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Quirky Acuity - April 6 - Wave 3 Cards
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isca
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Evil Genius wrote:

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This game is getting ridiculously expensive. I'll play the next wave (in for a penny, in for a thousand pounds) but Season Two? I don't know about that.


I too am surprised at the cost of the game. From what was a pleasurable, disconnected beginning has evolved an immersive monster of seemingly giant proportions. I expect MC will use the puzzle card kitty towards staging more live events, creating and maintaining more websites and hopefully, imagineering better puzzle cards for season 2.

Have you tried PxC trading, swap meets or bulk buying on ebay to reduce costs?

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EvilGenius wrote:
This game is getting ridiculously expensive.


Don't buy the cards then. You can still play the game.
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poozle
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eeeqz wrote:
You could try http://www.jaffasworld.com, I've bought quite a few singles from there they have super fast delivery, plus I believe they have a sale on wave 3 silvers at the minute, 40% off I think.

Hope that helps!


The trouble is even with 40% off its £9 a silver, which is too much for me, I'd personnaly rather 4 packs of cards than 1 silver, more fun to open Razz

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Juxta
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EvilGenius wrote:
Hmmm - I bought 32 packs of pure wave three cards recently and got 5 silvers and two or three blacks. Considering there are so many silver and black cards in this wave I didn't think that a great ratio. I make it 2.6% silvers. . . This game is getting ridiculously expensive. I'll play the next wave (in for a penny, in for a thousand pounds) but Season Two? I don't know about that.


As Chris said, don't buy the cards then - I haven't seen anyone from Mind Candy holding a gun to anyone's head...much in the same way that nobody makes me go to the pub and spend money on purchasing alcohol, I'm not forced to buy tickets to see movies/sports teams/theatre and I'm not legally obliged to fork over my cash for the latest computer game/console/shiny thing. What you do with your disposable income is your own choice.

As far as the card ratios go, they seem fine - there is an obvious element of randomisation (for the reasoning behind this, see the necessary marketing strategy for just about any game/pastime involving cards or their ilk) The initial release of Wave 1 had a few oddities in terms of the card spread, but it seems that those kinks have been ironed out. As with all random pursuits, some people are lucky, others are unlucky.

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Gee, how stroppy. All I said was it's expensive. Sheeesh! As it turns out I like buying the cards. But I know for a fact that the expense prohibits some folks from playing. I know because I "sponsor" a number of people with my duplicates. And several people I have traded with have stopped playing since they can't afford it any more. Playing without the cards is just not the same. That being said, have you looked at PXC trades this wave? During the previous ones there were lots of silvers and blacks for trades. This wave there are hardly any silvers for trade. There are only three Primer and four Eternally Grateful, for instance, and the folks who have them need nothing. Clearly there has been a shift in the game. All the spares turn up on eBay so people can recoup a portion of the expense. I really enjoyed trading cards last wave; this wave I have made perhaps two trades for lack of others with cards to trade with. I imagine this is less a problem in areas where there are lots of player and swap meets. Those of us playing overseas don't have such luxury. I would doubt there are many people who have spent more money than I have to get cards, about $800 CND, and I still don't have them all.

isca wrote:
Have you tried PxC trading, swap meets or bulk buying on ebay to reduce costs?
Indeed. I bought 32 packs just recently from Firebox (192 cards), got six I needed, gave the duplicates away to needy players from all over. There is no such a thing as a swap meet here as there are exactly four people playing in my area. As for trading, there is nothing available so I have, reluctantly, turned to eBay. I miss the trading part - met some great folks that way - but there doesn't seem to be enough to go around this wave, trading-wise, and I blame that on the cost of playing.
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Evil, I've traded with H4T (for Mother Tongue) when her profile didn't list any cards needed in trade. I think after a player has every card, they may still be willing to trade their extras in the interest of maintaining trading power, or obtaining a wider variety of cards that they can trade with for when the next wave is released. As long as you have silvers to trade, I think it's still worth asking those with the silvers that you need if they'd like to trade even if they already have the cards you are offering.

I can see how the problem might then become trading a less available (read Wave 3) silver for a more widely available one, though.

I recently resorted to eBay for Shuffled. I scoffed at the idea of purchasing cards from eBay before simply because prices seemed too high and shipping to North America drove them up even further. I managed to find some sellers in the US though, and grabbed Shuffled for about $18, less than it would've cost me to buy another 4 packs. Canada's probably a whole 'nother story though.

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EvilGenius
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miamo_tutti wrote:
Evil, I've traded with H4T (for Mother Tongue) when her profile didn't list any cards needed in trade. I think after a player has every card, they may still be willing to trade their extras in the interest of maintaining trading power, or obtaining a wider variety of cards that they can trade with for when the next wave is released. As long as you have silvers to trade, I think it's still worth asking those with the silvers that you need if they'd like to trade even if they already have the cards you are offering.

I can see how the problem might then become trading a less available (read Wave 3) silver for a more widely available one, though.

I recently resorted to eBay for Shuffled. I scoffed at the idea of purchasing cards from eBay before simply because prices seemed too high and shipping to North America drove them up even further. I managed to find some sellers in the US though, and grabbed Shuffled for about $18, less than it would've cost me to buy another 4 packs. Canada's probably a whole 'nother story though.


Hmmmm - never considered approaching players to trade when then didn't need anything. Rather thought that might be nuisance.

eBay is fine, but lamentable. I really enjoy the trading and the comeraderie that comes with it. That's part of the reason I have given away about 400 cards, 200 this past week alone. It keeps people connected. eBay is just a store; PXCtrades is a community. I still have hundred of cards to get rid of . . .
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EvilGenius wrote:


Hmmmm - never considered approaching players to trade when then didn't need anything. Rather thought that might be nuisance.


I thought the same, but then I thought why keep your profile active if you aren't going to be trading?

I emailed the person who maintains the trading site suggesting a feature that would allow traders to add specifics on how/what they're willing to trade. I think many players immediately pass up trading with someone who doesn't list any cards as needed when in fact they might be able to secure many cards from them. Hell, H4T got me 8 cards that I needed in our trade. She traded me for cards that she didn't already have extras of, so what she gained from the deal was a wider selection of cards to trade.

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Juxta
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EvilGenius wrote:
Gee, how stroppy. All I said was it's expensive. Sheeesh!


Stroppy? Hardly, it was merely a statement of (what I felt were reasonably obvious) facts. To call that stroppy would be like me saying that your post was whiny and pointless...oh...wait...

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Juxta wrote:
EvilGenius wrote:
Gee, how stroppy. All I said was it's expensive. Sheeesh!


Stroppy? Hardly, it was merely a statement of (what I felt were reasonably obvious) facts. To call that stroppy would be like me saying that your post was whiny and pointless...oh...wait...

Rolling Eyes

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But it was whiny and pointless. Not every post is "War and Peace" . . . Wink
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European Chris wrote:
EvilGenius wrote:
This game is getting ridiculously expensive.


Don't buy the cards then. You can still play the game.


I agree with you both in part, it is expensive to play this game if you want to get all the cards, but all of them are freely available on UF if you don't want to pay a bean.

What I would say though is that this game has been amazing in the way it keeps coming at you. There are very few lapses in which nothing happens (currently in one now of course!) and I thought that mine sequence was fantastic, state of the art and compelling and superbly thought out. If you want that kind of quality (on a weekend!) then someone's got to pay for it (MC don't do this for fun), and the cards are a great way of getting that funding.

But, the beauty is that it's still a choice, pay or not, it's your decision. Those of you that don't pay though should not have a go at those of us that do because I think our wanton profligacy helps MC to make the game better for everyone, and the best ARG ever? Jeez, apparently there were choppers at the last event, before I joined - who paid for that? Let's all be happy with our choices and not rail at anyone else's, it's a game for everyone to enjoy in their own way?

Just a thought?
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HI bad - ditto.
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Silvers are meant to be rare. In every card collecting game there are silvers (or foils, holos etc..) and these invariably cost more in order to get the whole set.

Also MC have cleverly set up the leaderboard system for the more competitive amongst us to find more silvers than we maybe want too - call it peer pressure - even the video competition has had its share of peer pressure between groups judging by the comments left!

Time is also an expensive part of the game and giving this up to play the game is one of its drawbacks - more than forking out cash for cards.

But having said that, there is frustrated enjoyment in each card, there is participation in live events and, as I am finding, there is a place to express yourself with others in this ARG monster.

Keep scratching.

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European Chris wrote:
Today I didn't buy a Bentely or hire a chaffeur to drive me to work.


This could be the start of a great series of posts: "Things that Chris didn't do today"
  • Bite his toenails
  • Orbit Saturn
  • Eat turkey

The last one's risky, but I'm right aren't I?
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