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[jojojojo]

[psyche]

Re the accents - Michiko did indeed have an 'American' accent, but so did Scarlett when she was interviewed. Those on track3 are definitely English, but pretty pure received pronunciation, IMO, not specifically London at all.

Michiko did say something in that interview about her having come from a particular region, and that the regions have different accents. But since Scarlett has the same accent and is very much 'from' Perplex City it seems likely to be a common accent in PC. But it would be helpful to know if there is a 'majority' accent in PC. I would have thought. American and RP English are different enough for it to be odd that both would be common in one town.

I don't think that 'spraying' can have been Monica having her throat cut, because she spoke to Sylvia as she was dying, and if her throat and windpipe had really been cut then she would have been a) dead before Sylvia got there and b) unable to talk. Excepting the initial whisper over the intercom, Sylvia definitely says that Monica 'said' things, not gurgled or hissed! And although she says there was blood coming from her 'head and neck', that doesn't necessarily imply a cut throat.

EDIT: Clearly didn't do my research on the accents thing, as looking back I see that noone ever said that the track3 voices had London accents at all, and I was totally wrong about Scarlett's accent. To compensate, here's the actual quote for what Michiko said about accents in the TalkSport interview:

[jojojojo]

[psyche]

Oh, apologies. You're quite right, I've just listened to it and she's definitely English. I had been told that she had the same voice as Michiko, but clearly I was misinformed.

[Jotacon]

Just listened to track_3. Brutal. I'm not sure what that spraying noise could be now that I've listened. *shudders* On a side note, it's nice to have the insert and not have to go to the end of the Viard CD.

As for the Scarlett interview, no. Not the same voice. Not even close.

[GasparLewis]

Personally, I think it's the neurological agent they got Mendling (the security guard) with on the night of the heist.

Consistent method of death, hard-to-trace, provides time and ability to talk before kicking the bucket.

That's my theory.

[PuzzledPineapple]

Following the 'Cyrus is good and was keeping the track as proof of V's evil doings' line of thought, where would the player names fit in? The only way I can figure it is that someone somewhere along the way must have prepared the track as a threat for us (it can't be used to implicate us, the names are vague enough that only we'd make the connection, any Perplexian would assume that it's a bunch of Perplexians). It is possible that Cyrus got hold of it after that or put it together for V before deciding to be good, but that means that V still wants to use it as a threat at some point in the future. That being said, he'll probably know that we've heard it now and so won't use it himself, so this is all unconfirmable spec, the best kind.

Then there's the whole 'is Helena evil' aspect. She set us onto this - without her and Kurt's involvment, we wouldn't have the Hesh site. If she's 3P then either a) this is a very convoluted way to threaten us (just send us an email with the track for crying out loud) or b) their operation to flush out the mole (inverse to the Clapham common kind) backfired and gave us this track that was left by Cyrus to blackmail V in the event of him being bumped off (in that it links V to Cyrus death, if he has been bumped off). If she's not 3P, this can't be a method to threaten us and it's entirely coincidental that the track was threatening, that can't be the way that Cyrus meant it. That being said, I suppose it is possible that she's being set up even more, but it's pretty useless if that's the way they planned it.

My money's on evil Helena, good Cyrus, but that's neither here nor there.

Oh, and I love being inconspicuous, 3P can't go after me if their mole can't remember me.

[tally]

Perhaps another way of thinking about it would be to imagine what Cyrus intended to use the recording for... private listening pleasure ( a kinky passtime); as a safeguard against possible threats from V (blackmail, if threatened); to secretly alert us by inserting in a possible second, future, planned cd release to earth..?

It seems odd, as puzzledpineapple says, that it would be left deliberately for us to find. I know that doesn't answer the why are some of our names on the track listing... but I do think maybe it was Cyrus' secret plan for protection against harm from V. Maybe V disappeared him anyway, before he had a chance to use the incriminating evidence?

[jojojojo]

For the next few dqys we'll just have to speculate. I'm fairly certain that Scarlett/Violet/Kurt's next update will shed more light on this and we can decide what to do next. My money's on Scarlett finding Clare Castille, and us finding out information that way. It's about time Scarlett was more involved with the overall plot.

[psyche]

[duckiemonster]

A couple of points:

*medic hat on* If she'd have had her throat cut, there's no way that she'd still be alive for Sylvia to talk to her; a carotid slash can kill you very quickly. A jugular bleed would take a little longer, but if you're hitting one, you're more than certainly going to hit the other, especially in a 'heat of the moment' straight draw around the front of the throat, as the carotid arteries are the more central of the great vessels in the neck and lie immediately to either side of the trachea.

She also wouldn't have been able to speak, what with all of the air leaving her body from a whacking great hole in her throat before it hit her larynx. We'd have heard the wheezing and the bubbling and more than likely one sharp cry.

Finally, slashing someone's throat is hideously, totally and completely messy. We had a lecture from a guy who pieces together crime scenes, there were photos, and there's absolutely no way in hell that V would have been able to just walk out of the building after slashing someone's throat. Yeah, they get away with it in films, black clothing can cover so many sins etc etc etc, but you just can't grab someone and do that and not get covered in blood.

I'm sticking to the 'throttling' theory. V does not appear to be a proficient killer, if this is indeed his 'kink', then he'll want to enjoy the look in her eyes when she's completely under his power (argh, feel awfully gruesome now...) *medic hat off*

I might ask one of the pathology guys up at the hospital about this, they might have a bit more info.

And now for something completely different: Why not Quint = 5 = V? After all, we had Grand = 1000 = K, didn't we?

[jojojojo]

Thank you duckie for that *lovely* descriptive post. I'm sure we all feel much *better* now we have all that imagery in our heads!

No seriously, good to have a medic POV.

[sixsidedsquare]

Um, I think this is a first, but I have an idea.
How 'bout we see if Kurt can check the logs of calls coming into the Academy on the day of the theft, and see what office any incoming from Hesh went to?
Of course, this sounds far too plausible to work

[sledgecallier]

Has there been and decision made as to whether we get Kurt to take the recordings to Helena Frye or the Police?

To be honest I don't think we can do anything BUT take the info to the polive because if it gets uncovered later in the investigation then they can get Kurt on 'withholding information vital to a case' and it would benefit none of us to loose such an important contact in Perplex City..?

[jojojojo]

My personal feeling on that is wait till we've had a blog update this week but saying that...

TIAG: MC will only ignore our messages anyway if they don't fit with the plot.

EDIT: Me not make sense.