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Re: agreed

[Mokey Fraggle]

My vote goes to the page being false.

-- Miranda is simply not to be trusted. She's far too sugary-sweet, and Violet's in no position (clearly being in love with Kurt) to point that out, lest she look pathetically jealous. And the fact that the one person we can turn to to get her hands on the page before Violet reads it is someone we've been looking at sideways for a while -- with IC's suspicious death in mind -- is far too questionable.

-- Exactly, Josiah. We've always been under the impression IC was killed because he was getting too close to something. The only thing we knew of that was potentially sensitive was the diary. Also, we wrote a damn book so we could read that thing. Are they really going to tell us it was completely useless afterall?

-- I agree with the people who say the page seems out of character with the other pages. I'm going to go back and read those previous ones now to see if I can pinpoint anything specifically different about the phrasing that would suggest a different author. Does anyone here do that sort of thing well?

-- Perhaps your email to Violet will show us something, Josiah. I think that's a good plan.

-- Violet herself said it was odd the page was released. That tells me
we should find it odd, too.

[cassandra]

I find it scarier that Miranda "let" Violet "peek in" at the book. Has she moved into his office already? If MK becomes Head Librarian, Violet ought to buy her own supply of Neurocept

I emailed Anna asking what Cymbalisty had written in his "chicken-scratch" about Violet and the diary specifically.

Also, I don't see why this necessarily *has* to be a false page, at least concerning most of the content. I find it intriguing that Edwina Mountling allegedly became pregnant 9 months before the event that defined year AC/BC. Also, I'm wondering if the lord of Viendenbourg is the father, and whther his name is Castille at all (could be V. Castellan, someone entirely different, etc.) Edwina may have gone along on the trip specifically to conceive a child, in fact. Fast-forward to last year, and exactly at the same season, Joya mysteriously became pregnant, won't reveal the father, and ran away from her sudden wedding into hiding; all while a mysterious faction is trying to replicate the events (or at least access the power that led to) that occurred 269 years ago. (Joya! avoid Ryan Cahill! Avoid!)

but then, I love spec, and the page certainly could have been altered or tampered with, rendering the above even more nonsense

[echidna]

[jetsam]

[lhall]

I do think it's a bit strange for the last entry, but based on the rest of the diary's story, it's exactly what I was expecting to happen.

Further, Violet had been working closely with Isaac throughout the entire translation, no? Don't you think she'd notice if something was different about this one remaining page? The paper quality, the style of the writing, the handwriting itself, the ink color, unusual translations (as if someone modern had been writing them), etc.?

Violet is sensible. She may secretly hate Miranda because she's in love with Kurt but doesn't know it yet, but she wouldn't say multiple times that she's helpful and sweet if she didn't mean it -- she's naturally sarcastic, and a little suspicious of dubious characters. She's used to watching peoples' poker faces for the slightest traces of emotion. And she's good at her job. I get the feeling that if something was even slightly off about the page, she would have noticed and let us know.

[w0lfwoman]

date of pregnancy

[European Chris]

Firstly, Nice cat.

Reading other pages in the diary it wouldn't be a shock if Granier had been 'intimate' (in numerous debauched positions) with a variety of chambermaids-however in early diary entries it seemed as though Edwina was a bit cold towards him.

It seems he got it up her on the 15th first, there was a 'secret' on the 21st, so maybe that was a concern rather than a certainty, and was told on the 29th. Doesn't seem out the ordinary. But I've never missed a period so what do I know.

[duckiemonster]

I think she'd *just* be late, if indeed the 15th was the first time that he 'got it up her' (gah, Chris... You're upsetting my feminine sensibilities. Again.)

I reckon the cube told her

[echidna]

I read it that she first slept with Granier on the 15th, strongly suspected she was pregnant by the 21st and was sure by the 29th. Following Cassandra's spec:

[cassandra]

what I was pondering: that to harness the full power of the mined Cube-material, they would need to link it somehow to a sentient, willing creature (perhaps "bred" for the purpose).

I didn't think that Granier was necessarily the father, though: the scenario I was envisioning involved conception on the night of the Builder's Celebration, 21 March (good time for beginnings and foundations and all that); then on April 2 we see Edwina acts "peevish and irritable, and appears tired. Today, when I made to fetch her for dinner, she barked that "unlike you, I am not constantly concerned with the needs of my stomach and the desires of my...." [here she used a low word which startled me considerably]. When I expressed my astonishment at being spoken to in this fashion, she began to cry. Women are a constant mystery."; around the 8th-15th she sleeps with Granier; April 21 she suspects pregnancy (one month after possible conception); and by 29 April she's sure of it.

All this assumes that the page is unaltered and not metaphorical: that she was pregnant and that it wasn't a story to get rid of Granier or to cover up a different problem or research.

PS. Edwina Mountling > Fran Mendling? Heh It amuses me.

[Magellan Lin]

It seems clear that the place where Grannier and Edwina were working is Veindenbourg.
It makes sense that Sente knows of/is in charge of the drilling. The original project was run by Master Adamek and it is likely the knowledge of what is being mined in Viendenbourg was passed from Master to Master.
It appears what ever was mined was destructive hence the tests and it seems logical that this destructive power - whatever it was, ended the war.

The question is - where does the Cube fit in. Was the cube the weapon itself -made from the mined material or is it a defence.
If its a weapon it makes little sense for Sente and the authorities to keep mining, all their enemies are gone - those that are left are subversive groups- weapons of mass destruction do nt work on these. Perhaps there is a new threat we dont know about.

If it isnt a weapon perhaps it was a defence - something that protected the city from the 'enemy' or from the device they used against the others in the war.

These two open two other reasons for the cube to be stolen.

If a weapon it could have been stolen not to use but to stop it being used - by sending it to earth . On Earth the weapon is safe from anyone there who wants to use it and makes no sense if the 'enemy' wanted to use it. even if it is just a religous artifact why send it to earth - it would be no where near the worhsippers.

If its a defence against a weapon or somekind of protection then whoever took it did so to render the city helpless.
This could be why the Academy is mining more 'stuff' to make a new one to replace what was stolen.

Just a few of my thoughts...