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[hex set] #202 - Mother Tongue
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cheesey
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Just a thought from the hint

This suggests to me that the answer is actually in the country's language i.e Espana rather than Spain, or similarily for the language itself. English rather than Anglais.

Maybe the answer is in its native tongue?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:27 am
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cheesey
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Dont have the card unfortunately.

What other countries apart from Hawaii are omitted? Maybe there is a pattern there.

Also is it a modern map, or an old ancient one??
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The map is modern - it has Georgia, for example, on its post 1990 borders.

Hawaii isn't a country - and arguably it is only omitted because it would appear off the card. Incidentally the only land on the card that is not a country is New Caledonia, which is a French dependent territory.
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doublecross
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Incidentally, I thought that a possible ordering for countries might be international dialling codes, given their link with speaking. It doesn't seem to work, but for the record these are:

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USA 1
Russia 7
Egypt 20
Netherlands 31
Spain 34
Austria 43
UK 44
Brazil 55
Japan 81
Korea 82
Mauritania 222
Liberia 231
Chad 235
Equatorial Guinea 240
Angola 244
Somalia 252
Eritrea 291
Ireland 353
Albania 355
Guatemala 502
Ecuador 593
New Caledonia 687
Laos 856
Jordan 962
Oman 968
Israel 972
Georgia 995
Uzbekistan 998

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doublecross
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In the absence of a helpful ordering of countries, the best anagram I can come up with of initials of countries in their own language is

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ONE TONGUE NUMBERLESS LANGUAGES

This uses the following choices, only the last of which I have difficulty in justifying!

USA=U, South Korea=N, UK=U, Georgia=G, Egypt=A, Jordan=U, Israel=E


Needless to say it doesn't work.
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The bit of the map with Israel is so hard to distinguish, you could lose the e and have numberless languages on tongue. I'm sure it's not right but I really like your try.
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gopipgo
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What's Von's hint on this card? Can't see it in rest of the threads...

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gopipgo wrote:
What's Von's hint on this card? Can't see it in rest of the threads...


You can find Von's hint here.

Also, just for the record, based on the fact you can get "language numbers most" from the anagram of country first letters I tried:
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Chinese, Mandarin, Chinese Mandarin and Mandarin Chinese


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Despite the fact that there are a ridiculous number of potentially relevant anagrams, my latest line of thought involves the following:

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Baby talk.
From such attempts as "TONAL SOUND LANGUAGE BABIES HEAR" "MAKES SOUND LANGUAGE TO HER BABY" "NONSENSE BABY LANGUAGE MATERIAL" etc etc.
Makes sense to me considering the card title, but GuiN checked out "baby talk" and no luck. I thought I'd throw this angle out for more testing.


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cassandra wrote:
Despite the fact that there are a ridiculous number of potentially relevant anagrams, my latest line of thought involves the following:

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Baby talk.
From such attempts as "TONAL SOUND LANGUAGE BABIES HEAR" "MAKES SOUND LANGUAGE TO HER BABY" "NONSENSE BABY LANGUAGE MATERIAL" etc etc.
Makes sense to me considering the card title, but GuiN checked out "baby talk" and no luck. I thought I'd throw this angle out for more testing.


The official terms for
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baby talk are motherese, parentese and caretaker- or child-directed speech so someone could try those (I don't have the card). Motherese has been mentioned before on this thread (by Ramsfan I think) but I don't know whether anyone actually tried it.

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Snr Weaver
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Tried
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Motherese
no good.

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Any ideas along the lines of Mother Nature or language of nature/the planet?

Tried Plate Techtonics, I know it's no anagram, but a stab in the dark.


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Ashin
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Anyone here old enough to remember the name of that "global language" that people were trying to develop in the 70's? I'm 23, so this was a little before my time.

Tried to do a few internet searches, but didn't see anything relating to what I'm thinking of.

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It was esperanto, and it has been tried as a solve

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Probably way off track, but who speaks *all* languages?
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Santa Claus!

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Guin
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I keep thinking back to Vons hint and it keeps making me think:

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To really understand a country, you have to go native

the answer is a country - and the map components spell it out to us either in the native language or something of that ilk. Except we have a lot of countries lol

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