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[hex set] #202 - Mother Tongue
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opsis
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Sorry, grendelrob, Embarassed how did I miss that one?

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:31 pm
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badbarry
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opsis wrote:
Anagrams are proving difficult because of the J or Js and K.


I'm not convinced that J's and K's are a particular blocker to the anagram theory. Firstly, Von's clue about going native could mean that we are looking at the countries' name in their own language, which echidna kindly posted weeks ago and which gets rid of all the J's and the K.

Secondly, even if we were using J's and K's you can still anagram something reasonable from them. I got almost, though not quite of course, to "language jesus spoke in jerusalem" from them
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(and aramaic is not the answer).

Thirdly, there have been over 1,000 guesses on this - we must have tried every language/country in the book - I'm sure silvers have fallen in fewer guesses to random answers. However, if the actual anagrammed question was something like "most languages learnt by one man" (another near anagram I got to on the native names), how many people have tried 37 - or whatever the answer is? Probably none as we've all been trying languages.

Anyway, that's my lot. If previous posts have been anything to go by, head totally in the opposite direction to my thoughts because that is usually where the answer lies!
Cheers all etc

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:15 pm
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sirichj
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I know this might sound stupid but has anyone tried
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adder


Going back to basics and trying a different approach from the language theme, Vons clue : Go native

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The adder is the only snake native to the UK and many countries and the only snake available to survive in many places across the globe


And secondly mother tongue :

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I am a huge Blackadder fan, maybe this is a reference to a chapter in Blackadder where Samuel Johnson says , 'There is no hero unless it is our mother tongue'.


Worth a shot by someone I guess?

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manleym
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I can confirm that the answer is

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not Adder or Blackadder


Liked the thinking
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sirichj
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Thanks for trying back to the drawing board again for the fiftieth time lol

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macro
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Another idea, which has got me nowhere (yet) - has any one person visited all of these countries ?

I wondered about pope john paul, who famously kissed the tarmac wherever he landed, and tried his 'mother tounge' (he may not have visited them all, but a fair few seem to crop up in his travel list)

second odd idea for the day, I was looking at the card upside down, and if you take the two bits of america as eyes, it looks a bit like a snakes head, with a long forked tounge hanging down (russia)

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Lilian
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looks like sum 1 bein sick 2 me Exclamation
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kniteli
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i also thought about people who may have visited all these countries and looked into old explorers(ala magellan and friends) ran into the same problem we always run into with this card, there are an unmanagable number of possibilities, but I could also find noone who fit having gone to each of these.

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EvilGenius
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Has anyone tried "Adamic" yet? This was the supposed first language according to the bible. Or 'philosophy". Or "Edenic". Or "lapsarian". Or "Volapük". Or "Characteristica universalis". No card for me yet . . .
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Sorry EvilGenius but philosophy,lapsarian and Adamic are not the answer. Keep on pitching though.

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:18 pm
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Marcus Interuptus
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Wood for the Trees ?

chimera245 wrote:
I am inclinde to feel that this is either:
a) an anagram; or
b) ... (the countries) actually have nothing to do with the answer


Gday - I'm a lurker without cards so treat suggestions accordingly...
I'm more inclined to think that this may be a "wood for the trees" situation.
Someone said earlier that this is a Peters projection map - its not, but that started me thinking. Is the overall design significant and could it be the mother tongue of an identified individual that is the answer?

B.T.W. The map projection is actually Robinson who was born in Canada to American parents. He designed this projection style under contract to Rand-McNally who have since dumped it for Winkel-Tripel projection. If the projection had been Peters I would have suggested German as a possible answer but I'd be surprised if all the modern languages hadn't been tried already.

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chimera245
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Morning Marcus.

You are probably right about the wood for the trees thing - though I'm still trawling my way through treaties looking for common links.

As I hadn't tried todays guesses I ran Arthur H Robinson, French and German through - all were rejected.

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Significant Background?

As an alternative line of thinking...
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On my lo-res image of the card the bg could be an avalanche.
avalanche = have a clan = scot = celtic


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EvilGenius
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I would have to agree that language may not be the core of this. There is little to distinguish Canada from the US in terms of language, ditto the UK (I mean in terms of history, origins, etc.)

This is also supposed to be Black card, not a silver, so I can't help but think it shouldn't be this hard. We must me on the wrong track. Another anagram would totally suck. What's the right initial for the United Kingdom, U or UK? Ditto the US (or America).

General musing to follow: New Caledonia has no government of its own since it's a territory of France, there is no commonality regarding type of government, religion, language, race. Some are landlocked, some not. I can't think of anything at all that these countries have in common . . .

CIA World Factbook has lots of info about all of these countries but I haven't found anything to link them. I think there is a meta layer to this.

What's up with the background? Why this projection? What does this projection retain and distort? I don't have the card - can I assume that the obvious nonsense about UV, heat, etc have been exhausted? How does the hint about going native relate?

I know, not especially helpful but maybe this will inspire someone Wink

Here's another word to try: "orthophanic". Returning to minerals, try "mine".
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Thought I might add my two cents worth. I'm still of the opionion that all of the countries have something in common, so these are some of my trains of thought:
I remember once hearing someone compare English, American and Australian accents, saying the sound comes from different parts of the mouth (ie. the front, middle and back) but I cant remember which goes with which. So I've been looking into phonetics, accents, etc
rhotacism and rhotic don't work, I got bored with this theory and havn't tried: nasal, gutteral, Glottalic theory, Decem, Dacian, Didactica, diphthongs.

Then I thought about Tulip Mania, so I tried bubble, and economic bubble (because that fits nicely with the background) but no luck.

Next was Land Reclamation (once again with the water background) but that didn't work either, obviously.

This card is *EVIL*

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