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dvw
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 		kmduke said
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As I said I lost all interest and was curious if this was felt by any others? I'm at a lost to explain it, perhaps big business but Microsoft is a pretty big fish. Perhaps because its for a car and I live without one by choice, but then I live without an Xbox and yet am still intrigued by ILB. Not sure why but for some reason to me knowing GM was behind this killed it for me, did it affect any of you?


I am so new at this that I had never heard of an ARG before WIBS came along.

My head knew that WIBS was a game but my heart didn't. I was/am hooked. When GM came into the picture I was disappointed because it re-enforced the fact that it was just a game. But I am sticking around waiting to see what happens next, hoping for one more puzzle.

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addlepated
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 		kmduke said
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As I said I lost all interest and was curious if this was felt by any others? I'm at a lost to explain it, perhaps big business but Microsoft is a pretty big fish. Perhaps because its for a car and I live without one by choice, but then I live without an Xbox and yet am still intrigued by ILB. Not sure why but for some reason to me knowing GM was behind this killed it for me, did it affect any of you?

No, but then again I own a GM vehicle (as well as a Pious Razz) and I don't have a problem with the company itself. I appreciate the free entertainment and the game itself has given me something to pass the time with.

However, if I'd found out that a company that I disliked had been sponsoring a game I'd been playing, it would probably turn me off of the game. Can you imagine the uproar if people had been playing a great game for 2 months and found out that the KKK had been the stealth sponsor?
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 		I think the reason why it's a turn-off, is because the product promoted relies on being convinced of a political idea (that fossil fuels are running out). B Stove sounded pretty crazy and intelligent, which makes it hard to believe he'll eventually end the quest with a rational/simplified manifest for GM fuel.

In other words, credibility has gone down the drain. The Beast was very much in sync with A.I., which is why it was an excellent game, and this one, frankly, isn't.


Still though: great humor on the forums. I enjoyed.
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Walt Dixie wrote:
I think the reason why it's a turn-off, is because the product promoted relies on being convinced of a political idea (that fossil fuels are running out).


there is an infinite supply of fossil fuels? how is that political?

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sneaky p wrote:
Walt Dixie wrote:
I think the reason why it's a turn-off, is because the product promoted relies on being convinced of a political idea (that fossil fuels are running out).


there is an infinite supply of fossil fuels? how is that political?


I think he is referring to the whole "Pollution=greenhouse effect, and the fact that Fossile fuels do not have an infinite supply - even now the grade of oil being pumped out of the ground is a lesser quality than the stuff they were pumping 30 years ago. Lesser quality=more energy to refine into gas=morepollution=... you get the picture. I don't know about other counrties, but in the USA there is a lot of discussion going on about finding ways to run cars off of alternative energy. SInce the US public is not really buying the full "electric car" (face it they had no pick up and did not do well at highway speeds over a long distance) they migh embrace one that was a "hybrid" that could run on gass when necessary, and other stuff when not.

GM's efforts in hybrid cars is the "Flexifuel" vehicle that can run off of regular gasoline or an Alternative fuel that is labled "E85. Given that some states, such as California, have laws that regulate the amount of polution in the cars that are currently sold in California in a decades old effort to combat smog, finding ways to reduce the emmissions of noxious checmicals and particulate matter from vehicles is becoming more of an issue.

Does it have to affect your enjoyment of the game, only if you let it. I'm afraid to say, I let the "GUN" promotion during Last Call Poker affect me.
This doesn't seem to affect me so much. Maybe it is because the cars that are being "advertized" are the flexifuel ones, and that the cars can run off of regular gasoline as well as "special" gasoline ( /me remembers what a hassle people had when they bought diesel cars that they had to find special pumps for and were Out of Luck if they forgot to fill up in time).

Think of it like the sermon given at a soup kitchen. You don't want to listen to the sermon, don't come in and eat the soup.

I guess it just depends on how hungy you are. Very Happy
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 		Thanks for answering my questions, MageSteff. Very Happy

The whole GM thing took some of the edge off the game for me as well. Ethyl Alcohol should have been the fuel of choice for automobiles from the start. It almost was, until GM and Standard Oil entered into a partnership. They lobbied Congress for major tax increases on alcohol and they got them. Gasoline became (artificially) a more cost effective choice from which to make fuel. So now GM is going to save the world from a problem that they created by implementing a solution that they had 80 years ago and artificially surpressed? Bet you don't see that on LiveGreen/GoYellow. Very Happy

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* johnny5 's random thoughts follow:

I'm sure there are other reasons. Maybe someone from GMD can expound.


I think those are great topics for the post-game chat and I've been enjoying this thread. Some interesting meta topics that will fun to rap about.


Brian

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