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#098 - Magic Square
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maniacfive
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I love this card, its one of my favorites, I love the design of it. If people could shed mpore light on what the machine it depicts, and the lake, if its a specific lake.

(Why am i reminded of Traces? Confused)

I thought it may have been for a elavator or something because of the shaft like appearance in the bottom right, but now realise its nuts and bolts, not a tower.

On an aside, I bought the last 3 packs of cards my local games shop had today, in the vain hope of getting the last blacks and silvers i needed. No such luck! but the guy behind the counter said he's no more till the next set arrives in 2 weeks.

He's hardly an inside man, but looks like we'll have wave 3 first week of april.
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Guin
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maniacfive wrote:
I love this card, its one of my favorites, I love the design of it. If people could shed mpore light on what the machine it depicts, and the lake, if its a specific lake.


Im working on it Very Happy

I think I have a few ideas but I have to look harder.

THe design is also now one of my faves. I am intregued as to the man and arms ......

The lake and the building too - just cant put my finger on it - i need the original really to get a better look
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I know what you mean Guin, that's a familiar view.

Something else struck me though, I know I've come across Felix Kiessling before. It's been niggling since Forever Foe (I think he's designed another too, but can't remember which).

Anyway, have tracked down where...it's at Pleasurecards. He's designed a series of cards for them. It's an incestuous little world this new media cabal! Sense network (market research and networking thing) has cards...I've previously mentioned them as Michael Smith is on the "Brand Council" (to me it sounds like a dulux coffee morning, but I might be wrong).

Which also reminds me of something else that I've thought, although not posted (except in #syzygy),it's OT but follows on from these thoughts. It's definitely meta so if you like your curtains drawn look away now:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I think our Violet is based on a real life person...Victoria Coren. My circumstantial, insubstantial evidence so far: Michael Smith knows her from the aforementioned coffee mornings (Sponge finger? Don't mind if I do!); Violet has a thing for words and Miss Coren hosted Balderdash and Piffle for BBC2; finally Violet is known to pokerise and begamblerate and Victoria Coren writes an occasional how-to guide on poker in the G2 section of the Guardian (sometimes replaced by chess, and other bits and bobs). That's my grand thesis. She also use to review porn, (not in a throbbing way, more like a theatre critic, see Once more with feeling ISBN:1841154377) so watch out for Violet developing new interests.


But this has nothing to do with Durer...the symbolism of a 4x4 magic square in the original painting is to do with the four humours and good old alchemy (back in the days when peer review was carried out in armour with swords).
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maniacfive
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Four Humours... what a blast from the past. Its involvement somehow keys with the picture of the guy and the arm though. I'm liking it!

When I saw the picture I was reminded of the famous da vinci drawing of the man indicating proportion, virtruvivian man? Something about the combination of Man, and what is clearly something man made
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batesman
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Some of the other words in the image:

Leder (Leather)
Gummi (Rubber)
Messing (Brass)

can't make out any of the others, but heaven knows what this could be...looks like part of a Motor or driveshaft or something. And probably it's a number of elements overlapping (notice the upside-down writing on the bottom). Intriguing though!

And the background certainly reminds me of something I've seen, but I was thinking Mekong river, so probably a bit off track Smile

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I thought I looked like a top-down plan of something. With a pic of a lake in the back ground , something like a lock or erly form of hydroeletric plant (if thay had them? might of used steam) Confused
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Guin
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Have a feeling this is an old Sluice gate (yay I can spell it!)

Have wondered about the Elbe and Ruir dams - the technical drawing is german and the building looks German - but nothing conclusive.

Its mocking me I tell you.

EDIT - possibly bavarian
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batesman
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Funny, I was thinking Neuschwanstein for a split second and then went right back to Laos...I don't think it's the Forggensee (where Neuschwanstein is situated, but perched atop a hill, so def not the right structure) but the area certainly looks similar!

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batesman
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Ok, so it probably is Forggensee...check http://www.all-in.de/pdf/af0408_46-60.pdf and search for Kiessling...a boy named Felix Kiessling born in Rieden am Forggensee on 16th May 2004. Coincidence? Unlikely. Means something in connection with the puzzle itself? Probably not Sad

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vodkasim
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098 location

Hi guys,

Regarding the location of the hills/water in the background of card 098...

I'm currently on a round the world-climbing trip and in January was climbing in China. When I saw card 098, the first thing I recognised was the landscape in the background - it looks identical to the area in which we were climbing. The area is along the Li River, between the town of Guillin and the village of Yangshuo, in the province of Guangxi, China.

It's a very famous landscape, noted for its karst rock formations in the limestone rock, and gets lots of Chinese tourists as well as some foreigners. Google 'yangshuo' and you'll see what I mean.

It also fits in with the Chinese theme of the puzzle.

Hope this helps,
Simon

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HumanChimp
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not sure if this has anything to do with it but the square seems identical to the one in Albrecht Dürer's 1514 engraving Melencolia.

(http://plus.maths.org/issue38/features/aiden/index.html) scroll about 1/2 way down.

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mac_monkey
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I dont know if its been mentioned, trout me if it has but has anyone noticed that the name of this card is in white, whereas all the other cards *I* have seen have black titles...


Probably meaningless though
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Not the only one, see black card 197 Linguini Junction, but I still reckon it's a banana. (good for you, what with being a monkey and all)
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mac_monkey
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Aaaah im good at spotting the bananas!

B is for bananas!
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DJ CherryPie
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An Easy Awnser for #098

I got lucky on this one. I'm more of the Sudoku kind of girl so I though I'd do a search on solving methods since math is not my friend. First site I went to...

http://www.magic-squares.de/magic.html

The upper left corner came in handy...

Fastest solved green I ever had.

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