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[chimera245]

Miranda

[Jotacon]

She might be trying to get Kurt used to the taste(if any) little by little. Just adding more and more. Eventually, she would reach lethal levels. I'm also not sure where to go with this, except that he is (obviously) one of the CRT. I can see why people might want him dead.

[worthy_m]

I don't particularly trust Miranda either, but I also suspect Jason as well. I've gone over both Violet's and Kurt's blogs from the time around Cymbalisty's death, and the main problems I see are:
Miranda says:

[CoolCats712]

Taking Jason's testimony (which I haven't seen any reason to doubt; he at least seems sincere), he last saw Cymbalisty at Resolution and Scholar's. Cymbalisty then had to walk at least four blocks to get to his apartment. Granted, 6:15 isn't exactly prime time for mugging, but all we're certain of is that he turned up back in his apartment by noon the next day. That's a rather large block of time unaccounted for. Plus, Cymbalisty lives adjacent to Polygon Park, which I'm sure is fantastic for slipping away into the night. If the person(s) who did this are capable of removing all traces of dust and DNA from a room, I'm sure loading Cymbalisty with Ceretin (I suppose this would have to be pre-mortem?) and slipping him back into his apartment would be trivial. In other words, the coffee's a prop.

And I agree, Miranda's fishier than tuna tettrazini. Her testimony just doesn't add up. Whether she did the deed or not, her hand's got to be in there somewhere. Come to think of it, if C. really was as gaga over her as Violet claims, she could easily have suggested a date. That might explain Jason's comment that he seemed "keen to get home."

[Weefz]

[kizandtango]

Yeah id agree with that, the whole coffee source thing as i mentioned earlier could play a key part in this if we are lucky enough. Anna is speaking to the cleaners next week too, so that could turn something up. Now i think we need to establish where this coffee is coming from as weefs said, It will be either single cup instant,Single cup percolator (SP?) Or Coffee pot Filled enough to last all day. In which case, the drug could have been in the pot itself before filled, the filter for the coffee (if using a drip percolator), the jar/packet of coffee, or the mug (best bet is the coffee itself, as the other 3 could risk being cleaned beforehand and washing the drug out) OR of course, someone he knows and trusts made the coffee for him.
Am I rambling here or am i making a valid point? Im never sure which im doing !

[Small Geezer]

I kind of assumed this drug, like most others, would be white, so when ground would be easier to hide in sugar. Or heaven forbid if they use something as evil as milk powder or beverage whitener?

[Weefz]

[Small Geezer]

Thanks Weefz, omission on my part there then!

The levels found in Cymbalisty are massive, which is why the more I think about this the more I agree with the previous observation that the coffee cup is a suicide prop. This must have been ingested over a longer period of time than could typically be characterised by drinking one cup of coffee.

Perhaps his pills were swapped or otherwise an injection seems likely?

[modern_hero]

[Weefz]

[modern_hero]

[Small Geezer]

It's likely to be the same as other drugs in that if you take a lot of it, as an addict would, the effects reduce?

[sledgecallier]

My feeling is that the Ceretin is still just a red herring and that he died of something else and the ceretin was either used as a convenient cover-up drug or was just blindly assumed to be the cause of death by the police.

[jojojojo]