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redkore
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HAVRE-: I thought the teleport thingie was just a scam? .. noi said that you´ve been here and said so rk_marc
rk_marc: i don't recall saying that, havre
HAVRE-: oh, how good
rk_marc: perhaps noi didn't understand what i was saying?
HAVRE-: Might well be se
HAVRE-: *so
rk_marc: i think so, havre.
HAVRE-: Uh, my head aches, my mouth is dry, my ears are ringing, yes. iv´e been to concert last night Very Happy
rk_marc: perhaps people should learn to think for themselves?
HAVRE-: rk_marc that would be great Wink

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rk_marc: havre, may i briefly explain the problem? (re. noi, i think...)
HAVRE-: rk_marc go ahead
rk_marc: ok. people were getting confused about how this works, and that was largely my "fault"
rk_marc: i was creating a structure to assist, but it had gone too far.
rk_marc: the stage 1-4, intellect, imagination, intuition, etc. stuff
rk_marc: the problem was that this was my creation
rk_marc: and people were latching onto it rather than creating their own
HAVRE-: I see
rk_marc: i explained to noi that teleport is a tool for developing personal creativity
rk_marc: it is a multidimensional transport system
HAVRE-: Aah
rk_marc: but it does not work the way ppl seemed to think
rk_marc: like it was a systematic magic wand or something
rk_marc: ppl seem to underestimate the power of genuine personal creativity.
rk_marc: the system works if the individual creates for him/herself
rk_marc: i kind of explained this, but i think noi felt that i was saying this was "just" a creativity tool
HAVRE-: Misunderstanding is misunderstood (c) DAD
rk_marc: Smile
rk_marc: it was important to redo our site bec. this was going in the wrong direction
rk_marc: many ppl are unused to creating for themselves
HAVRE-: True
rk_marc: and if you want to use teleport to teleport, you need to create
rk_marc: that is the path for all of us
HAVRE-: Allright
rk_marc: creating according to whatever our special, unique abilities are
HAVRE-: interesting
rk_marc: that is extremely powerful..
rk_marc: to genuinely create as an individual
HAVRE-: Yes
rk_marc: rather than just copying some1 else (even if you dont realize that's what you're doing..)
rk_marc: so, when i call it a tool for creativity, that is what i mean.
HAVRE-: I see
HAVRE-: Glad we cleared that out
rk_marc: yes.

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rk_marc: nannou, did the post clear things up a bit?
nannou: yes, thanks for clearing things up
rk_marc: np.
rk_marc: perhaps it's easier to understand why i need to be so "cryptic" about how this works...
rk_marc: Smile
rk_marc: it's too easy to latch onto someone else's ideas
rk_marc: rather than creating one's own
rk_marc: to create oneself is purer
rk_marc: to follow someone else necessarily filters your experience through them
rk_marc: and that's not very teleporty
rk_marc: Smile
nannou: =)
BeowulfX: it must be hard when the world is at your fingertips(through the internet)
rk_marc: true, beo.
nannou: the hard part is to understand if you are going your own road or following someone without knowing it
rk_marc: exactly!
rk_marc: that's the whole point!
rk_marc: Smile
rk_marc: the power of genuine personal creativity is remarkable...and imagine sharing that...groups of creative individuals pooling their creative energy...
rk_marc: that, my friends, is TELEPORT
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 		Wow
If I am reading this right, that seems to imply that there may not be definite outcomes (destinations) for each of the trips, but rather that just like a real visit to the countryside, we will creat our own trip with our own experiences and it will be the nature of our creativity that guides us toward individual destinations. Is this a metaphysical Travelocity? We choose the trip, we choose the mechanism, we choose the adventure? And we can choose to collaborate or not as we please? Too many questions I know, but it is so freaking intriguing to me.

Therefore, like all creative outputs, there is no right or wrong answer only a subjective appreciation of the fundamental questions - what is the artist attempting to do, are they successful at doing so, and what are the techniques that the artist (creative human being) has chosen to utilize to get there?

Ye gods.

FLP!

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 		Re: Wow
UbbeAgonistes wrote:
Too many questions I know, but it is so freaking intriguing to me.


hey Ubbe,

i'm not sure if your questions are directed at redkore, others, yourself, all of us....

for our part, we can't really answer questions like these.

we're not authorities when it comes to your experience of TELEPORT.

all we provide is a basic structure, one which is very responsive to the individual's creativity.

there are ideas informing the creation of the structure, but they are not particularly intellectual. i could not express them very well in words.

hope you enjoy your trip.
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ubbe
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 		Questions2
I had a long post in reply, but I lost it. Basically (in the midst of a huge diatribe about creativity and originality) it said that I am posing the questions to myself and anybody else who can help me answer the questions for me. Or at least choose different questions.

I appreciate the position you are in. You have your own relationship with the infinite which is distinct from mine.

Or not.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 11:30 am
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 		But Jimini Hendrix was "wrong" let's remember when he likened it to the Plubius Enigma. The trip is not the experience itself (or simply thinking -- whereas the Plubius Enigma was about interaction with other people, Jimini Hendrix said this was about "mental voyages" or, simply, *thinking* and/or the internet as a form of "travel" in non-space)...

No, it is none of these things, don't forget! TELEPORT is rather, a "multidimensional teleport system" with specific destinations somewhere on the "astral plane".

I wonder if the site has been discombobulated in order to simply let the mystery of TELEPORT hang in the air forever...

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Ubbe
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 		Yeah,
It certainly seems like there are destinations involved. I would agree. And the date seems to be leading us to a time element when something may be released - new information, a special surprise, another kit to order...

I would be sad if the site was altered smiply to confuse us into perpetuity. I don't think so.

I take Marc at his word that he removed some elements because they were the result of his creative input not our own.

But what it means beyond that is beyond me.

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 		ah ha
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rk_marc: np.
rk_marc: perhaps it's easier to understand why i need to be so "cryptic" about how this works...

I think I postulated earlier in a sperate thread about the fact that Marc was answering our questions as clearly as was possible. I dont believe teleport deals in any absolutes really... and thuus its a little hard to answer questions which are posed as absolute ie. "what is this thing?" "how does this thing work" etc.
Also I never understood why this thing was compared to the Plubius Enigma considering that from the beginning, Marc has stated that all you need is: "you, the cards" the enigma was about connection through people... teleport CAN be about that but it doesnt have to be...
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