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[PUZZLE] #251 - Silver - The Thirteenth Labour - READ POST#1
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thelayfields
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Test stuff

I loaded Mono, but now what do I have to do to get crunching stuff? I have one computer that run 24/7 and my laptop can run stuff in the background while I work.

Thanks

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hopkapi
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If you're on a mac, make sure you've downloaded both the 13labour folder, and the pathless folder, then copy the contents of the pathless folder into the 13labour folder (replacing the files from the 13folder when the finder asks you). It doesn't really matter where you put them, I've got the folder on my desktop at the moment (because that's where Safari downloaded them to and I'm a lazy bastard).

Now, open Terminal (found in the Applications:Utilities folder), and type "cd " (that's cd with a space), then drag the 13labour folder onto the terminal window and press enter. Now type "mono TestClient.exe" (that's mono with a space then TestClient.exe) and press enter.

Hopefully it should prompt you for your email and name and start to work.

(I'm the guy with the MacBook, it's currently on its first work unit after many false starts, at 9900000, doing one blip every 9 seconds or so, it appears I had one too many 0's in the config file as yoinking one of them fixed the crashing I was experiencing.)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:29 pm
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Flynn
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hopkapi wrote:
If you're on a mac, make sure you've downloaded both the 13labour folder, and the pathless folder, then copy the contents of the pathless folder into the 13labour folder (replacing the files from the 13folder when the finder asks you). It doesn't really matter where you put them, I've got the folder on my desktop at the moment (because that's where Safari downloaded them to and I'm a lazy bastard).

Now, open Terminal (found in the Applications:Utilities folder), and type "cd " (that's cd with a space), then drag the 13labour folder onto the terminal window and press enter. Now type "mono TestClient.exe" (that's mono with a space then TestClient.exe) and press enter.

Hopefully it should prompt you for your email and name and start to work.

(I'm the guy with the MacBook, it's currently on its first work unit after many false starts, at 9900000, doing one blip every 9 seconds or so, it appears I had one too many 0's in the config file as yoinking one of them fixed the crashing I was experiencing.)


The above also applies to Linux, at least for Ubuntu. Another note for Linux users, I've noticed that the throttle setting seems to have a reduced effect compared to Windows. I've been setting it up on a few Win boxes that sit around doing very little, and a throttle setting of 500 sees it using about 25% processor. At a throttle setting of 100 on my Linux machine it's using about 60%. Some of that is probably down to Mono, but just a word of warning - be cautious with the throttle setting on Linux (and by the sound of it, Mac) machines.

Got it running on 10 machines 24/7 now, and should be able to round up a few more tomorrow - it's nice being the guy who looks after a lot of under-used PC's sometimes Wink

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Guin
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sorry forgot to say i have not put the link up yet as the final client is not completed as Chimera is completing this at the moment. I put the site info out so I could check response etc - so far several emails to which I can reply directly and several (well 61 in 2 days) hits. Thats just from UF and PXC before putting thisa in my LJ / email sig etc and generating more interest.

I have a presentation to complete tonight and will be on and off. But will update the site if I have any news
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I seem to be having some problems with this on my mac. I've been told by windowsers that the client should stop processing each work unit at about 147, mine's ended at 264. Is this a coding problem with the pathfree stuff?
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Flynn
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I'm seeing most of my workunits finishing at 14700000, however the one it's doing now has just ticked over 27000000. I don't know if this is a problem or not, chimera can hopefully tell us.

Actually, just out of curiosity, What does a "unit" consist of? I assume it's a set of generated keys or similar, but how many? Like I said, just curious really - how many units do we need to process before we cover all the potential keys (hopefully, we'll have an answer before that happens of course Wink )

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mac_monkey
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Hi,
Like Ollie, I've been having the same problems on the mac, some work units are going way over 20million keys. In answer to Flynn's question there are I think 14million work units. But im not sure if they contain a standard amount of keys or just an average of 14.7million.

I hope chimera can enlighten us soon
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chimera245
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Hi,

I think I may say for the moment that the Mac client is unreliable. I have no evidence that it is doing anything wrong calculation-wise - but it does go burko every now and again.

As for the past 14.7 million the client should not do that.

There was a bug that if you didn' for some reason get a work unit - or the PROC.TXT file had a negative number in it, then the PC would continue churning forever. This is fixed in

http://www.e-wire.net.au/~eb_oakla/pxc/patch004.zip

Can those of you who have had the pst 14.7 million issue PM me, and let me know what machines you had the problem on please.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:50 pm
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Fuseunderground
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Right, first of all I may not be able to get all of the PC's I mentioned before, because despite the network/IT guy saying:
"sure you can use them sounds cool mumble mumble l337 mumble"

he says he "can't allow the client access to the internet mumble policy mumble" Crying or Very sad
I still have plans to get at least 10 others, don't you worry Wink

On another note, I tried:
Quote:
http://www.e-wire.net.au/~eb_oakla/pxc/patch004.zip

on my home pc, it processed alright, but when it had finished it said
"Problems encountered closing work unit, waiting for retry" every 5 mins

I Just ran the testclient.exe, I have all the .net stuff,
It didn't ask for my e-mail address as mentioned above,
am I missing something? Have I done something wrong?

Rich

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:32 pm
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thelayfields
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problem at 147

Everytime the workunit proceeds, I get an error at 14700000 (I think I got the 0's right). Then it has to retry and eventually fails again. I don't remembe the workunit specifically though. I'll let you know if it happens with this retry.

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Misroi
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I encounter this same problem, but it eventually figures itself out, and downloads the next WU.

Also, it processes in increments of 100k, so your number is right, IIRC.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:24 pm
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chimera245
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That is not a real 'Error', but a congestion warning.

I have changed it to something a bit less alarming in the latest client.

FYI the test web server has a very limited number of simultaneous connections - the client simply retries until it gets one.

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Misroi
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Ah, sounded like it was something along those lines.

By the by, how close are we to the proposed 250 boxes you were looking for?

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Loric
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<delurk>

I've been following what's been going on with this card. Good job Chimera in getting this set up and running... not having mad coding or cryptographic skillz means that all I can do is offer cycles toward the goal. I've d/l the client (patch 004), and I can have it running pretty much 24/7 on my 2.8 Ghz box.

</delurk>

Thanks,

Loric

edit: I'm evidently having the same error Rich is above: I processed until 6,100,000, then it locked up trying to end the unit (#808482864) - "Problems encountered closing work unit, waiting for retry". It's been 30 minutes now, compared to 6 minutes processing.
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SpinneNetz
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I'm running the program on a Dual 2ghz G5 running OSX 10.3.9, and it's finishing a work unit in about an hour, with usualy around 26 million processed.

Unfortunately the throttle settings don't seem to affect the speed at all, so I'm hoping the next version will fix this and allow the program to make better use of my CPU's power.

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