: frequent breaks
drpherotone: where we go outside to get some fresh air and clear out heads.
Delta ESCORT: so this experince , where did it take place
drpherotone: also, awareness of pherotones is a good antidote, if you know WHY you feel aroused, it is easier to resist it
drpherotone: in copenhagen. I was attending a conference
Delta ESCORT: hmm this confrence made you aware of the power of sound?
drpherotone: no, I was minding my own business, having a drink in the hotel bar, when I heard a ringtone going off, for an instant I was annoyed.
drpherotone: I looked up and saw a strapping, distinguished older gentleman fumbling through his jhacket pockets looking of rhis phone. By the time he was telling the caller he would have to talk later, I was his.
Delta ESCORT: hmm so someone already had implamented this technology into a phone
drpherotone: That led to a very wild weekend, a four day weekend...and that weekend led me to explore Pherotonal phenomena
drpherotone: no, I think it was a random occurance...an inadvertent embedding of my own personal pherotonal code...but then I thought
drpherotone: if this pherotonal sequence works for me, let's see if others can work for other people
drpherotone: so I started asking around
drpherotone: at first I only found ringtone fetishists, people who got turned on at rintones
drpherotone: ringtones*
Delta ESCORT: hmm it takes all types i guess
drpherotone: but then I started hearing about isolated incidents where a spike or arousal occurred concurrent with a ringtone, but arousing a person who was not predilected to respond to ringtones per se
drpherotone: that led me to where I am now, gathering evidence of experience and trying to find the pherotonal frequencies that have the broadest appeal
Delta ESCORT: i see. plot the "hits" and find the constelation and there is your general pherotone
drpherotone: you got it
drpherotone: are you a scientist too?
Delta ESCORT: heh, no i am a fabricator
drpherotone: steelworker or liar
Delta ESCORT: heheh yup burning welding rods all day long
drpherotone: That is an art
drpherotone: I have a friend who sculpts...she's a good welder though, she can weld aluminum foil together
drpherotone: but not for a living...
drpherotone: that is hard work...you must be burly and strong
Delta ESCORT: heh, thats my pic there bottom left.. no i am 5'7'' and a 140 pounds. but it does work the body out a bit
Delta ESCORT: i do understand the power of sound i am also a bassist
drpherotone: so you know why women love bass, deep heavy base...I think some men feel a tingle too
drpherotone: bass* not base
Delta ESCORT: yeah it is the back bone of a band
Delta ESCORT: only felt a tingle when i sat on my amp !
drpherotone: that is a situation where sound stimulates the nerve endings of the arousal zones directly, through vibration
drpherotone: hahahahaha
drpherotone: lol
drpherotone: if you turn it up loud enough, and hit the right note, you too will feel the tingle
drpherotone: try playing chords
drpherotone: do you like the Melvins?
Delta ESCORT: aaa....i am sure i have heard somthing of thiers...i am a big Primus fan myself
drpherotone: ok, well, then the women who respond to your bass playing are more eclectic than I am...I respond to long, sustained, heavy bass
Delta ESCORT: i see
drpherotone: but some woman like multiple bass notes...as many as possible up and down and up and down the scale
Delta ESCORT: well can a phone produce enough bass for this to work , or are you focusing more on the whole range of freqs
Delta ESCORT: well Doc, i don't mean i cut this conversation short. I must go to work in the morn . maybe i will have somthing for ya tomorrow as well
Delta ESCORT: im in virginia if ya need test subjects
drpherotone: great
drpherotone: thanks for the chat..sorry if I was alittle distracted
drpherotone: tomorrow
Delta ESCORT: sure thing
drpherotone:
drpherotone: bye now
Delta ESCORT: laters

GG doc

[Duckie]

Ah, I swear I don't normally check these sort of things at 3:40 in the morning. Oh, college.

Anyway, I think I can safely state for all of us that there's not much need to work all that closely together, anymore. According to the update at www.pherotones.com, theres a chance to win $6900, if you can submit proof of Pherotones at work... MMmmm, it would be nice to have the cash to pay a fifth of my tuition.

May the best amateur director win.

[Spankit]

Don't think this has been posted yet. I don't think you have to log in to read it. At least, I hope not: New York Times Article

[chippy]

so has anyone managed to download them and try them out? I think its only a USA thing?

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its also posted up on The Register

[jamesi]

Pherotones was featured (albeit for a brief moment or two) on CNN's "American Morning" this morning.

[Clayfoot]

Just got this banner ad when browsing Yahoo TV listings.

[thunderclap8]

aw man, the tones don't work with Verizon phones. I'm not normally a ringtone kind of guy, but these are free and would have been fun to play with.

[teh_lisa]

yeah i mentioned the idea to the doc that they most likely wont work with verizon phones, seeing as nothing does unlees it comes from the devil, i mean verizon themselves. not much you can do about it. *shrug*

start inviting people to sit in front of your computer

lisa anne

[Clayfoot]

[thunderclap8]

[jason]

so who won the research grant?